I really dont know anything about affilate marketing(im new here this is my first post) all i know about it so far is that i get a link that promotes a product; other people need to click the link and buy the product and i get some money. but i have no idea how to get people to buy. do i have to make my own website or what?
Is it possible to me a successful affiliate marketer without making a website
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You don't have to have one, but I guarantee that you'll never be as successful as you would if you did have one.
I don't have a current website, well ok thats a lie I've had lots and lots but you could always use a blog to target a particular niche.
My advice since you seem like a complete newbie (Not trying to insult you) but you should read, and then read some more and when you've almost given up read some more and read the information contained in this forum.
And send me a PM if you have any very broad questions like "How Do I make money online" because if you post that here you'r going to get flamed and probably yelled at.
Ok its going to take some time so you'll need some motivation, have a look around for some stats that are posted in this forum, that should do for now, once you've done that do your research on the following.
1) Affiliate Marketing
2) SEO
3) SEM
4) PPC
5) Arbitridge
Thats not set in stone and others will give you more basic stuff to start off with but do you know anything about web design or how to create a blog?
If not start doing your research and learning the following.
1) HTML
2) XHTML
3) RSS
4) SEO
5) CSS
Ok the first two are practically the same but its the history of HTML you should know then learn how to use Paint Shop Pro or some other photo editing software because you'll need it for your design development.
WoW I'm going to stop typing and yes it seems like it could take you about a year of reading before you get anything done but thats what you'll have to do, your going to have to dedicate yourself to learning the market, its not as easy as click here or buy this eBook and you'll make millions.
It's going to take a lot of hard work and dedication to bring in the big bucks but everyone has got to start somewhere and you've found a great place to start doing that.
If anyone has anything to add please do I'm leaving to go argue with a Warrior Forum member thats floating around Wicked Fire.
P.S. You can always PM me if you need help with something else, I'll do my best to set you in the right direction but there is no one secret to making money online, learning is the most powerful thing you can do right now.
My advice since you seem like a complete newbie (Not trying to insult you) but you should read, and then read some more and when you've almost given up read some more and read the information contained in this forum.
And send me a PM if you have any very broad questions like "How Do I make money online" because if you post that here you'r going to get flamed and probably yelled at.
Ok its going to take some time so you'll need some motivation, have a look around for some stats that are posted in this forum, that should do for now, once you've done that do your research on the following.
1) Affiliate Marketing
2) SEO
3) SEM
4) PPC
5) Arbitridge
Thats not set in stone and others will give you more basic stuff to start off with but do you know anything about web design or how to create a blog?
If not start doing your research and learning the following.
1) HTML
2) XHTML
3) RSS
4) SEO
5) CSS
Ok the first two are practically the same but its the history of HTML you should know then learn how to use Paint Shop Pro or some other photo editing software because you'll need it for your design development.
WoW I'm going to stop typing and yes it seems like it could take you about a year of reading before you get anything done but thats what you'll have to do, your going to have to dedicate yourself to learning the market, its not as easy as click here or buy this eBook and you'll make millions.
It's going to take a lot of hard work and dedication to bring in the big bucks but everyone has got to start somewhere and you've found a great place to start doing that.
If anyone has anything to add please do I'm leaving to go argue with a Warrior Forum member thats floating around Wicked Fire.
P.S. You can always PM me if you need help with something else, I'll do my best to set you in the right direction but there is no one secret to making money online, learning is the most powerful thing you can do right now.
Are you saying that a blog is not a website? I must say it is.
To answer donuts3's question. Depends on how you are gonna market the offers/products. If you do it with adwords I think you do need a website, at least I would say a landing page is a website. If you just use your affiliate link as destination in adwords, you won't stand a chance.
But you can always spread your affiliate links in other ways. In e-books over bittorent for example.
Nice of you guys to offer your posts to help him out.. but this guy is TOO new for WickedFire. There's a difference between newbies who know the gist of things and don't have to ask really retarded questions like this one here, and others that are like him, that would ask "What's a WordPress?".
Sorry buddy.. go somewhere else until you learn the basics and then maybe we'll let you back in.
I agree that every forum needs it's newbies, because we all start out somewhere at the bottom, but when you are some super newbie like this guy here, ehhh.. go to earnersforum.com or sitepoint.com. Just don't buy any ebooks, and keep reading those forums and ask questions like this over there.
Sorry buddy.. go somewhere else until you learn the basics and then maybe we'll let you back in.
I agree that every forum needs it's newbies, because we all start out somewhere at the bottom, but when you are some super newbie like this guy here, ehhh.. go to earnersforum.com or sitepoint.com. Just don't buy any ebooks, and keep reading those forums and ask questions like this over there.
Yes some more good valuable information. But is a blog a website?
This makes me say maybe because I cannot call it a website and I cannot say its not a website, technically speaking it is a website, its got a domain name, it features XHTML, CSS, basic web development stuff, and well lets face it, it's featured on the web, so in a way yes its a website.
But no its not a website because the blogging community is defined differently, a website almost holds a traditional standards, your never limited to what you can do with a website, even though a blog can be a very powerful tool, you still have more control and power with a website, I think a blog is a more relaxed way to approach some types of people, while a website is a better way to go if you need more overall control of things.
Its a really hard question to me but most would just say yes it is or no its not, I like to think of it in terms of how useful can it be, which one do you have more time for, do you like coding more or do you like writing more?.
There are a lot of factors but in technical terms yes a blog is a website.
this may come across harsh and i don't mean it that way. but unless you are not interested in these topics because you want to monetize these particular skills in themselves, you don't need any of it to be a successful internet marketer. in fact, i even think the more you know, the worse for you.
because the role of a marketer is selling, not programming. hence he should be concerned about mastering the pre-sales and sales process with technological means, but not the technological slkills to realize a technical web solution.
it would simply be a waste of time, money and particularly skills if a good marketer is spending time on developing things if he instead can work on the salesfront during that time and getting earnings.
a lot of people here seem very technologically adept and they seem to like to spent a good amount of time improving these skills. but at the same time i feel, that those skills get into their way of making money, as they are never really satisfied with the results they achieved from a technological perspective, so they postpone every launch and say "i'll do that tomorrow, just one little tweak here and i will be going live".
worst fault in my point of view.
with the help of wickedfire i have really been able to stop all that focusing on technological matters, because i have seen, that the really successful guys have an idea about technology, but their focus is on doing business. so now, i outsource design, content and other matters now as i know, that although i CAN do it, i rather should spent my time on managing the overall plan and bring myself in on those activities, that are crucial to the money making process: process design for sales / conversion tracking, affiliate offer analysis, profitability calculation, project calculation: so, marketing-, business- and projectmanagement in general.
well, i could go on and on but you get the general idea and my point of view: if you want to be a marketer, then go out and do marketing. if you want to do a developer, then develop. if you want to to be a designer, design. but whatever you do, do it the real way or rather ask yourself if you should not leave that area to someone who really has the skills and if you instead shouldn't be focusing on the core competencies in the internet marketing arena: using the internet to sell stuff to people.
there is rarely a jack of all trades that actually is good at everything. rarely.
cyberworkspace,
Good post, I agree with you, the main reason why I posted that little part was because if your that new, you might not be able to afford to hire a web designer right off the bat, its good to know a little bit about creating a website, I've found it useful to know the programing aspect but then again I've been a web developer longer then a marketer.
I do know that being picky with your web development does hold back some of your projects, sometimes I think oh this isn't good enough yet, it will never convert and I hold off on doing it, instead of just putting it out there and testing it, I'm getting out of that state of mind more and more but I know what you mean.
Anyway I've just always found it more helpful to know at least the basic web development and photo editing techniques when your dealing with online marketing, it can save you some money and you can do things your way a lot more, however it will cost you your time and like we stated above try not to get too picky with yourself, let others do that by monitoring your conversions.
Good post, I agree with you, the main reason why I posted that little part was because if your that new, you might not be able to afford to hire a web designer right off the bat, its good to know a little bit about creating a website, I've found it useful to know the programing aspect but then again I've been a web developer longer then a marketer.
I do know that being picky with your web development does hold back some of your projects, sometimes I think oh this isn't good enough yet, it will never convert and I hold off on doing it, instead of just putting it out there and testing it, I'm getting out of that state of mind more and more but I know what you mean.
Anyway I've just always found it more helpful to know at least the basic web development and photo editing techniques when your dealing with online marketing, it can save you some money and you can do things your way a lot more, however it will cost you your time and like we stated above try not to get too picky with yourself, let others do that by monitoring your conversions.
I would somewhat agree that you don't really need to know much programming. I think is vital to know atleast a little about the situation for sure.
I am what Jon would refer to as a Newbie who knows the gist of everything but as of now has only been a spectator.
I can offer a little advice in the sales aspect tho. In my highschool days i was a telemarketer and cold calling is one of the hardest things to do at first. I remember calling upwards to about 1500 calls a day. Approx. 95% of those being around 30 seconds or shorter. The calls that lasted longer than that were in result of some prior knowledge of our program we were selling. I made money off each sale and so did the company. If you want to make money and you cant make a website then dontmake a website. Save up some money and pay someone else to. Either way you will make money with research and pre-selling is a big key if you ask me.
When trying to make money in any type of marketing. It serves well to have pre-sale skills. Good internet pre-sale skills would be atleast some sort of landing page getting a "buyer" interested in your product,service,ebook etc.
If you dont already have the skill get some general knowledge and focus on what you do good. Excelling in one area is better then being medicocre in a bunch of categories.
I am what Jon would refer to as a Newbie who knows the gist of everything but as of now has only been a spectator.
I can offer a little advice in the sales aspect tho. In my highschool days i was a telemarketer and cold calling is one of the hardest things to do at first. I remember calling upwards to about 1500 calls a day. Approx. 95% of those being around 30 seconds or shorter. The calls that lasted longer than that were in result of some prior knowledge of our program we were selling. I made money off each sale and so did the company. If you want to make money and you cant make a website then dontmake a website. Save up some money and pay someone else to. Either way you will make money with research and pre-selling is a big key if you ask me.
When trying to make money in any type of marketing. It serves well to have pre-sale skills. Good internet pre-sale skills would be atleast some sort of landing page getting a "buyer" interested in your product,service,ebook etc.
If you dont already have the skill get some general knowledge and focus on what you do good. Excelling in one area is better then being medicocre in a bunch of categories.
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