Education is priceless. A college degree? Not so much, especially now, probably less in the future. If you learn a ton of useful things, including how to live well, who and what really runs the world, how to get what you want, and to want what you SHOULD want, then it's all good. It's just very questionable how much of that you learn as a uni student these days.
Just got a full scholarship to a university
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Trust me man, I fully 100% agree with you. The only problem is that crap really does hit the fan with internet marketing and I'm just not at the level where I can skate by while adjusting my campaigns, etc... Yes, I'm a peasant. Eventually I know it'll work out but I've gotta have a backup in my pocket.
I have a deathly fear of being homeless/destitute lol. The day I get my first welfare check is the day I personally sterilize myself, therefore I need to have backup plans for my backup plans.
There's more options in business than just internet marketing
If you fail as an internet marketer, at least you've done something, learnt something and failed. You can then take those skills and apply them to something else. Each time you fail you learn more, and can improve on the previous result.
Immediate success is almost worse than failure. Success easily breeds complacency. That fear of being destitute will push you to ensure that you eventually become a success. A degree won't stop you becoming destitute. It just creates the illusion of security, and gives people the confidence to do things that they likely had the skills/drive to do before.
Trust me man, I fully 100% agree with you. The only problem is that crap really does hit the fan with internet marketing and I'm just not at the level where I can skate by while adjusting my campaigns, etc... Yes, I'm a peasant
I have a deathly fear of being homeless/destitute lol. The day I get my first welfare check is the day I personally sterilize myself, therefore I need to have backup plans for my backup plans.
That's ok. I fully endorse your position. We need more people like you, or I won't have anyone to employ.
While I am normally the first to rag on college and people that go and spend so much money + time getting a degree, I can say I think OP is doing something valuable.
Sure we can argue going on your own is valuable too, but so is a lot of other things as well.
For one, I don't have a degree. I went to a community college because I couldn't pay for a normal college/university out of high school and I was top 20% in my school and couldn't get a full ride anywhere I wanted to go.
Working out of high school, I found times where I could go to community college here and there at times in life and was doing a 3.6 GPA and still couldn't get fin. aid for my local Uni's, but ultimately had stop going as life caught up with me in other areas.
I went on to work better and better jobs ( that I hated ) and running my own side business and then going full time on my own, but many times within that struggle I went thru hard times and dry spells and whenever I thought "hey, i'll just get a better paying day job" I would find out that my 16 years of online web experience ( design + programming + marketing ) didn't mean shit to 80% of the companies I went to interview with, and the ones where my experience was the shiz nits, those companies wanted to pay me less then what I was already making because I didn't have a degree. Also, many recruiters will simply throw away your resume if you don't list a degree ( true fact ) so getting in at a bigger corp. is almost impossible unless you have an "in" with someone there. Getting in at top jobs without a degree or an "in" mostly happens at smaller companies, which also tend to pay less and have less benefits ( hey I like having a company car, company Amex, fully paid for health/dental/vision, 3 weeks vaca upfront, and phat 401k options )
If you don't have a degree, you have to have hustle and you have to be good at your hustle all day every day 100% and not slack off or have bad times happen to you and get you down. A lot of people are not up to that stress and work level though every single day. Also, when your hustling.. make sure something doesn't happen to you to where you can't hustle anymore....
Having an asset that you can fall back on ( weither its a degree, investments, a network, etc ) is something priceless and diversifies one's options more then the next person and being successful in life is all about options. Just make sure your not a corporate drone all your life though. Use these first 5-6 years to get a leg up and then go on your own with your skills you pick up the next few years.
Hope you do well bro.
Sure we can argue going on your own is valuable too, but so is a lot of other things as well.
For one, I don't have a degree. I went to a community college because I couldn't pay for a normal college/university out of high school and I was top 20% in my school and couldn't get a full ride anywhere I wanted to go.
Working out of high school, I found times where I could go to community college here and there at times in life and was doing a 3.6 GPA and still couldn't get fin. aid for my local Uni's, but ultimately had stop going as life caught up with me in other areas.
I went on to work better and better jobs ( that I hated ) and running my own side business and then going full time on my own, but many times within that struggle I went thru hard times and dry spells and whenever I thought "hey, i'll just get a better paying day job" I would find out that my 16 years of online web experience ( design + programming + marketing ) didn't mean shit to 80% of the companies I went to interview with, and the ones where my experience was the shiz nits, those companies wanted to pay me less then what I was already making because I didn't have a degree. Also, many recruiters will simply throw away your resume if you don't list a degree ( true fact ) so getting in at a bigger corp. is almost impossible unless you have an "in" with someone there. Getting in at top jobs without a degree or an "in" mostly happens at smaller companies, which also tend to pay less and have less benefits ( hey I like having a company car, company Amex, fully paid for health/dental/vision, 3 weeks vaca upfront, and phat 401k options )
If you don't have a degree, you have to have hustle and you have to be good at your hustle all day every day 100% and not slack off or have bad times happen to you and get you down. A lot of people are not up to that stress and work level though every single day. Also, when your hustling.. make sure something doesn't happen to you to where you can't hustle anymore....
Having an asset that you can fall back on ( weither its a degree, investments, a network, etc ) is something priceless and diversifies one's options more then the next person and being successful in life is all about options. Just make sure your not a corporate drone all your life though. Use these first 5-6 years to get a leg up and then go on your own with your skills you pick up the next few years.
Hope you do well bro.
There's more options in business than just internet marketing
If you fail as an internet marketer, at least you've done something, learnt something and failed. You can then take those skills and apply them to something else. Each time you fail you learn more, and can improve on the previous result.
Immediate success is almost worse than failure. Success easily breeds complacency. That fear of being destitute will push you to ensure that you eventually become a success. A degree won't stop you becoming destitute. It just creates the illusion of security, and gives people the confidence to do things that they likely had the skills/drive to do before.
I definitely appreciate the advise that you've given me man. It's great, thank you. I know that whatever road I go down (really really hoping my online business will one day grow up) I'll need to invest heavily long term to get any solid wealth. I'm basically saying that 10 years from now, I want to be a multi-millionaire.
Side note: about startups - I've done a lot to network with people all over linkedin in the software engineering field. I'm just waiting to get my degree in the pocket so that I can claim to be an "expert" (lol) programmer. It's not a surefire way but I'm positive that'll be way easier than prospecting for jobs the old-fashioned way.
Peace and love to all. Thank you for the advise peeps.
Thanks man, glad you understand what I mean. I can definitely say without a doubt that what you speak about comes from years of experience. I just barely came out of a dry spell and I pretty much realized that if I don't have something in place as backup then my life's going to be a shitpile for a long time. I got really lucky to get the scholarship because it was basically a raffle. I couldn't get a job at all in this city so the only source of income was grinding online and using that to pay for school (fafsa wouldn't give me squattt). I empathize with anyone that has tried to pay for school and had to take a few months off just to get everything in order. It's not easy these days if you don't come from a wealthy background.
I'd seriously hate myself if I was stuck as a corporate drone for more than 5-8 years. I'm just going to use as much money as possible to invest in anything solid (real estate, anything with good leverage). Then I'll go retire in some thai resort and bang ladyboys all day while talking smack to Dwight all day errday.
Peace and love.
lol you keep making up these salaries. First it was 90k a year, then 88k, then 107k. Make up your mind bro
I have a Comp. Eng degree from Vanderbilt. It was fun.
Good job on the scholarships. Getting a scholarship is one thing, maintaining 3.75+ GPA is another.
You want the minimum 80k+/year job? Make sure your GPA is above 3.50 at least when you graduate, and get a good Senior Design project + internship.
I think networking while you were in college would also help later in life.
Good job on the scholarships. Getting a scholarship is one thing, maintaining 3.75+ GPA is another.
You want the minimum 80k+/year job? Make sure your GPA is above 3.50 at least when you graduate, and get a good Senior Design project + internship.
I think networking while you were in college would also help later in life.
It varies depending on where you are.
New york = 107k
Average = 88-91k
Puerto Rico = 75k
I just became a junior bro (school year for me ended yesterday). I already having colleges preemptively riding on my dick because of my 4.9 weighted and 3.9 unweighted. 33 on my ACT and 2200 on my SAT.
Does anyone here give a fuck? No. So why would anyone give a shit about your 3.9 from some hillbilly, inbred community college? Btw, I'm black - checkmate you beta faggot.
Does anyone here give a fuck? No. So why would anyone give a shit about your 3.9 from some hillbilly, inbred community college? Btw, I'm black - checkmate you beta faggot.
most college engineering/science programs (at least ones worth a shit) don't allow you to "double major", you have to get two degrees.