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We dont need a single world government (I think that is a hugely retarded idea), but we need to be able to work together with other countries to achieve what Dr. Kaku is talking about.
 


Exactly.

One central government for the whole world would just put more power into even less hands and as history and our present time problems show, that power WILL get abused.

You will have to understand that by stardate .... uhhh year 2350 or whatever that one-world-goverment forms we will have colonized many more or less suitable planets and moons...
 
You will have to understand that by stardate .... uhhh year 2350 or whatever that one-world-goverment forms we will have colonized many more or less suitable planets and moons...

Oh well, no point arguing about it until someone starts selling a time travel machine in BST.
 
Greece has gone bust a long time ago and is being held on life support for ages. Almost impossible to recover.
Portugal is recovering slowly. The national budget is being "fixed" and inflation and unemployment are stable.
Ireland as far as I know, is doing better then the previous countries, but still in bad shape.
Spain is on the edge of a cliff and if Portugal doesn't survive the crisis they will fall.

The Germans finally did it, they own Europe's ass.
 
Greece has gone bust a long time ago and is being held on life support for ages. Almost impossible to recover.
Portugal is recovering slowly. The national budget is being "fixed" and inflation and unemployment are stable.
Ireland as far as I know, is doing better then the previous countries, but still in bad shape.
Spain is on the edge of a cliff and if Portugal doesn't survive the crisis they will fall.

The Germans finally did it, they own Europe's ass.

All but Norway + the UK.

IMO Portugal will go first, then Ireland and then it's harder to tell but Spain seems pretty shaky. At the same time France has a lot invested in Greece. Italy will also go down the shitter.
 
All but Norway + the UK.

IMO Portugal will go first, then Ireland and then it's harder to tell but Spain seems pretty shaky. At the same time France has a lot invested in Greece. Italy will also go down the shitter.

You are probably right. All the PIGS are in very bad shape anyway, so it's hard to predict who goes down the drain first.


PS: Is France that bad? If they go down Europe is gona be fucked big time.
 
All but Norway + the UK.

IMO Portugal will go first, then Ireland and then it's harder to tell but Spain seems pretty shaky. At the same time France has a lot invested in Greece. Italy will also go down the shitter.

Not a chance, Italy is really secure in terms of exposure to banking problems, plus people have among the highest personal savings in the Eurozone.
Bunga bunga.
 
Not a chance, Italy is really secure in terms of exposure to banking problems, plus people have among the highest personal savings in the Eurozone.
Bunga bunga.

Yeah they have other problems like:

the manslaughter charges facing six seismologists and one
government official in Italy after an earthquake there killed 309 people
and destroyed 20,000 buildings.


and of course bunga bunga - but, if you can't get away with that in Italy where can you?
 
So a load of countries decided to get together in a big social experiment run by people who don't need to get elected and can't get fired when they fuck up.

And it failed?

Who'd of thunk it?
 
I'm just really glad I got to see all of the PIGS before their collapse. It's just not going to be the same after they have some kind of revolution there...

I sure hope the riots don't wipe out places like the Acropolis or the Coloseum...
 
france isn't that bad! the whole upper left corner is doing pretty well, where UK, Germany and holland are the stronger ones at the moment
 
I'm just really glad I got to see all of the PIGS before their collapse. It's just not going to be the same after they have some kind of revolution there...

I sure hope the riots don't wipe out places like the Acropolis or the Coloseum...

Same here, although I was sad back when Greece went to the Euro and prices started ratcheting up.
 
There will also be a rising up of Muslim nations against Isreal led by Russia and Iran around the same time as the two things you mentioned above, and it will end with a nuclear device detinated over Northern Isreal.

I see muslim countries mostly killing each other for mouthfuls of water after their oil runs out. They don't produce shit, and are largely uneducated.
 
I see muslim countries mostly killing each other for mouthfuls of water after their oil runs out. They don't produce shit, and are largely uneducated.

China and India might be "largely uneducated" also, but they have enough people who are.

Not enough doctors come out of the US education system, so something like 10% in the US are brought in from Muslim nations. There's a street in Baghdad that at one point had over a thousand book shops.

Places like Egypt export a lot of cotton, steel and whatnot. The value of minerals in Afghanistan is estimated to be worth over 1 trillion dollars.

The architecture in Dubai might be the most futuristic in the world, though most of that is probably headed up by outside firms.
 
China and India might be "largely uneducated" also, but they have enough people who are.

Not enough doctors come out of the US education system, so something like 10% in the US are brought in from Muslim nations. There's a street in Baghdad that at one point had over a thousand book shops.

Places like Egypt export a lot of cotton, steel and whatnot. The value of minerals in Afghanistan is estimated to be worth over 1 trillion dollars.

The architecture in Dubai might be the most futuristic in the world, though most of that is probably headed up by outside firms.

that and no one is running out of oil any time soon. Don't believe the hype.
 
I see muslim countries mostly killing each other for mouthfuls of water after their oil runs out. They don't produce shit, and are largely uneducated.

same can be said about usa... gotto keep on buying stuff on credit i guess.
 
lol.. this thread is ridiculous.. this country is gonna collapse and that country is gonna collapse.. LOL.. what a bunch of loons.

There are incredibly smart people in power who will make sure things run smoothly as possible.. dont forget rome was still functioning pretty well even after the collapse of the roman empire.. while italy may not be as prosperous as USA, they still have a very good quality of life, some would argue even better than USA. which has HUGE amounts of poverty.

Rome has been going for more than 2000 years and will still be a major prosperous european capital for a long time
 
Not every country is in a complete mess. There are many that will weather the storm much better than other eurozone members.

Poland, Germany, France, the UK , Switzerland, Norway and Finland are a few that come to mind immediately. They have much stronger systems than say Greece or Italy who are rather corrupt and spendy.

Whether people want to admit it , the US is in a much better position than the EU as a whole, our problems aren't as much from a society of corruption, just a few political groups. If we can evict a decent % of politicians we can get everything fixed. I have much better hope living in the US than I would in many European countries, as they will see a bloodbath soon.

Canada of course looks down on most other countries, as they're practically the king of the hill right now. Conservative economic policies and great natural resources make them one of the best economic powers in my mind.

As for China, I'm not a big fan, they can't feed themselves and a significant amount of their country is still agrarian. The Chinese government is extremely racist, treating western Providences like peons and eastern ones much better. This will eventually boil over if something doesn't happen. Furthermore with some radicalization of certain religious/ethnic groups in the west, it could lead to very bad problems 5-20 years down the road.
 
In swept Geithner... meeting in Breslau last Thursday with the European Ministers of Finance... to tell them they gotta fucking up their spendings, raise taxes and put on more stimoulus programs in order to avoid economies slowing down.

Got his ass kicked six ways to Sunday and left with his tail between his legs. Mingling in European Finances? Providing unwanted advice. Nope, not happening. Or so, say said.....