is there anything more annoying than CHEAP people?



Seems appropriate for a gay webmaster forum. :love-smiley-083:

It's sad that that's all you could come up with though after 2 people multi-quoted your last response.

It's not worth the effort. Just some helpful advice -- start worrying more about yourself and less about others.

...You'd rather spend the rest of your night having a nice conversation, looking at that hot chick at the table across from you or getting another drink, rather than seeing one of your friends pull out the Calculator app on his iPhone and asking you how much of the nachos you ate.

And apparently, even higher on your list of worthwhile activities is debating this very issue on an internet forum. Now that's sad (even more sad than the fact that your idea of fun is sitting around "looking at that hot chick at the table across from you"...lol you sir know how to live!). Hey gaiz want to go out and look at some hot chicks tonight? Woo!

I have no desire to continue this conversation. Carry on guys...
 
@lschmidt exactly, I'd rather scrutinize a hot chick than scrutinize a bill. We just see life differently. Let me tell you this though: life is too short to be a cheap ass. Don't love money, love what money can do for you. It's very important to understand the difference. Adios.
 
I just watched the neighbors electricity, gas, and water get turned off in the last week. 2 people in the house working, nice cars, nice clothes, etc... always see them coming in with shopping bags.

(i'm not a snooper - but i can see the front of their house from my office window)

Bet they wish they were a little cheaper while piling up all the debt so they had power when it's 19 degrees out there today. It might explain the footprints going from my wood pile to their house though :)
 
Chill man...

Is taking the subway for 45 minutes really that much worse than taking a cab for 10 minutes? What will you gain from getting to where you want to go an extra 35 minutes early? (In my experience, taking the subway is often times faster than cabbing)

I personally live in Manhattan and I never take the taxis. Here's why:

1) Taxi drivers 50+ percent of the time smell like shit. They have those ethnic genes that give them horrible body odor plus they probably never shower, never exercise, and eat/sleep like shit.
2) Stop and go traffic in NYC plus sitting in the back of a taxi cab equals a miserable experience. Every time I take a taxi I get car sick. It's especially bad after I just ate.
3) Taxi drivers always try to cheat you out of money. They purposely take the streets with the most stop lights. They purposely slow down and let pedestrians cross (even without the walk signal). They purposely turn down streets with lots of traffic. They always say shit like "oh my credit card machine is broken, can you pay cash'? And then they bitch when you don't give them a good tip.
4) It's expensive as fuck. Usually it's $10 for 5+ minute ride. In business hours the meter automatically starts at $2.50.

My advice... live/stay in an area with a good subway station (crosstown trains included)... something like Union Square or near Grand Central/Times Square or downtown...then you will never need to take a god damn taxi. Walking/subway/bus is better than taxi 95% of the time.



As for your being cheap rant... I don't know... find new friends if it bothers you that much.
 
I personally live in Manhattan and I never take the taxis. Here's why:

1) Taxi drivers 50+ percent of the time smell like shit. They have those ethnic genes that give them horrible body odor plus they probably never shower, never exercise, and eat/sleep like shit.
2) Stop and go traffic in NYC plus sitting in the back of a taxi cab equals a miserable experience. Every time I take a taxi I get car sick. It's especially bad after I just ate.
3) Taxi drivers always try to cheat you out of money. They purposely take the streets with the most stop lights. They purposely slow down and let pedestrians cross (even without the walk signal). They purposely turn down streets with lots of traffic. They always say shit like "oh my credit card machine is broken, can you pay cash'? And then they bitch when you don't give them a good tip.

You either haven't lived in NYC long enough or haven't learned how to deal with cabs.

lol @ getting sick every time you are in a taxi (coughpussycough). Sucks to be you.

If a cab takes you a round about way, or deliberately tries to bump his fare, guess what? He isn't getting paid bro. Has happened two times to me. Unless you are a tourist, don't notice, or are too busy getting car sick in the back of the taxi, there is zero reason for you to get ripped off by a taxi driver.

And speaking of people that smell like shit, I wouldn't exactly say that the people on the subways smell like fresh roses.
 
Is taking the subway for 45 minutes really that much worse than taking a cab for 10 minutes?

It's the concept that time > money. That's all that it is. Of course there's nothing wrong to take the subway/bus. I've lived in Manhattan 2 years and I always took the subway to get to work because I lived right across the street from a subway station so it was just as quick as a cab. (Actually it was even quicker than a cab at rush hour)

Taxi drivers 50+ percent of the time smell like shit. They have those ethnic genes that give them horrible body odor plus they probably never shower, never exercise, and eat/sleep like shit.

Hmmm... I sense some racism here. But if that's really your problem, avoid the subway. You'll be exposed to way more "ethnic genes" inside a New York City train.

Anyhow, this thread is not about taxis man. I couldn't care less if you decided to ride your bike, walk, skateboard or even job to your destination. That's really not the point.

Fuck this thread, I'm sick of it myself now. I really thought I'd get more sympathy from an Internet Marketing forum, where people [apparently] splurge on all kinds of things all the time. Guess I was wrong. Should've taken kingofsp's intervention more seriously at the beginning of this thread.
 
Chill man...

Is taking the subway for 45 minutes really that much worse than taking a cab for 10 minutes? What will you gain from getting to where you want to go an extra 35 minutes early? (In my experience, taking the subway is often times faster than cabbing)

I personally live in Manhattan and I never take the taxis. Here's why:

1) Taxi drivers 50+ percent of the time smell like shit. They have those ethnic genes that give them horrible body odor plus they probably never shower, never exercise, and eat/sleep like shit.
2) Stop and go traffic in NYC plus sitting in the back of a taxi cab equals a miserable experience. Every time I take a taxi I get car sick. It's especially bad after I just ate.
3) Taxi drivers always try to cheat you out of money. They purposely take the streets with the most stop lights. They purposely slow down and let pedestrians cross (even without the walk signal). They purposely turn down streets with lots of traffic. They always say shit like "oh my credit card machine is broken, can you pay cash'? And then they bitch when you don't give them a good tip.
4) It's expensive as fuck. Usually it's $10 for 5+ minute ride. In business hours the meter automatically starts at $2.50.

My advice... live/stay in an area with a good subway station (crosstown trains included)... something like Union Square or near Grand Central/Times Square or downtown...then you will never need to take a god damn taxi. Walking/subway/bus is better than taxi 95% of the time.



As for your being cheap rant... I don't know... find new friends if it bothers you that much.

Man, with all the respect, but you must tell to the taxi driver what is the shortest way to get to your home if you know the streets. And since you probably live there, you should now that.
 
Cheap people are smart people.

The biggest mistake people with money make is spending more on the same things - instead of the $20 bottle of wine they go for the $120 bottle of wine. Instead of the 3* hotel they stay in the 5* hotel. All those little extra costs add up real quick. And that's how you get the idiots making 6 figures that have to remortgage their house to pay the credit card bill

Most people are stupid with money. Hence why most people are broke.

If you're making 6 figures and live the same way you did when you were making 5 figures, you'll get rich a lot quicker
 
Hello friend,

The thing more annoying then cheap people is people who complain about cheap people.

I just joke. But for be serious person have right to cheap because it there money. It same if person opposite and want spend all money they have.

Most people work hard for money so can spend it or no spend it however like.

Good luck bro
 
The point is you shouldn't have to tell the taxi driver the shortest way back, or to not fuck with you, or to play by the rules. They should do it no matter what. It shouldn't be our job to keep them in check or make them play by the rules.

(Another thing I've noticed is a lot of times when you go to the outer boroughs or some place on a weird side street downtown or in Chinatown, the drivers will pretend like they don't know where they are going.... Yeah man, you drive these streets 10 hours a day for years. You are either cheating me or you are mentally retarded.)

And.. by the way.. the air conditioned / well ventilated subway is much better than sitting in a closed box with a dirty man who smells like shit. On the subway if there is a homeless fuck smelling the place up, at least you could move to the other side of the car.
 
Ok, it's one thing to be cheap because you're a student or jobless. That I understand (kind of).. It's another thing to be cheap when you're making 6 figures a year. I just don't get it, why do some people like to hide their money and buy only the cheapest stuff they can get their hands on? You could tell the only thing that makes them happy is to look at their fat bank statement. It's always the same excuse they give you "I've got lots of things to pay!"... Don't we all? Is spending a $10 cover to get in the bar really gonna hurt you badly? Is talking on the phone a few more minutes (at $0.19 a minute) really gonna make you go broke? Is spending an extra $50 per night for a nicer hotel in a better location gonna make you have to mortgage your home?

Again I've had this problem with people making LOTS of money... not your average middle class guy

How do you cure cheap people from their disease?

Seriously dude why do you give a fuck???

Just because somebody does not piss their money away like you think they should does not make it a disease to be cured.
 
@lschmidt exactly, I'd rather scrutinize a hot chick than scrutinize a bill. We just see life differently. Let me tell you this though: life is too short to be a cheap ass. Don't love money, love what money can do for you. It's very important to understand the difference. Adios.

Maybe those cheap ass people you know are looking at "what the money can do for them" they just want it do different things than you do. Just because I could give a fuck about a nicer hotel room etc does not mean I just like staring at a bank balance. From your perspective I am one of those cheap SOBs but I use my money for things that very few people every see because my priorities have nothing to do with wasting my money on that nicer hotel room.
 
Bro, have you ever fucking had wheat-o's? It's like eating nuts and bolts sprinkled with rotten sugar.

Rotten sugar is alcohol. That sounds like a pretty manly breakfast.
 
A) Carefully scrutinize the bill to figure out exactly how much you should pay versus how much you ate?
B) Pick up the bill and offer to pay for everyone
C) Split the bill evenly, without worrying about who ate what

Ever been out, and had a friend's girlfriend / wife do A? heh, poor friend. Say 10 of you go for a nice dinner out, bill comes, and everyone just starts throwing money at the middle of the table, because nobody actually cares.

Your poor friend's wife will grab the bill though, and start looking it over. You can hear her whispering, "honey, I only had one ceasar, but she had two, and that lady over there had 3 glasses of wine! I don't think this is right!". You look over at your friend, and the poor guy is melting in his chair in embarrassment, lol
 
Ever been out, and had a friend's girlfriend / wife do A? heh, poor friend. Say 10 of you go for a nice dinner out, bill comes, and everyone just starts throwing money at the middle of the table, because nobody actually cares.

Your poor friend's wife will grab the bill though, and start looking it over. You can hear her whispering, "honey, I only had one ceasar, but she had two, and that lady over there had 3 glasses of wine! I don't think this is right!". You look over at your friend, and the poor guy is melting in his chair in embarrassment, lol

That sucks, but it sucks worse when you're the one who had a main meal and 1 beer and other people in the group (20+ and not everybody knew each other) keep ordering bottle after bottle of wine.. then when the bill comes it's 65 euros (main is around 20) BUT goes up to 75 because one of the 'order another bottle!' brigade refuses to pay because "it can't be that much!"
 
Nothing wrong with thinking long-term.

Just because you're making six figures a year doesn't necessarily mean your loaded. If you're in a high risk industry, especially AM, you can lose your income overnight. If your not the kind of guy who can bounce back, you could be in a lot of trouble.

I would say ideally you should be saving a minimum of 20% of your gross income every month. This is still shaky to me because every year you only gain 2.4 months of security, and you should have a minimum of 1 to 2 years of savings just to give you a *little* breathing room from broke territory.

For the short-term "live it up, life is short" thinkers, *rich* to you could easily be a guy with $65k in savings and making around $160k/year. Not in my opinion, even more so if you are the SPOF in your household.

Let's break it down, You make $ 13.5k/month, you sock away $2,750/month. You've done this consistently for 2 years so your savings is just shy of $65k. Then your in a car accident or blue ice falls from an airplane and lands on you. You better fully recover in at least 4 months because your savings are only going to last you 4.8 months, maybe 9 months if you stretch it. Hopefully you had insurance, otherwise, we low ball it and assume the hospital bill was $25,000, which means you now only have just under 3 months savings ($40k).

The bottom line is, you are not prepared for very much and won't be prepared for a few years by just saving 20% of your gross pay.

The average income in the U.S is $50k to $60k/year, yet we have almost 15% of the country on food stamps. My benchmark for how much income a household should be earning would be a minimum of $40k per person, and $5k per small animal. If you want to party, take a lot of trips, go shopping all the time, whatever, you need to be bringing home more than that. Otherwise, get saving.
 
That sucks, but it sucks worse when you're the one who had a main meal and 1 beer and other people in the group (20+ and not everybody knew each other) keep ordering bottle after bottle of wine.. then when the bill comes it's 65 euros (main is around 20) BUT goes up to 75 because one of the 'order another bottle!' brigade refuses to pay because "it can't be that much!"

65 euros for a group of people eating and drinking? Ordering value meals at McDonalds for just two people is going to run close to $20.00 USD.