Let's Discuss Aging

No one here has acknowledged yet that once a 'cure for death' is discovered, Big Pharma will own it and only sell it to the billionaires of the world...

So in other words: Yeah, it's possible... JUST NOT FOR YOU unless you become a billionaire.

Jeeta said:
Don't worry bros. Dr Aubrey De Grey, is working on it!

Dr Aubrey De Grey: Cure Aging & Live to 1000...Possible? - YouTube
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I read about this dude in Popular Science around 1999 or so. He really thought he had it all figured out back then already, based upon untying or snipping the ends of our telomeres, which as far as I know are the basis for the HGH.

Interestingly, if he did happen to be right we won't know about it until he lives to be about 125 or so and can say: See, toldja so!

SUP3RNOVA said:
We're not close to discovering an all-encompassing cure for aging in humans. Once we get to that point, there will be decades of testing/regulating/preparing distribution. It's not at all surprising to think that you won't be able to avoid death for at least 100 years, at which point you'll already be dead.
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For every other cure I'd agree with you on; but a 'cure for death' would be different. If the drug fails to work, the worst that could happen is what... You live a normal lifespan? No, testing might happen, but once they feel they've got something that works, they're going to sell it to the billionaires of the world and no one else, and tell the FDA to go fuck themselves.
 


SUP3RNOVA said:
The awesome beard man who has done...what exactly? Grown a beard and told everybody that defeating aging is possible?
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Get the stick out of your ass and do some reading, instead of half-watching a four minute video.

"De Grey's research focuses on whether regenerative medicine can thwart the aging process. He works on the development of what he calls "Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence" (SENS), a tissue-repair strategy intended to rejuvenate the human body and allow an indefinite lifespan. To this end, he has identified seven types of molecular and cellular damage caused by essential metabolic processes. SENS is a proposed panel of therapies designed to repair this damage."

Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your cynicism is borderline forced.
 
Incantation said:
Sorry to hear your news OP, RIP.

Just curious, are there any interesting futurist guys to follow other than Michio Kaku and Ray Kurweil?!
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Check out Ray Kurzweil, he has a documentary on Netflix called Transcendent Man.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntY01qoIdus"]Transcendent Man Film Trailer - YouTube[/ame]
 
Human said:
Your cynicism is borderline forced.
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I remember the first time Aubrey de Grey became popular, and I remember watching his lectures with enthusiasm. That was years ago. His own lack of progress is a tiny indication of the overall progress of "curing" death. We are much more than a century away from a clear solution to people dying.

Can you imagine what it would be like if even 25% of the population were offered immortality (from aging)? Population would blimp, uncontrollably (or in the least - unpredictably). That's a major problem that doesn't even have anything to do with finding a cure in the first place...but it's a problem that *would* hold things back for years. Years on top of the years it's going to take to find a cure in the first place. How about we take care of cancer cells first, so we can at least increase life expectancy?

I used to think it was "cynical" too...and it is to most people. It's also realistic.
 
SUP3RNOVA said:
I remember the first time Aubrey de Grey became popular, and I remember watching his lectures with enthusiasm. That was years ago. His own lack of progress is a tiny indication of the overall progress of "curing" death. We are much more than a century away from a clear solution to people dying.

Can you imagine what it would be like if even 25% of the population were offered immortality (from aging)? Population would blimp, uncontrollably (or in the least - unpredictably). That's a major problem that doesn't even have anything to do with finding a cure in the first place...but it's a problem that *would* hold things back for years. Years on top of the years it's going to take to find a cure in the first place. How about we take care of cancer cells first, so we can at least increase life expectancy?

I used to think it was "cynical" too...and it is to most people. It's also realistic.
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I take that back.
 
MSTeacher said:
something tells me you and I won't be included in 'we' if you're right.
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Bridge to a bridge to a bridge.

We will probably be alive 20-30 years from now, where biological health advancements will extend our lives another 20-30 years. Because of those health advancements (and because we'll be alive at that point anyways since most people here are relatively young), in 40-50 years we'll be alive for nanotechnology related life extension, which will keep us alive another 40-50 years.

So I think, although may be wrong, that many of us will be alive 100 years from now. I have great grandparents who lived as long as 107 years, so I'm certainly not giving up on that.
 
don't count on Aubrey, there's a documentary dedicated entirely to his endeavour, the maker really wanted to believe him, but Aubrey dug his own grave. Oh well.. did sound kind of exciting at the time.

Watch this instead bros (10 mins well spent)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7te6UwgSOY"]Okinawa's Living Relics - Japan - YouTube[/ame]
 
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cardine said:
I would be very surprised if we do not have an indefinite lifespan within the next 100 years.
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So I think, although may be wrong, that many of us will be alive 100 years from now. I have great grandparents who lived as long as 107 years, so I'm certainly not giving up on that.
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I hope to live past 100 years too, but that's far different than having an indefinite life span within 100 years.

Your "in 20-30 years we'll be able to extend life 20-30 years, and 20-30 years from then etc etc" really only works in theory and comes straight from de Grey. What in the next 2 decades will prolong our life an additional 20-50 years? Life expectancy is increasing, but not close to that rate.

Artificial organs are a start, but we are still in the early stages of that as well. Testing, regulating, safety, etc will take decades on it's own...and that's after we discover a universal solution. In 20 years I highly doubt we'll all casually be able to start replacing organs and brain cells.

I think these are all things that we should work on, but cancer should remain the #1 target and since we're potentially decades away from curing that...I wouldn't hold my breath for anti-aging unless it's in jar form at $69.99/month.
 
All I know is I don't want to look at my age as a scorecard. It's not like I won, or unlocked an achievement to get to be 100. My grandma is 87, and as much as I love her, I don't want the last few years of my life to resemble hers consisting of watching reality television and reading magazines.

I want my life to be filled with new experiences, great memories, and knowing that I've done more with my life than most. Living an extra 10-15 bedridden years does not interest me.

The only way those years will be useful is if I spend this middle portion of my life becoming wiser and accomplishing what I set out for.

When I grow old, I just wanna have some grandkids that I can be cool as shit with and help impact and shape their lives in some way.
 
Here ya go: Activist Post: Top 5 Regrets of The Dying

Nobody ever mentions the repercussions of living forever. The status quo would never change. Imagine the people living in the 1700's were still in charge. You think the Occupy Wallstreeters have something to bitch about now?
 
Fuck me, how boring would living for eternity be? At least with a finite time to achieve and do a finite number of activities we can be entertained. It would also give a new meaning to saying, "I'll do it tomorrow."

Not just that, but think about the strain of the inifinite accumulation of regret over an infinite period...
 
Sorry that your grandmom passed but pretty awesome you got to talk to her about her stories and the things she went through. Living through WWI all the way until now, that would have been awesome to witness all the changes in history.
 
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