Importing Large Goods from China

-joe- said:
Is that insurance obligation still there for if they're 100% used off road?
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There is not, at least here, for anything not road legal. You do have to license them though, but I'm not sure if you have to license offroad under 50cc. The under 50cc category is really weird.


BlueYonder said:
I dunno, I'm not an insurance expert in any way. You probably need it as a requirement for ownership. My car sits in the driveway most of the time, but I still have to insure it to drive it.

I also wonder how people who live in city apartments would store their ATV. Will they have to buy a parking space for it, and would there be a place to drive it?
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That's a good point, but I think only my sisters kids wouldn't have a place to ride them, and she lives close to my parents so they'd probably keep them there. Everyone with kids resides in the country; Idaho, Wyoming, and backwoods Tennessee. :D I come from hillfolk, lol.

I may not have given this enough consideration.
 


SkyFire said:
Does any one here have any experience importing good from China?
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Below is an email from a supplier we used. The process is pretty stressful imo. You have to fill out all kinds of customs forms, have a customs agent, pay boat fees ....

Our imports are big in volume but not weight, so we ended up going with air shipping for this particular order.

Hope it helps.



OUR RATE as below ::

- PRL Handling Charge : $75.00


CUSTOMS:
- ISF(Import Secuity Filing) Charge : $50.00 per filing

- ISF Single Bond Charge : $100.00 ( if you do not have annual bond)

- Customs Clearance Charge $125.00

- Customs Clearance Single Bond Fee: $ 65.00, or $6/1000 x FOB Value( Commercial VALUE + Duty ) ( if you do not have annual bond)

- Duty : XXXXXXXXX : DUTY 3% OF COMMERCIAL INVOICE VALUE

- MPF (Merchandise Processing Fee) : 0.3464% from Commercial Invoice Value/FOB, Minimum $25.

- HMP (Harbor Maintenance Fee): 0.125% from Commercial Invoice Value.

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- IF, X-Ray Exam Charge : $5.00~10.00/CBM (depends on terminals, also total CBM of that particular container)


CARRIER/ TERMINAL/ CFS:
- DDC Charge(Ocean Fright charge at the destination): TBA from steam-ship line (ABT $28.10~$31.00/CBM)

- Chassis Fee : $3.50 per CBM

- CFS WAREHOUSE CHARGE: AT COST

- DRAYAGE ( TRUCKING) : I need to confirm it with China regarding final warehouse ( pick up location ) info.





- IF needed, Messenger/ Courier Fee: $50.00

- IF needed, Wire Transfer Fee: $35.00



IF you want us to handle,

First,
we need to file ISF. (in case you don’t know ISF, http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/trade/cargo_security/carriers/security_filing/ this link is broken but what they sent )
U.S Customs requires all import shipment to file ISF within 48hours prior to ETD.(before vessel depart from origin)
in order for us to file ISF, You need to confirm above charges and fill out “Power of Attorney (POA)”
I will send you POA once you reply back.

Second, send us A COPY OF IRS LETTER (presents company name, address, and EIN(TAX ID) number)

Third,
In order for us to clear custom,
all the paper work, such as your POA, B/L, commercial invoice, packing list need to be same information as U.S IRS department.
(Company name and address)
If different, you need to request shipper for revision.

Please check and call us if you have any other question.
Thank you.
 
Good lord, I figured assuming the fees would double the cost of the units would be plenty. Apparently, not.
 
From my experience with Meitian scooters I believe 49cc and under are smog exempt. Some of those engines couldn't power a decent chainsaw.

SkyFire, see if the supplier can recommend a third party shipping company who can avoid all that red tape. There are always ways around bureaucratic bullshit as long as you're not importing too many of the things. I believe they may be able to set it as a retail, rather than a wholesale purchase.
 
Im not sure how much it would cost. From our experience with air shipping they usually invoice way under what the item is actually worth, not sure if it works the same way with sea shipping.

I would definatly look into a "forwarding service" - I know that you can find someone that will handle all of the leg work with customs and then truck everything to your door. What that costs is something that I never looked into.
 
i think if it's 500$ in the US you not going to be in such a different league with the current prices you received after customs.
BUT bro, how old are the kids, not sure I read it right? Mean 250cc they fly off of em, seriously.
3 to 9 years old?
that is seriously unsafe.
 
sorry my edit time ran out, saw that you're actually checking out 49cc
but my thought is still the same.
i don't want to ruin the party and you'd be my favorite uncle forever.
Yet putting this much torque under a 9 year old sounds still unsafe to me.
If its gifts, if you're there, it's fine, oversight and stuff.
But if not and unless everyone at this party (the parents) are rich, I'd suggest something safer.
Because when you're not there, and they take it home, parents leave them by themselves with their new "toys" and something happens like the kid breaks an arm or so you're opening yourself up for law suits especially if you have money and they don't.
People loose all reasonability when u have money and they don't, friends too.
And in this case I don't want to blame the wives but from my own experience it's usually the wife.
 
I've seen the type of 4 wheelers you're talking about at flea markets (Peddler's Malls around KY) and pawn shops for like $250/each. Maybe check around your area and see if you can get the vendor to cut you a deal for like $200/unit if you buy 12?
 
Update:

I ordered one from a state side retailer matching the models I want to import. Should be here in two weeks, and since it was just one it was roughly the same cost as directly importing, and much faster & easier.

Once it gets here I'll know if it's worth ordering a full batch.
 
Am I the only one that thinks it's batshit insane to be buying kids aged 3-9 a 50cc ATV?

How is a 3 year old kind going to safely use an ATV? Heck, a 5 year old kid?

I mean once a kid is 8-10, perhaps there's some feasibility there, but I dunno. I think if I went to a family christmas thing and my cousin/brother or whatever had bought all the kids ATV's I'd feel a bit weird about it.
 
mituozo said:
Am I the only one that thinks it's batshit insane to be buying kids aged 3-9 a 50cc ATV?

How is a 3 year old kind going to safely use an ATV? Heck, a 5 year old kid?

I mean once a kid is 8-10, perhaps there's some feasibility there, but I dunno. I think if I went to a family christmas thing and my cousin/brother or whatever had bought all the kids ATV's I'd feel a bit weird about it.
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Seems like a train wreck in the making. Get them bicycles. Less risk of lifelong injuries.
 
mituozo said:
Am I the only one that thinks it's batshit insane to be buying kids aged 3-9 a 50cc ATV?

How is a 3 year old kind going to safely use an ATV? Heck, a 5 year old kid?

I mean once a kid is 8-10, perhaps there's some feasibility there, but I dunno. I think if I went to a family christmas thing and my cousin/brother or whatever had bought all the kids ATV's I'd feel a bit weird about it.
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galacon said:
You do realize that these fucking kids would be happy with a McDonalds gift card, right?

Who are you trying to impress, here? Wtf.
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charlesmartel said:
Seems like a train wreck in the making. Get them bicycles. Less risk of lifelong injuries.
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1) it's fun to give big gifts, 2) it's cheaper than buying individual gifts for everyone, and 3) ver gifting can be douche-y, sure, but it's also super fun to give people shit they'd never otherwise have.

Damn, you guys are bummers. Out here we start riding atv's at 4/5 years old, that's when I got my boy his. It's not like you let them ride it flatout, a 49cc will do 30mph with a small kid on it. They have limiters, and we set the boy's to 10-ish mph at first. Given the proper helmet and gear we made him wear, it's safer than a bike.

Had to grab this out of a fb video of them since I didn't take pics, but here are my kids their first day out on the boy's quad - http://i.imgur.com/E8bkM9d.png . The girl road it the next day, rolled it, pushed it back over with the boy's help and kept on going. It's good for them.
 
Uh, well, thought better of sharing that but my edit time expired, so I delted it on imgur. Oh well.
 
Well, if this thread has made any point, it's that you may want to ask the parent's permission prior to surprising their 3yo Johnnie with a new ATV.

Or if you go ahead with the plan, can you please record the gift giving part, and post it? I'm more interested in the parent's reaction than anything. I can see it... huge family get together, and all of a sudden a U-Haul pulls up, Uncle SkyFire jumps out, opens the back door, and there's a dozen ATVs in there for the kids. Kids think it's the best thing ever, and the parents are jaw droppingly astonished.
 
The best part is when customs decides your ATVs are some kind of knockoff. They send you a nice letter telling you they decided to keep them (for their nephews and nieces)
 
SkyFire said:
1) it's fun to give big gifts, 2) it's cheaper than buying individual gifts for everyone, and 3) ver gifting can be douche-y, sure, but it's also super fun to give people shit they'd never otherwise have.

Damn, you guys are bummers. Out here we start riding atv's at 4/5 years old, that's when I got my boy his. It's not like you let them ride it flatout, a 49cc will do 30mph with a small kid on it. They have limiters, and we set the boy's to 10-ish mph at first. Given the proper helmet and gear we made him wear, it's safer than a bike.

Had to grab this out of a fb video of them since I didn't take pics, but here are my kids their first day out on the boy's quad - http://i.imgur.com/E8bkM9d.png . The girl road it the next day, rolled it, pushed it back over with the boy's help and kept on going. It's good for them.
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You do know 30mph is plenty to kill a child, right?
 
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