If you had cancer...

-joe- said:
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RE andrewkar, what treatments were you thinking of exactly?
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I'm all about SCLC but if those below works for it, it hopefully work for others also.
1. LDN The Low Dose Naltrexone Homepage
2. Gerson The Gerson Therapy : Gerson Institute
3. B 17 Laetrile / Vitamin B17 - Alternative Cancer Treatment
4. IV Sodium Ascorbate Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University
5. Salmonella Salmonella Bacteria Turned Into Cancer Fighting Robots -- ScienceDaily (can't find exact study right now, but that gives you some idea for research).
6. MMS Jim Humble and MMS MMS1 MMS2 CDS CDI CDH - JimHumble.org (this one is DANGEROUS!)

The main problem with cancer is not how to kill it, that's very easy (chemo for example). The main problem is how to kill it in a way that will not poison entire body resulting in death. That's why #6 is dangerous. Read about chloride and you will get some more info.

Same with Gerson therapy. It's relatively easy to kill cancer cells, but the problem is all that dead matter rotting inside the body and poisoning organism. elimination of waste is the problem. Also, once cancer is in there, it's a part of us. It's a living "organ" that can't be nuked just like that...

Media make us to believe it's all easy. It's not :)
 


microphone head said:
I'd be sensible about it and seek out the relevant treatment. If / When the cancer metastesized and spread to everywhere else and I had basically a set amount of time left I'd say fuck it and make sure I did everything that I wanted to do before I part the world.

I would certainly not be going down the 'alternative treatment' route.

(source: My best friend and brother is dying from cancer that has done just this.)
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Thorn said:
The right answer is always - go to hospital as fast as possible and hope your cancer is one of them which can be today cured with a higher chance.

There was never ever an alternative cure. Never. They all died like flies in the past.
That people try them is only because some of the way to fight the cancer are extrem and heavy.
But they give you a chance. If you really like to try something alternative - go in a church and pray.
Thats the best alternative.

Some cancers which was letal not 10 years ago are today pretty good to heal.
For all cancers the key is to fight them as early as possible.

If your black skin cancer already spread you are with a high chance dead and its a horrible way to die.
Thats how my father died. In his last weeks you was able to see the cancer grow out of of the operation cuts
where they removed them days ago.
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^^ this.

andrewkar, you have no idea what you're talking about. Close friends/relatives dying from cancer is no joke. Wouldn't wish it on anyone - not even a massive cunt like yourself.
 
infoslob said:
...And andrewkar, this: ""Even if I knew A is 100% effective, knowing myself I would not go that way because no motherfucker will make a living of my pain (that kind of pain)."" is nonsense. Having this disease is far more serious than having a social stance. I've witnessed this firsthand.
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Yep.. you are right mate. But... I have witnessed this firsthand also, on my father. My point is, it's all for money. Chemo etc. if it prolongs life of some of us, that is fucking great. But, I know it's not designed to CURE. It's designed to make $$$ :) So in that case, at this point I can tell those fuckers big - FUCK YOU, and you will not get me alive that's for sure.
 
Damn I hate this alternative medicine crowd. Their "research" is total and utter bullshit. They wouldn't know research if it come up and stuck its dick in their ear.

Did their "research" involve double-blind studies? Peer reviews? Even trial and error?

I bet none of the above.

I can lay my money on visiting spurious websites online such as Natural News which contains a load of horse shit "research" too. It's nothing other than a big uneducated circle-jerk of people who quote other people who quote other people who don't do any proper scientific research either. Claims are made around anecdotal evidence (which is no evidence at all) and there is so little understanding of the scientific process that it makes your nose bleed just reading that drivel.

Great quote - "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own fact"
 
absolute said:
^^ this.

andrewkar, you have no idea what you're talking about. Close friends/relatives dying from cancer is no joke. Wouldn't wish it on anyone - not even a massive cunt like yourself.
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You get me wrong.
I got now one very close relative with cancer. And I as one who is perceived by others as knowledgeable enough to make any calls, I had to make those calls (against mainstream medicine, in soo fucked up situation...).
I actually took the responsibility for a person's life. My against mainstream. It's not easy but numbers are on my side.

But, I know few things, plus that person trusts me.
Right now is ok, he is making business. Still have cancer but it doesn't make any difference to us as long as we keep cancer at bay.
 
nickster said:
Damn I hate this alternative medicine crowd. Their "research" is total and utter bullshit. They wouldn't know research if it come up and stuck its dick in their ear.

Did their "research" involve double-blind studies? Peer reviews? Even trial and error?
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How it could?!

Are your genes broken a bit? You hate "alternative medicine crowd"? Why?

Maybe because it makes your brain to go out there and work in an unfriendly environment?

Or... maybe you are one who is paid by pharma? (maybe your girlfriend. So you need to step out in case of HEAT...).

Can you tell me about 4 major types of evidence?
 
Why do you need the 4 major types of evidence?

- Anecdotal
- Analogical
- Testimonial
- Statistical

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andrewkar said:
You get me wrong.
I got now one very close relative with cancer. And I as one who is perceived by others as knowledgeable enough to make any calls, I had to make those calls (against mainstream medicine, in soo fucked up situation...).
I actually took the responsibility for a person's life. My against mainstream. It's not easy but numbers are on my side.

But, I know few things, plus that person trusts me.
Right now is ok, he is making business. Still have cancer but it doesn't make any difference to us as long as we keep cancer at bay.
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Wow. I feel bad for your relative. Guessing your not an oncologist..
 
andrewkar said:
You get me wrong.
I got now one very close relative with cancer. And I as one who is perceived by others as knowledgeable enough to make any calls, I had to make those calls (against mainstream medicine, in soo fucked up situation...).
I actually took the responsibility for a person's life. My against mainstream. It's not easy but numbers are on my side.

But, I know few things, plus that person trusts me.
Right now is ok, he is making business. Still have cancer but it doesn't make any difference to us as long as we keep cancer at bay.
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So what protocol are you recommending your relative?
 
Andrew.. I think you got me tagged on the wrong side of the issue.

I am one of the biggest proponents for science and medicine you will find.
And what about "not being right?"

This is not a guessing game, dipshit.

Please, send your relative to a real doctor before you kill him.

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andrewkar said:
I got now one very close relative with cancer. And I as one who is perceived by others as knowledgeable enough to make any calls, I had to make those calls (against mainstream medicine, in soo fucked up situation...).
I actually took the responsibility for a person's life. My against mainstream. It's not easy but numbers are on my side.
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When he dies its on your head you nutcase.

Alternative Medicine is a very dangerous term as its not medicine at all its just shit that hasn't been proven by any scientific standard to work. The stuff that has been proven is called Medicine.
 
emp said:
Andrew.. I think you got me tagged on the wrong side of the issue.

I am one of the biggest proponents for science and medicine you will find.
And what about "not being right?"

This is not a guessing game, dipshit.

Please, send your relative to a real doctor before you kill him.

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I'm not tagging.
I care only about SCIENCE, for sure not medicine in a way we know it these days. What's called medicine these days, to me is a bunch of drug dealers and lazy fuckers (expect surgeons and first aid guys and gals).

I would appropriate if anyone interested just do what OP asked them to do, and keep his/her OPINIONS for thanks giving party. That's all.
 
nickster said:
When he dies its on your head you nutcase.

Alternative Medicine is a very dangerous term as its not medicine at all its just shit that hasn't been proven by any scientific standard to work. The stuff that has been proven is called Medicine.
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Ok, I will get back with some stuff that will open your eyes hopefully.

When he dies its on your head you nutcase.
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Click links I have posted above, then read it all (plus stuff from links it's pointing to) and then come back for talk, please.
 
OK.. so you can give your dipshit opinion, but no one else can?

OK.. sure

Anyhow..

Science does nt work like that.

Medicine is not a bunch of people who decide "We'll ONLY research these things and everything else (alternative solutions, novel approaches) gets ignored."

That is not how science works.

There is people researching Acupunture and herbal remedies, there have been thesises (? English is not my first language) written on homeopathy and if it works (it doesn't).

There is people looking into smells and their effect on pain perception, there are some hospitals that allow dogs to visit patients to see if it staves off depression...

ALL of this is in the science of medicine.

So any remedy you think is being killed by big pharma because $$$ ....
Probably isn't.

More likely, it just does not work.

I have lost friends and relatives to this disease and a friend of my father has just been diagnosed with it as well.

That said, I am sadly aware that we have not found a cure for cancer (yet).
But big pharma / evil doctors conspiracy is not the reason.

Sorry.

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emp you are killing me now... I can't make my mind around this. But I will be back
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgPePk3kGZk"]Terminator-I'll be back - YouTube[/ame]
 
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