Injured Athletes

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I'm not a football fan or anything, but I read in the paper today how the Buffalo Bills' suffered a tremendous loss as one of their players (forget the position -- it's one of the really gay sounding ones). I saw the clip on SportsCenter the other day, and it really didn't look like he was all that hurt. But apparently he went in for a routine tackle, and his helmet smacked into the guy's shoulder pads, and he became paralyzed from the neck down now.

Hate hearing about shit like this, especially since he's younger than me, at a whole 25 years old, and only in his 3rd NFL season. :(

I wonder if NFL teams have longterm coverage or compensation for these types of injuries. Also, what about the longterm injuries that some of them suffer from when they have too many concussions, or worse, not enough time off from their first one and immediately being rushed back into the game the next week or 2 weeks later. I remember reading some articles on retired NFL players who now have early signs of dementia and alzheimers due to getting put back into the game too early after a pretty serious internal injury.

I know in the NHL they are VERY cautious and serious about it because it happens all too often. But then you get really talented players who have too much of an ego, like Eric Lindros (who just retired). Not to mention Lindros is a moron for not learning from mistakes, because his brother, who may have actually been a better player than he was, never made it to the NHL because he had too many concussions before he could get in. Really sad shit.

I've always wondered though, who's tougher? NFL athletes or NHL athletes?

I'd go with NHL. Those guys are the only ones who take stitches on the bench, and are back out on their next shift by choice. They play with some of the worst and most painful injuries and never bitch and moan. They are the most under-paid sports franchise in North America (most golfers and bowlers make more), and they are by far some of the most talented in the world. In all other sports, you pretty much have to focus on one or two things, but always get by at being great at one. In hockey, if you can't skate like a pro, it doesn't matter how accurate your shot is, or how hard you can hit a guy, you won't make the cut. Skating like a pro is the first and toughest part, and then you have to be great at stopping pucks, hitting guys, skating fast, controlling the puck, etc..
 


NHL athletes are far tougher. Remember that video posted of the goalie getting hit throat slashed? Yeah...good times...

He was gasping for air and acting like ANYONE would have if they had their throat slashed with blood shooting out like that. BAD example, heh.
 
Tragic: Nature of the Game

The poor kids name is Kevin Everett (he's a Tight End btw). The initial prognosis is he'll likely be paralyzed.

I believe the NFL has a good pension program setup for modern day players (there was a problem with how the old time players are compensated) and given the PR I'm sure the NFL will do alot to make sure he's taken care of.

I actually think the NFL players in general are tougher. All the players on the defensive side of the ball have to be pretty tough in order to make it in the NFL. While some of the skill position players on offense (namely wide receivers, kickers and punters) can get away with not being tough, most of them have to be pretty gritty. Imagine being a QB, having 11 very, very big and faster people trying to decapitate you and having to stand tall in the pocket as long as possible for a play to develop. It's like having to defuse a bomb on every snap.

I think there are some badass guys in the NHL. Each team has "enforcers" to protect their star offensive players. But alot of them are finesse players (see Jaromir Jagr) who aren't required to be super tough.

I don't think NHL players are over-paid, the market dictates their salaries and if anything they are overpaid as many teams are on the brink of insolvency. The game itself isn't as TV friendly as Football. Plus they shot themselves in the foot with the holdout recently that only further diminished their fan base. But they can turn it around, the NBA was only a 2nd tier sport 25 years ago. They have some special players like that Crosby kid in Pittsburgh and they could use a similar approach the NBA has done and market around their superstars.
 
I think there are some badass guys in the NHL. Each team has "enforcers" to protect their star offensive players. But alot of them are finesse players (see Jaromir Jagr) who aren't required to be super tough.

Umm bad example... jagrs feet are drilled to the ice most of the time. YouTube - Ruutu bumps off Jagr - smiles

And i bet every finesse player in the nhl has gotten in a fight or 2....well maybe except for Gretzky...and they take their licks ...just like a QB...but they can also give out licks. Iginla, perfect example...that dude gets in a fight like every game and still leads his team in points...and broken hands........

well ...i forgot what i was saying...ahhh ...can ya tell hockey season is coming up
 
My dad played both competitive Hockey and Football, and definitely the shorter life expectancy for players is Football (less than 5 years). Granted, back then, there was even less protection (in hockey for example, there was no helmets required), but the players today in both sports are bigger and fiercer then ever.
 
I'm not sure what clip you saw on sportscenter, but I think for those watching the game you pretty much knew it was serious as soon as it happened. The cameraman zoomed right in on the guy and his entire body was basically dead except his arm that was twitching up and down. It almost seemed like he was trying to get up, couldn't, and just freaked out.

I'm not sure what the NFL teams do about an injury like this, I was wondering this myself. I would imagine in this case, The Players Association would step in and do whatever it is neccessary to take care of him. And yes, the NFL is terrible about taking care of their older players. A lot of the older guys are basically crippled and the NFL has not done much about this.

As a whole, I would say NHL players are tougher just because you never see them complaining. But there is no question NFL players take far more physical abuse.



For those who have never seen this, it's pretty freaky...
YouTube - Arabian Football Player Is Taken by the angel of death
 
For those who have never seen this, it's pretty freaky...
YouTube - Arabian Football Player Is Taken by the angel of death
Woah thats weird! Never saw that before, it says in the comments he had a massive seizure but they he think he lived!

On the subject of football (soccer) there was a player just recently in England had a heart attack on the pitch and i believe his heart stopped for about 4 minutes in the dressing room, he lived and was on the TV today talking about playing again in a few weeks. Same thing happened to a professional footballer in Spain, 21-22 years old but he died of a massive heart attack.

Not trying to say soccer players are tougher than hockey or NFL though :anon.sml:
 
The NFL players union takes care of severely wounded players, not to mention all the players are heavily insured for these kinds of injuries.

It's pretty tragic... I mean, I love watching Football (as some of you might have noticed, ha ha) but it's too bad that since there is so much physical violence, at least once every other year or so this sort of thing happens.

Rumor has it that this Bills guy is doing okay though. I mean, it sounds like there's a chance he'll be able to live at least a halfway normal life, if the surgeries and stuff work out.
 
I live in Buffalo and am I die hard Bills fan..... It was a tough loss to denver and tougher loss of Everett. That's just a reminder that this man woke up Sunday and walked into that Stadium and onto that field. That will most likely be the last time he ever walked. Appreciate what you have because it can soon be gone.
 
I live in Buffalo and am I die hard Bills fan..... It was a tough loss to denver and tougher loss of Everett. That's just a reminder that this man woke up Sunday and walked into that Stadium and onto that field. That will most likely be the last time he ever walked. Appreciate what you have because it can soon be gone.
Good news, they are now confident Everett is actually going to walk again. Apparently they used some new procedure by cooling the body temperature immediately after the injury. Supposedly this is to stop further damage occuring. It was just on sportscenter.
 
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