Master Debaters Debating

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8"]"Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action - YouTube[/ame]



lolz

Apparently getting emotional and dropping the N bomb is championship material.
 


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If you've ever seen any form of high school or college debate it's pretty much always this bad. The formats schools use for debate are completely idiotic.
 
I always wondered what Tumblr looks like in real life.

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At least they'll have another useless piece of paper to hang up next to their undergrad Lib Arts degree.

Also, there's no fucking way that production team wasn't mocking the living shit out of those kids with the way they cut that footage.
 
Great. They'll cover any news story that makes black Americans look fucking retarded. Never mind real black debate teams with promising, young intellectuals at the helm.

No wonder sheltered whites go throughout their lives silently harboring racist thoughts. Can you fucking blame them when the black man is incessantly characterized as a fucking ape?
 
SirKonstantine said:
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WTF is up with that "Uh" shit? I don't get it.

Meanwhile Jeremy Clarkson is getting roasted in the UK press for maybe mumbling the word "nigger" in a Top Gear outtake from years ago, where he recited "Eeeny Meeny Miny Mo". Talk about a double standard.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYDzLUH1NE]Old School (9/9) Movie CLIP - That's the Way You Debate (2003) HD - YouTube[/ame]
 
Holy shit: http://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...tional-college-debate-white-privilege/360746/

It used to be that if you went to a college-level debate tournament, the students you’d see would be bookish future lawyers from elite universities, most of them white. In matching navy blazers, they’d recite academic arguments for and against various government policies. It was tame, predictable, and, frankly, boring.

No more.

These days, an increasingly diverse group of participants has transformed debate competitions, mounting challenges to traditional form and content by incorporating personal experience, performance, and radical politics. These “alternative-style” debaters have achieved success, too, taking top honors at national collegiate tournaments over the past few years.
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and in reference to the debate from the OP's video:

On March 24, 2014 at the Cross Examination Debate Association (CEDA) Championships at Indiana University, two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.
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So they completely ignored the resolution, and won.

Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “Fuck the time!” he yelled.
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And from last years winners:

Many of their arguments, based on personal memoir and rap music, completely ignored the stated resolution, and instead asserted that the framework of collegiate debate has historically privileged straight, white, middle-class students.
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And this is all very good for debate because:

“Finally, there’s a recognition in the academic space that the way argument has taken place in the past privileges certain types of people over others,” he said. “Arguments don’t necessarily have to be backed up by professors or written papers. They can come from lived experience.”
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