Michigan Will Take Over Detroit

Detroit
California

Both have been run by the Democrat Party for decades. Both financially in ruins. Total coincidence.

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Karen De Coster recently started a blog about Detroit's resurgence. She's lived there for years, and has a unique perspective on the city. Here's one of her posts that may bring a smile to individualists who advocate for self-protection...

Detroit: From Rust to Riches: Is Detroit a Self-Defense Haven?

I've never visited Detroit, so I'm ignorant about current events there. But De Coster is a smart lady, and I'm inclined to trust her perspective. (You can learn more about her here.)

+rep she's awesome.

Despite the negative tone of my last post, that was actually how I feel about the past state of affairs in Detroit. I can honestly say though for the first time in my life that I think Detroit is finally on the rebound and the future looks good. Not the immediate future, but probably 10-20 years out. The emergency financial manager needs to do his job, then you'll probably see the largest municipal bankruptcy in US history in about 18-24 months. That removes power from the fucking retards that have been running the city for years and at that point the ship will be fully turned around and pointed in the right direction.

There are already billionaires like Dan Gilbert and Mike Illitch that have seen this coming and they are pouring money into the downtown/midtown area which is making a huge difference. As dangerous as some of the neighborhoods in Detroit are, you also have areas like this that are as safe as any big city. It's going to take awhile for those improvements to spread outwards but it's enough of an improvement that businesses are finally moving back into Detroit, and now the hipsters are following so gentrification has begun.

Fun fact - the amount of abandoned/vacant properties in the city take up an area larger than the entire city of San Francisco.

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Needless to say, that's a bit of a problem.
 
That's exactly what happened.

Really? What makes Detroit more of a "premier socialist experiment" than those in places like Vermont, Connecticut, or Seattle, San Francisco, or NYC?

very little contrarian thought or outside influence

The Michigan state and US federal government have little influence over how "socialist" Detroit is? You do realize that many of the socialist programs are mandated by state and federal governments, and have nothing to do with the town council?

They raised taxes through the roof

The 10 Most Taxed Cities in America | H&R Block | Block Talk - The H&R Block Official Corporate Blog

Not as high as in other places. So why is Detroit the premier experiment, and not Burlington or Bridgeport?

OK, you're from there, but if you weren't, it would look like an obvious case of cherry picking for purposes of pushing a black or white narrative.

in a city that provides almost zero services.

The "premier socialist experiment in the US" provides almost zero services? Wut?
 
Really? What makes Detroit more of a "premier socialist experiment" than those in places like Vermont, Connecticut, or Seattle, San Francisco, or NYC?

The Michigan state and US federal government have little influence over how "socialist" Detroit is? You do realize that many of the socialist programs are mandated by state and federal governments, and have nothing to do with the town council?

The 10 Most Taxed Cities in America | H&R Block | Block Talk - The H&R Block Official Corporate Blog

Not as high as in other places. So why is Detroit the premier experiment, and not Burlington or Bridgeport?

OK, you're from there, but if you weren't, it would look like an obvious case of cherry picking for purposes of pushing a black or white narrative.

The "premier socialist experiment in the US" provides almost zero services? Wut?

Simple question: Why did Detroit collapse?
 
Really? What makes Detroit more of a "premier socialist experiment" than those in places like Vermont, Connecticut, or Seattle, San Francisco, or NYC?



The Michigan state and US federal government have little influence over how "socialist" Detroit is? You do realize that many of the socialist programs are mandated by state and federal governments, and have nothing to do with the town council?



The 10 Most Taxed Cities in America | H&R Block | Block Talk - The H&R Block Official Corporate Blog

Not as high as in other places. So why is Detroit the premier experiment, and not Burlington or Bridgeport?

OK, you're from there, but if you weren't, it would look like an obvious case of cherry picking for purposes of pushing a black or white narrative.



The "premier socialist experiment in the US" provides almost zero services? Wut?


Because blacks, mostly.
 
All the white people and smart people moved out of the city. Now you have a city full of morons voting for other morons to run the city.


All the white people and smart people moved out of the city. Now you have a city full of niggers voting for other niggers to run the city.

Fixed it for ya
 
Really? What makes Detroit more of a "premier socialist experiment" than those in places like Vermont, Connecticut, or Seattle, San Francisco, or NYC?

Hmm..ok..lets go with your premise. Then I suppose the only factor that really makes Detroit stand out is that it has been run by black people. Maybe we should compare it to Haiti, also run by black people.

Which do you prefer?

Please go on with your inane liberal newspeak and let us know how this is really the fault of the evil white capitalist.

Maybe you should face the fact that losers and parasites are naturally attracted to unions and socialism.

Your constant PC posts on this forum are so predictable it makes you wonder if you're for real or some government drone with a copy paste spreadsheet. I mean, who else would really spend their time posting this dumbass pc bs day in and day out. No way in hell are you succesfull at any kind of business.
 
Detroit's problems dont stem from democratic control and unions. Thats the simpletons argument that comes from people who dont live in or near the city.

White flight after the race riots in the 60's left the city under black control and the city these days has an us vs them attitude, black vs white and the state. The auto companies have mostly left the city with high unemployment, relocating their factories to other places. Corruption is the biggest problem in the city. The politcians use the city as a bank. Look at all the shitty ass mayors the city has had over the years. So yes the city has been under democratic control but that is not the reason its in such bad shape. The city has no educated voters, blacks vote for blacks when given the option, black corrupt democrats have found their way into the citys leadership positions by exploiting the black population in the city.
 
Not as high as in other places. So why is Detroit the premier experiment, and not Burlington or Bridgeport?
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Ever been to Bridgeport?

It's where people from Detroit go when they feel like lowering their chances of being shot to death by half a percentage point, and paying more for the privilege.

30 Minutes north on I-95, you've got New Haven, home of Yale, bastion of liberal thought, and according to the FBI, the 13th most dangerous city in America.
 
Detroit's problems dont stem from democratic control and unions. Thats the simpletons argument that comes from people who dont live in or near the city.

White flight after the race riots in the 60's left the city under black control and the city these days has an us vs them attitude, black vs white and the state. The auto companies have mostly left the city with high unemployment, relocating their factories to other places. Corruption is the biggest problem in the city. The politcians use the city as a bank. Look at all the shitty ass mayors the city has had over the years. So yes the city has been under democratic control but that is not the reason its in such bad shape. The city has no educated voters, blacks vote for blacks when given the option, black corrupt democrats have found their way into the citys leadership positions by exploiting the black population in the city.

I hate to tell you this, but all of the problems you listed in the 2nd paragraph are the direct result of the exact problem that you're claiming isn't the cause in your 1st paragraph.

Really? What makes Detroit more of a "premier socialist experiment" than those in places like Vermont, Connecticut, or Seattle, San Francisco, or NYC?

Google "Model Cities Program" for more information. Detroit was the flagship for yet another hair-brained LBJ social experiment. Here's one article to get you started.

The 10 Most Taxed Cities in America | H&R Block | Block Talk - The H&R Block Official Corporate Blog

Not as high as in other places. So why is Detroit the premier experiment, and not Burlington or Bridgeport?

American Cities with the Highest (and Lowest) Taxes - Yahoo! Finance - #9 overall and without looking at the criteria I can tell you they don't factor in things such as what you get in services for your taxes. For instance, New York may have higher overall taxes but jobs are available, there are better schools, crime is lower and the cops actually do their job. So if we're being honest about the actual "tax burden" (cost for services provided) nowhere is as high as Detroit.

The "premier socialist experiment in the US" provides almost zero services? Wut?

That's exactly right, because they finally ran out of other people's money so now there is nothing left to pay the cops, firefighters, teachers etc.
 
Your constant PC posts on this forum are so predictable it makes you wonder if you're for real or some government drone with a copy paste spreadsheet. I mean, who else would really spend their time posting this dumbass pc bs day in and day out. No way in hell are you succesfull at any kind of business.

LOL, you haven't payed enough attention to my overall body of posts. Sometimes I'm trying to raise a point within a point within a point, and it would take forever to explain them. It's interesting though from a psychological perspective how angry some people get when circle jerks get threatened by a few sentences or just a link on a computer screen.

Is Guerilla PC? In the past, he has told Republicans on here that even if Republicans had complete control for the past 50 years or whatever, that many of the US problems would still be present and that there would also potentially be even more problems in certain areas. (These are far from his exact words, but he made points along those lines.) Now I suppose to someone quickly looking in from the outside, it could have appeared that Guerilla was a staunch Democrat.

What I was partly alluding to was a criticism of government AS A WHOLE, which is a position that doesn't fit into a partisan box, as it applies to both the Bud and Bud Light variety. Some of the Founding Fathers warned more about the FEDERAL government and about partisan politics.

I'm not going to worry what is or is not "PC", but last I knew it wasn't rather PC to even partially go along with the founding fathers on something. So it's rather hilarious to be called a "government agent" when in a way what I was suggesting is that the feds and state should have even less influence over cities than they already do. I've read enough of UG posts to know that he isn't pushing for this, but what a new person might think is that he was saying that the Detroit town council is so powerful and out of control, that Obama and the feds should get increased power.

Don’t Fall For the Old Divide And Conquer Trick | Washington's Blog -- This article is not about Detroit, but I would say it is at least partly related to another point I was alluding to.

Cherry picking as a means to argue for or against a style of government provides for a shaky argument. Point out government Version A success or failure story, and its easy for government Version B fans to provide a counter example. Debating or engaging in circle jerks, over the topic of which of two groups is more qualified to rule over others, can act as a cover for avoiding the topic of whether it is a good idea in the first place to have one group ruling over others.

No way in hell are you succesfull at any kind of business.

You spelled successful wrong, now go seek out some posts by Suddenly Ass or something to get rid of your butthurt.