Might be getting ripped off
- Thread starter adiakritos
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From the sounds of things, you raised the price from $150 to $516 without asking his approval. If that's the case, I'd be pretty pissed if someone invoiced me for 344% of the quoted amount without my approval too. If you're going to raise the quoted amount by that much, get approval from the client first.
Drop the amount, try to work with the guy to come up with an agreeable amount, and suck it up as a learning experience.
Makes me grateful for a few clients I have though. No quoting process even needed. They just say, "new site launching, needs this, this, this, and that", and I simply take care of it. They know I'm going to invoice honestly, and they know I know they're personality, style, and expectations. It's good.
Drop the amount, try to work with the guy to come up with an agreeable amount, and suck it up as a learning experience.
Makes me grateful for a few clients I have though. No quoting process even needed. They just say, "new site launching, needs this, this, this, and that", and I simply take care of it. They know I'm going to invoice honestly, and they know I know they're personality, style, and expectations. It's good.
Are you stupid? People repo a car because of non-payment right? So what's the fucking problem?
You clearly didn't learn shit in your "law class", if you have to ask this idiotic question on a forum... Grow some fucking balls. NO PAYMENT means he has no right to the work. What part of that didn't you get? Or are you just ignoring all the reasonable responses on purpose?
This is exactly what didn't think of. Thanks! I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear in this case. This is on his development server so yea, it shouldn't have any impact on his already existing business.
No I didn't raise the price on him.
What is more probably is that he wasn't aware of all the fee that were piling up, which I failed to make sure he was aware of.
So the first fee agreed on was the splicing. We both knew that was complete. I spoke to him about the 7 hours afterward and we agreed. Then I suggested my friends advice for a fee, and he agreed. So then combined the price is $516.
I hope it wasn't a huge shock to him, but whatever, next time I'll do it differently to make sure he's not shocked by anything at the end.
What is more probably is that he wasn't aware of all the fee that were piling up, which I failed to make sure he was aware of.
So the first fee agreed on was the splicing. We both knew that was complete. I spoke to him about the 7 hours afterward and we agreed. Then I suggested my friends advice for a fee, and he agreed. So then combined the price is $516.
I hope it wasn't a huge shock to him, but whatever, next time I'll do it differently to make sure he's not shocked by anything at the end.
This if fucking priceless. Young generation doesnt know what Google Hammer is.
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No apparently it was $516 to splice a PDF "design" and integrate it into wordpress. I'm still really lost what he's talking about here, but apparently that was what it was.
You own the design. Technically, even if he pays you you'll still own the design. Unless you have a contract that states he owns the copyright to it he's buying a license. With that said if he doesn't pay issue a take down notice to his host.
Designer did a site for me once charged 650 for 1 page lander, this was a while ago, I paid half upfront. He copy and pasted another pages lander. When I discussed this with him he got all mad and forgot I was the customer and assumed by being a dick I would just back down.
So correction Research the designer portfolio before you prepay for shit. Don't think that designers can't be just as big of a jack ass as the client.
Edit: Oh yeah I agree with the others who says take it down, However save it and if he confronts you say when you pay the invoice you will get it back. Try to get a signed contract before you do any designer work for people in the future.
In the future clearly retain rights to the work until payment has been received. Even then retain rights to it and license it to them.
Delete it. What's he going to do, take you to court? Not likely.
Delete it. What's he going to do, take you to court? Not likely.
In the future don't do work you are going to bill for without letting the client know what you are doing and how much you expect it to cost. Also be sure the client knows if the cost is a fixed cost or an estimate, and if an estimate you should provide a possible overage hour range too.
Because a client asks for something still doesn't mean they understand it's not part of the initial project quote, and often are surprised if they are billed more. You need to be 100% up front and clear about what your quote covers and the cost, and then when more work is requested if it's outside that scope provide another quote or tell them you will be hourly and estimate it to take 3-4 hours. Etc.
You can handle this in many ways but being up front about it solves most of the issues.
If you didn't let them know about additional charges then only invoice the actual amount, and delete the site until they pay for it.
Even if they paid you 50% and shafted you on the rest I'd still delete it!
Because a client asks for something still doesn't mean they understand it's not part of the initial project quote, and often are surprised if they are billed more. You need to be 100% up front and clear about what your quote covers and the cost, and then when more work is requested if it's outside that scope provide another quote or tell them you will be hourly and estimate it to take 3-4 hours. Etc.
You can handle this in many ways but being up front about it solves most of the issues.
If you didn't let them know about additional charges then only invoice the actual amount, and delete the site until they pay for it.
Even if they paid you 50% and shafted you on the rest I'd still delete it!