Mad Max Fury Road

[GideonMonk]

Mad Max is pretty good. It is a fun, leave your brain at the door summer movie.

The feminist debate makes no sense to me at all.

If you don't treat me with respect and pay me my fair share for good work, then I will fight.

Man or woman, you hold your ground, speak your mind and never apologize for being good or doing good.

You can label me whatever you want, but you better say it with respect.

 

[Grindstone]

While every community has idiots, I would think of WF as the place to contain a lot of people who aren't getting emotional over trends like average people and instead thinking of ways to profit.

I'm sure BeachAffiliate is serving these vagina haters up awesome fb ads to rile them up, then profit on the other end. At least I hope so.

 

[Vadym]

Sexist propoganda by Rothschild. Paid Beyonce to do a music video of what it would look like if girls ruled the world for an hour. Everything would look like the set of Mad Max. Or Syria.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmMU_iwe6U[/ame]

 

[StackCash]

Saw it last night. It's fun entertainment. The score is dope. There really isn't enough substance to the movie for y'all to be reading into it this much. It's a fucking car chase film.

 

[Vadym]

Saw it last night. It's fun entertainment. The score is dope. There really isn't enough substance to the movie for y'all to be reading into it this much. It's a fucking car chase film.

This Guy Wants You to Boycott 'Mad Max: Fury Road' Because He Doesn't Like Feminism | VICE | Canada

No it is world shattering event. inb4 first feminist mass shooting

 

[DanTe_0101]

I have never trusted rottentomatoes, IMDB is a better place to look for movie ratings before watching.

 

[potentialeight]

This Guy Wants You to Boycott 'Mad Max: Fury Road' Because He Doesn't Like Feminism | VICE | Canada

No it is world shattering event. inb4 first feminist mass shooting

I couldn't help but get tickled at this:

Additionally, Clarey and those who agree with him seem to be missing a much larger point, which is that action movies on the whole are incredibly homoerotic.

lol seriously, like let's just go down the checklist to try to discredit a logical argument from a man. Oh wait, let's call him gay. Maybe after that we can say he has anger issues.

Straight men getting mad that an action movie features women kicking ass is like straight men getting mad that women show up in a gay porn.

Roflmao. Logic is not this guy's strong point, let alone identifying the correct premise (ie: it's not about women kicking ass which has been welcomed with open arms in plenty of action movies before this one).

Ultimately, fears that action movies might be becoming too feminist comes from the same place as the anxieties of GamerGaters: the idea that spaces that have classically been reserved for men might no longer be strictly theirs. Those men are cowards.

Completely misses the point of GG and the simple fact that putting a female into an all-male space completely changes the dynamic (and often the function) of the space.

 

[Vadym]

Yeah - seems like you can get on VICE with an article about anything, das bad.

inb4 its a new service for SEO. inb4inb4 I outed someones new sales thread.

 

[bluechinagroup]

Who cares if this movie has so called feminist propaganda? It's not like anyone is going to be taking this movie seriously or consider it a realistic portrayal of post apocalyptic life. It's a dumb summer popcorn movie. Stop over analyzing! I'm going to go see it.

Completely misses the point of GG and the simple fact that putting a female into an all-male space completely changes the dynamic (and often the function) of the space.

Honestly I don't really see the problem with females being in an "all male" space. It's 2015, stop living in the 1960s.

Is there something in the air that is making wickedfire collectively go full retard?

 

[Industrypariah]

I never thought I'd ever see the day when someone on WF would bitch about homo propaganda. Stop being so insecure about your sexuality and just embrace it. Suck a dick and live a little!

It might even help some of you knuckle dragging derps see things from a different perspective for once.

 

[potentialeight]

Honestly I don't really see the problem with females being in an "all male" space. It's 2015, stop living in the 1960s.

Females in an all-male space makes it stop being an all-male space. Men need male only spaces to maximize their development. You're arguing that there is no need for all-male spaces. That's ridiculous. Note that there also need to be all-female spaces, and to somehow suggest that this is "living in the 1960s" flies directly in the face of logic.

Women need to stop trying to be half-assed men and start being whole-assed women.

 

[bluechinagroup]

The concept of all female spaces is dated too; especially now with so many transgender people coming out of the closet. It's hard to take what you write seriously when you don't see "all male spaces" in a typical professional setting.

You're coming off as a guy that doesn't know how to address someone of the opposite sex as a fellow professional and a human rather than a walking vagina.

 

[Vadym]

All male space: garage
All female space: kitchen

Problem solved bros, kumbaya.

 

[rusvik]

I couldn't help but get tickled at this:



lol seriously, like let's just go down the checklist to try to discredit a logical argument from a man. Oh wait, let's call him gay. Maybe after that we can say he has anger issues.



Roflmao. Logic is not this guy's strong point, let alone identifying the correct premise (ie: it's not about women kicking ass which has been welcomed with open arms in plenty of action movies before this one).



Completely misses the point of GG and the simple fact that putting a female into an all-male space completely changes the dynamic (and often the function) of the space.

What a disgusting bitch this VICE guy is. Would punch in face irl.

To those saying it's not that bad, yada yada, women can be in male spaces blabla, what's really going on is just you being lazy and wanting to not take on responsibility for society in any way, which isn't surprising considering the mix of anti-social personality type and libertarians here. Don't go around trying to pass it off as being above stuff like that, you are just too lazy to care.

To compare, what these Hollywood usual suspects are doing to male cinema is comparable to if chick flicks instead of a happy ending with her getting the elusive player, she actually ends up either alone with cats or with a fat slob beta. That's the same and trust me, women wouldn't like that either.

This is the early time of the reactionary pushback. We're approaching peak degneracy, feminism and chosen ones hegemony, but the pushback is coming and the fact can be seen in any mainstream comment section now. It's growing exponentially.

It will be a day of beauty when the corrupters are put to justice.

 

[bluechinagroup]

To those saying it's not that bad, yada yada, women can be in male spaces blabla, what's really going on is just you being lazy and wanting to not take on responsibility for society in any way, which isn't surprising considering the mix of anti-social personality type and libertarians here. Don't go around trying to pass it off as being above stuff like that, you are just too lazy to care.

What can I say? I really don't care about what kind of "message" a popcorn summer movie could be sending because it's not going to influence me. Ultimately all hollywood wants to do is make money, not feed you feminist propaganda. You didn't even see the movie and you're making judgments about it.

Yeah I'm a libertarian, but I'm not trying to be "above stuff" like that because I am too lazy to care. It just sounds like you're close minded and probably have zero gay friends and also can't relate to women as fellow human beings. You clearly have a problem with empathizing with these groups and come up with Lukep style conspiracies about feminism and homosexuality rather than addressing your insecurities head on.

Instead of getting yourself worked up over stupid shit like this, focus on your money making projects instead.

On the other hand, I also don't think it's cool to jump all over a rocket scientist who successfully landed a probe on a comet like a histrionic queen simply due to the fact that his Hawaiian shirt featured cartoon girls, with bikinis which a bunch of twitter losers did last year under the banner of feminism. It was really more about feeding their pathetic egos than about feminism though.

 

[rusvik]

What can I say? I really don't care about what kind of "message" a popcorn summer movie could be sending because it's not going to influence me. Ultimately all hollywood wants to do is make money, not feed you feminist propaganda. You didn't even see the movie and you're making judgments about it.

Yeah I'm a libertarian, but I'm not trying to be "above stuff" like that because I am too lazy to care. It just sounds like you're close minded and probably have zero gay friends and also can't relate to women as fellow human beings. You clearly have a problem with empathizing with these groups and come up with Lukep style conspiracies about feminism and homosexuality rather than addressing your insecurities head on.

Instead of getting yourself worked up over stupid shit like this, focus on your money making projects instead.

On the other hand, I also don't think it's cool to jump all over a rocket scientist who successfully landed a probe on a comet like a histrionic queen simply due to the fact that his Hawaiian shirt featured cartoon girls, with bikinis which a bunch of twitter losers did last year under the banner of feminism. It was really more about feeding their pathetic egos than about feminism though.

You mistake me spending 2 minutes writing a post for getting worked up. I am simply doing my part in furthering what I believe is a necessary and good movement for the world (neoreactionary).

If everyone who agreed with this movement (which is a lot of people even if they don't know), would just speak their mind and not be so concerned about what the Television told them to think, then this idiocy could be ended in a year.

Yes, enjoy and reap the spoils while Rome burns, and yes you're right in that it is actually not productive to care and it isn't profitable, but somehow I do care unfortunately. It's a personality defect I know.

This also has nothing to do with homosexuality or women. I have zero problems with homosexuals unless they are the far left, loony marxist types who want to call me a cis-gendered scum patriarch white male and tax me and spend my money on forcing my future kids to play with non-gender stereotypical toys. And also, I've grown up with these feminist fuckers and I want to get my revenge on their child abuse like behavior.

Yes though. I suppose for a generation or two more, you can escape the negative effects of SJWism by being a high net worth individual, but not forever, and not your kids. Communism lasted 80 fucking years, 3 generations of people under slavery. Got to take a stand at some point dude.

 

[bluechinagroup]

You mistake me spending 2 minutes writing a post for getting worked up. I am simply doing my part in furthering what I believe is a necessary and good movement for the world (neoreactionary).

If everyone who agreed with this movement (which is a lot of people even if they don't know), would just speak their mind and not be so concerned about what the Television told them to think, then this idiocy could be ended in a year.

Yes, enjoy and reap the spoils while Rome burns, and yes you're right in that it is actually not productive to care and it isn't profitable, but somehow I do care unfortunately. It's a personality defect I know.

This also has nothing to do with homosexuality or women. I have zero problems with homosexuals unless they are the far left, loony marxist types who want to call me a cis-gendered scum patriarch white male and tax me and spend my money on forcing my future kids to play with non-gender stereotypical toys. And also, I've grown up with these feminist fuckers and I want to get my revenge on their child abuse like behavior.

Yes though. I suppose for a generation or two more, you can escape the negative effects of SJWism by being a high net worth individual, but not forever, and not your kids. Communism lasted 80 fucking years, 3 generations of people under slavery. Got to take a stand at some point dude.

Well I do have to agree with you that SJWs do suck and are epic losers. They used to be all over another forum I used to read, but they finally got called out and made irrelevant.

But I still don't understand your problem with "homosexual propaganda" in a tv show. Do you mean you don't like it when a particular tv character is gay or bisexual? Unfortunately I haven't seen season 3 of House of Cards yet. I need to catch up and only finished season 2.

 

[rusvik]

Well I do have to agree with you that SJWs do suck and are epic losers. They used to be all over another forum I used to read, but they finally got called out and made irrelevant.

But I still don't understand your problem with "homosexual propaganda" in a tv show. Do you mean you don't like it when a particular tv character is gay or bisexual? Unfortunately I haven't seen season 3 of House of Cards yet. I need to catch up and only finished season 2.

Ok, it's not the inclusion of homosexuals in mainstream media I have a problem with or the inclusion of female action heros. Example, Omar from The Wire, or Scarlett Johansson kicking ass in Avengers. No problem. Suspension of disbelief, for me it doesn't ruin a movie to have a small woman beating up men, if it is just for entertainment and fiction. Who cares?

It's when these topics are pushed with a political totalitarian agenda that it bothers me. It bothers me first of all, because I hate when people think I'm a moron who can be manipulated and second, because I even more hate when art and entertainment becomes political ideology.

This is EXACTLY as when in the 70-80s when a lot of European cinema, TV and even music was constantly loaded with marxist propaganda, by real life, traiterous Sovjet friendly marxists. The worst of course was when these people pushed it on children, giving them nightmares about a common nuclear holocaust or instilling feelings of white guilt into them. I grew up with A LOT of white guilt and anti-male stuff being taught in school, so I have very little tolerance for it.

As for House of Cards, there are two problems, one is the incredibly obvious direct political slander of Russia and Putin, where the gay movement is being used to directly launch an attack. Second, because the series clearly doesn't just use gay characters as a means of fiction (as in The Wire for example) or even slight provocation, but essentially to push radical leftism.

That is the real problem. With feminism and radical LGBT (?) comes ALWAYS a totalitarian leftist agenda, which wants to limit freedom of expresssion (ironically) and wants to tax, tax, tax and redistribute my income to minorities or do affirmative action or sidestep rules in place for safety (such as entrance requirments for firefighters and police). Lastly I believe that feminism and radical queer agenda aims to deliberately destroy social cohesion and always has, this has been in the Communist Manisfesto since day one.

When have you ever met a libertarian feminist or queer advocate? Is it always not just more gov, more tax, more laws?

I can recognize the new face of radical leftism and it's found in feminism and the radical queer movement.

 

[bitfiend]

Well I do have to agree with you that SJWs do suck and are epic losers. They used to be all over another forum I used to read, but they finally got called out and made irrelevant.

But I still don't understand your problem with "homosexual propaganda" in a tv show. Do you mean you don't like it when a particular tv character is gay or bisexual? Unfortunately I haven't seen season 3 of House of Cards yet. I need to catch up and only finished season 2.

Yeah, I agree. I find it hard to get worked-up over a movie. If you don't like it , don't watch it. Activism (either SJWs or men's rights) both are a waste of time. Make money and be an advocate for yourself. When I was younger I cared a lot more about politics, but now not so much.

 

[Capital]

I am not a male feminist. I sympathize with some Men's Rights causes. But again, I also sympathize with some feminist causes. I try to be a moderate rationalist, but that's about it. With that said:

This movie kicks major ass. It's definitely a film that will be enjoyed by MOSTLY men (because gender-specific preferences DO exist). Very few things in this film will likely appeal to the conventional gender-specific preferences of women. HOWEVER, there are strong feminist elements in this film. But they aren't preachy and they actually make total sense within the film's universe.

Contrary to what both MRA affiliated idiots and feminist ideologues think, the feminist overtones in this film aren't particularly interesting or controversial. Nor do they eclipse the visually gorgeous pedal-to-the-metal action sequences.

The most "feminist" things about this movie are:

1. One of the main protagonists is a woman who kicks ass and is good at driving.
2. Later on in the film, they encounter a small group of survivalist women who also kick ass (when they aren't being killed off).
3. Most of the injustices perpetrated in the film are committed by men.

(1) and (2) make perfect sense in this movie's universe, in which only the strong survive. It makes sense that SOME females would embrace a kill-or-be-killed mentality that furthers their survival (And note - not all women in this film are like this. There are weak women just as there are weak men). (3) makes sense given the conditions of Mad Max's society (or rather, the lack of a society). Simple observation tells us that in undeveloped, volatile, 3rd world countries, MEN do run things and commit most of the injustices. You only need to glance at places like Somalia for an illustration of this fact. So really, this film is pretty fucking realistic in that sense. (3) only becomes preposterous if you presuppose Mad Max's brutal, post-apocalyptic world WOULDN'T be mostly male dominated and primitive in respect to gender roles.

Stop freaking out about the film. Go see it. It does so many things right, and blew away my expectations (I also went in skeptical about the supposed "feminist" agenda).