"Money doesn't make you happy"

I tell whoever says money doesn't make them happy to give it away to me, I'm here to take that shit, hide it.

Women need dick to stay happy. real men need money or they get into that bitch lane, motherfuckers fucking up the game on that holding hands shit.
 
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Things I'd like to do:

- Ski seasons in a few different countries
- Visit every country at least once
- Fly to NY, buy a muscle car & drive across the states
- Learn to fly helicopters & planes
- Train to be a chef
- Learn at least 1 more language fluently

etc.. and if I've done those things, then more will appear. The secret is to keep on achieving things, and smashing goals.
So you have to keep doing things to feel happy? Can't just sit still and quiet and just be happy? Sounds like you are setting up yourself for failure.
 
Happiness is a slip and slide.

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Money allows for me to live the lifestyle that I want to live. I always want to be able to afford to do whatever I want to do and whatever my friends want to do. When you have friends that can't keep up with you anymore, you know that no amount of money is going to make you any happier. None of the material things that you can do or buy are really fun unless you've got people to share it with. I don't really care about buying fancy materialistic shit. I bought the car that I wanted since senior year of high school 4 years ago...bored with it already.
 
So, do you do this alone?

That all sounds awesome but having friends with the same interests and the money, and flexibility seems to be much more challenging to acquire than making the $ to do all of those alone which sucks as much as sitting on your ass all day.

10+ years ago when I was college age this was a LOT easier than it is being 30+ when most are tied down due to commitments, and lack of money, and a 9-5.

Nope. Do a ski season and you'd have to be retarded not to meet loads of great people, and make local friends. You can go on expeditions, join ski clubs, all kinds of stuff.

There's sites that help you to form travel groups to travel countries with. I have other friends that want to do the States drive, learning to fly is a bit different, but once you can fly, you can join fly clubs and meet more people there. Chef stuff is solo, but you can cook for friends/family, host dinner parties. Language learning you can do along the way.

You don't have to do this stuff alone at all, whilst you may have to turn up somewhere alone, meeting new people and making new friends is half the fun of it.

My grandparents did loads of travelling in their years, and made friends all over the world. My grandfather is 92, and gets over 200 Christmas cards each year from all over the world from people he's met, that he formed enough of a bond with to be remembered year in, year out.

The stories he tells are mostly about the experiences he had on those travels, the interesting people he met and the various cultures he encountered. He's never told me a much at all about his job, other than where he worked, and the sector he worked in. He doesn't talk about the time he was in the office when he achieved xyz, or people he worked with, or anything work related what-so-ever.

You either do these things or you don't, but it's a misconception to believe you have to do them lonely, even if you're not doing it with a significant other, etc. It's just another excuse people use not to do these things. You have to step out of your comfort zone, meet new people and do new things.

Generally speaking I meet two types of old people, the people who are bored and have given up on life, who are full of regrets, and people like my grandfather who are genuinely content and feel they've had a great life. Guess which one of these groups dedicated their entire lives to a profession, neglecting everything else?

So you have to keep doing things to feel happy? Can't just sit still and quiet and just be happy? Sounds like you are setting up yourself for failure.

I can, yes, for short periods of time. I can enjoy a day doing nothing much productive with friends, or whatever else. I have to be achieving goals to be happy in the long term though. If I'm sitting around doing nothing for extended periods of time (weeks/months), I'm bored. I feel like I'm wasting my time and that makes me unhappy.
 
The articles I've read say that your happiness is maxed out at an income of around $80-100k.

I stopped reading here and call BS. Not on you, but those studies.

Making $80k-$100k a year doesn't get you any happiness if your working 60 hours a week and have debt up to your eyeballs. Even with very little or no debt, working 60 hours a week for this is still not happiness.

Now, im not saying you have to work 60 hours a week to make this income, I am just showing a point here. If I was making 10 million a year but had 9.9MM in debt and was working 60-70 hours a week I would still be unhappy.

The only way in this world 80-100K would max out happiness is if you carried no debt whatsoever so that the full 80-100k was spent on whatever you like ( also no taxes on that income, else your only bringing home like 50-70k ) and you had no restrictions on your time to where you could plan out what you wanted to do all day everyday.
 
Watching the finest ass while reading random STS shit

That makes me happy
 
Money its self doesn't make you happy. The freedom money gives you is what allows you to pursue things that do make you happy.
 
The lack of money causes substantial unhappiness if there are wealthier people to compare yourself to. Poor people surrounded by other poor people don't feel as bad about their poverty as you would imagine.

Money often brings freedom and security, in addition to quality consumer goods. If all you care about after accumulating money is making more money, it doesn't add much to your happiness.

And then we have stories about money causing misery and wretchedness. I'm always willing to read a story about lottery winners and how they lived after winning. The most famous is the true story of Jack Whittaker, winner of a $314M prize pot. Read that, and tell me how much happiness the money brought to Jack.
 
Happiness depends on your level of satisfaction and desires. If what you want is bellow what you can afford, you will be happy otherwise you wont.

Money is good but, if you don't have the right mindset it will not bring you the happiness that it could actually bring.
 
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The lack of money causes substantial unhappiness if there are wealthier people to compare yourself to. Poor people surrounded by other poor people don't feel as bad about their poverty as you would imagine.

Money often brings freedom and security, in addition to quality consumer goods. If all you care about after accumulating money is making more money, it doesn't add much to your happiness.

And then we have stories about money causing misery and wretchedness. I'm always willing to read a story about lottery winners and how they lived after winning. The most famous is the true story of Jack Whittaker, winner of a $314M prize pot. Read that, and tell me how much happiness the money brought to Jack.

There seems to be a correlation between intelligence and happiness when money is concerned. Lottery winners often get into trouble because they just don't know how to handle that kind of money, through a lack of both financial education and common sense.

In that Whittaker example, he won $314m and went to strip clubs without bodyguards, come on brah, asking for trouble. If you come from a ghetto and expect people you know to treat you the same that again is naivety that causes problems.
 
And then we have stories about money causing misery and wretchedness. I'm always willing to read a story about lottery winners and how they lived after winning. The most famous is the true story of Jack Whittaker, winner of a $314M prize pot. Read that, and tell me how much happiness the money brought to Jack.

I've found money to be a magnifying glass.

If you're an asshole and you get a bunch of money, you'll be a bigger asshole. If you're generous and kind, you'll be kinder and more generous.

Habits determine everything. For example, BlokBlok works out regularly, eats well, and has a good physique (yes, jeffery you do too, don't get all butt-hurt). If I were to add 50 pounds of fat onto BlokBlok's body, what would happen after 6 months? It'd all fall off because his HABITS (regular exercise, a healthy diet *Chipotle*, etc.) lead to him having a good physique.

So with these Lotto winners - why do they end up broke and in despair? It's not because of the money.

They end up broke and shitty because money was a magnifying glass... What type of person regularly plays Lotto? Someone who thinks that wealth is acquired through luck, is probably not financially savvy, and is probably not educating themselves on how to create wealth (since they're playing the Lotto in the first place).

The fact is, Lotto winners are typically broke - financially, mentally, or both. If you give a mentally broke individual a sudden influx of money, they are going to find a way to get broke again. Money doesn't fix a broke mind. Their habits haven't changed, so they will continue them regardless of how much money they have.

Like the example above with BlokBlok - if you were to take 100 pounds off of someone who is perpetually overweight, in 6 months, where will they be? They will be grossly overweight again. Why? Because they have bad habits (little to no exercise, bad diet, etc.)

If someone has good financial habits (saving, donating, investing, tithing, etc.) they are going to do good things with money - because they already have a good understanding of how money works properly.

If someone has shitty financial habits (overspending, overdrafting, payday loans, borrowing, excessive debt to buy "stuff") I'm willing to bet they end up broke no matter how much money you give them.