My Life Defining Moment & Motivation / What's Yours?

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Many of you guys are too young to actually have one so don't feel awkward if you can't respond off the gun. Everyone else?

What do you think was your life defining moment and why?

I decided to write about mine in response to the thread about doing two years of time as that was obviously the writer's defining moment.

Mine was moving across the country (to Chicago's Southside) with $300 and no place to live (I don't have any close family aside from a grandmother) at 17 years old just to escape an abusive household in Florida. I ended up working my ass off hand to mouth for three years until I made enough to pay all of my bills on time.

The gravity of everything hit me when I was walking alone through the snow one night in what used to be Meigs Field (It used to be an airport off of downtown, but at the time was abandoned by the city and just a HUGE, dark field of snow)[see pic].
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I had about $500 saved up and was already tired of selling financial products and couldn't see myself doing it for another 40 years. I was just trudging through the snow talking to myself (it was the only way to stay sane) when I looked at the city [see view]
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and realized that I wanted "THAT" (being the sense of wonder, grandeur, immense wealth) more than anything in the world. I then walked back home (about two hours in the snow), ate my angel hair & tilapia (it's all I ate back then), played chess the whole night while listening to the same Crossfade song [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZRLFpH1v6Y"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame] on repeat. I hopped in the shower around 6, caught the bus downtown to work (at a bank where I was the personal banker--pretty good for 18 years old), signed in on the computer, and then left the branch and walked to Starbucks on the corner.

By then it was 9-10am and Starbucks had died down as most of the commuters were already at work. I ordered a Vanilla Latte (the only thing I ever ordered) and didn't touch it since I always burned myself--instead I sat there for about 50 minutes with my head down thinking about how I planned on spending the next 40 or so years in "banking".

I remembered a mortgage broker I met who had over 100K in his bank account and thought about how happy he was...

I remembered all of the people that were business bankers and branch managers (the next logical step in my career's progression) and how I knew I was exponentially smarter than them and couldn't see myself peaking where they were.

Then I lifted my head up, chugged the latte and walked back to the branch. I walked over to the branch's acting supervisor (who didn't actually have any jurisdiction over me, so we used to shoot the shit when it was quiet) and said "you know what I'm going probably quit this job and start a business". Joel, who USED to actually be my boss (I was promoted for selling a lot of accounts in my first 30 days), looked at me and was like "haha, no you're not! Just get back to cold calling."

That's was my life defining moment.

I looked at him and said "fuck you, I'll do it."

Right in front of him I called my boss and quit. She asked me to sign my weekly time card and fax it in stating that I'm leaving early and I responded "you don't get it, the first part of quitting means that I stopped working before I quit". I got my things and walked out. That was January 14, 2006 and I haven't received a "paycheck" since.

BTW, I ended up starting a web design biz that turned into a mortgage lead business and did quite well by my third year. I moved to the wealthiest neighborhood in Chicago (it's called the gold coast) [see pics & wiki]
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Near North Side, Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and have to mention that one day while shopping with my then fiancee I ran into Joel, he was working in a supermarket banking center behind bullet proof glass about two blocks from my condo [see pic of my then home office]
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(pretty good for a self-made 20 year old who lived in a studio condo that went for about 300K back then).

I was wearing my then usual handmade suit while he was wearing the same old threads he wore when I used to work with him.

It was then I realized I made the right decision back on that day in Meigs Field.

I hope all of you guys can find your personal Meigs Field and never look back.

So again... What was YOUR life defining moment?
 


+rep nice post man.

I quit my job to work online too, but I don't think it was my life-defining moment. So, I don't know if I've had one quite yet.

Thank buddy, the quitting itself wasn't the life defining moment--for me it was the deciding I'm not going to ever settle for mediocre.

Ever.
 
I'd like to add that I ended up moving to Florida, getting a four bedroom house (which is a lot of room for one guy), spreading myself thin, and closed the biz when the mortgage meltdown hit.

I ended up traveling America for a year until I started up my new biz last December.

I learned as much in one year of failure as I did three years of struggle.
 
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Nice post buddy, very inspirational.

Chicago looks like a nice place to settle down, any particular reason why you chose it?

As for a life defining moment, I don't think I've hit it yet.

Still trudging along and with my break even campaigns, haven't been in the game that long but I hope to achieve your level of success some day.

Thanks for the kick in the pants.
 
My life defining moment was when I couldn't work my finance manager job at a Honda dealership due to lingering health problems. We went from $80K to a waitress salary in almost a split second, and being a dumb kid with a good salary, we liked to spend out money. So, while my wife worked a crappy job, I sat at home with a 1 1/2 year old and a newborn. And I said fuck this.

Started doing those incentive sites and made about $1500/month for the first few months and thought, I need to be the site owner to make the real money. Bought a site and got into incentive marketing and was making $3K/month within 3 months of that.

Once that site was on auto-pilot, I was able to build sites and get into non-incentive marketing. Haven't worked out of the house since May of 2007 and I love it. I am almost grateful I got sick, even though it still kicks my ass some days. I have more time with my family and a lot less stress in my life, since car dealership owners are huge pricks to deal with. Anyways, that was my life changing/defining moment. Instead of rolling over and giving up, I kept going (cue the corny music playing in the background)

Oh, and finding Wickedfire early in my affiliate marketing life helped me out a ton as well. I didn't know shit about affiliate marketing until after I got sick, so I was throw in the deep end basically and had to figure out a way to survive.
 
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Nice post buddy, very inspirational.

Chicago looks like a nice place to settle down, any particular reason why you chose it?

As for a life defining moment, I don't think I've hit it yet.

Still trudging along and with my break even campaigns, haven't been in the game that long but I hope to achieve your level of success some day.

Thanks for the kick in the pants.

I chose Chicago because it was a big city with opportunity and I grew up in New York and hated it, I thought I had family (an aunt and cousins there) there to make things easier... It turns out they turned me down when I asked to move in temporarily.

Chicago is my favorite city in America and the only thing wrong with it is the weather. I bounce between there and Miami right now, there's nothing as modern and spacious as the area around Millennium Park (hi-res pic: http://www.npe.org/db/pressdownloads/Millennium-Park.jpg).

I actually was planning on using my lead money to start developing real estate, but I'm still waiting for the market to bounce back a bit.

I actually had a rehab project under contract before I moved to Florida, I ended up rescinding my offer and just forfeiting the option money when I decided to move. I never shown anyone it before, but here it is:

It was going to cost about 2mil to rehab (it was an abandoned mansion about two blocks from me) and I was shopping for the money when I had it under contract I think it was about 3.1mil? Maybe more? I forget exactly, I fought like hell for months on the price before I decided to just get a house and expand the lead biz (glad I did though, I would of went busto as the rehab would of taken a year and by then the lending market TANKED).

The house:
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The plans that we had drawn up:
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The house was so old it didn't even have a parcel number with the city and was considered a historical site so I would of been able to offer the buyer a three year tax moratorium credit. I would of made around 1-2mil on it net if the market stayed up and I stayed in Chicago.

I saw it last winter painted and still gutted. I'll get another one when the market turns.
 
My life defining moment was when I couldn't work my finance manager job at a Honda dealership due to lingering health problems. We went from $80K to a waitress salary in almost a split second, and being a dumb kid with a good salary, we liked to spend out money. So, while my wife worked a crappy job, I sat at home with a 1 1/2 year old and a newborn. And I said fuck this.

Started doing those incentive sites and made about $1500/month for the first few months and thought, I need to be the site owner to make the real money. Bought a site and got into incentive marketing and was making $3K/month within 3 months of that.

Once that site was on auto-pilot, I was able to build sites and get into non-incentive marketing. Haven't worked out of the house since May of 2007 and I love it. I am almost grateful I got sick, even though it still kicks my ass some days. I have more time with my family and a lot less stress in my life, since car dealership owners are huge pricks to deal with. Anyways, that was my life changing/defining moment. Instead of rolling over and giving up, I kept going (cue the corny music playing in the background)

Oh, and finding Wickedfire early in my affiliate marketing life helped me out a ton as well. I didn't know shit about affiliate marketing until after I got sick, so I was throw in the deep end basically and had to figure out a way to survive.
I discovered wickedfire, shoemoney, yada yada this year. I figured out all of the same things you guys were doing through trial and error. This is a great resource, minus the dickrolls (which keeps out the dunces I guess).
 
Hey dude, nice post, I really enjoyed your story. I'll try to follow suit --

Exactly two years ago, I was a sophomore in college, and working over the summer at my second internship at Microsoft. I was in Seattle for the summer, which was a blast, a beautiful city lush with plants and fair weather (in the summer, mind you) and a nice getaway from my life and youth in Michigan. I was 20 and making $6700/mo and I was on track to graduate college, doing one more internship the next summer, and start a steady job at $86,000 at Microsoft all in the next two years.

Michigan, for those unacquainted, sucks. It's grey, wet and cold all the time. We used to joke that the only two seasons were "Winter and the fourth of July". When it's wet and cold all the time, and you're a introspective quiet geek like I was, life gets depressing and even simple tasks like walking up the street to McDonalds seem too tough and time consuming to do (putting on snow gear, and all), so half the time I just wouldn't eat. This isn't just my experience, but what every Michigan emigrant I know says as well. I had to get out of Michigan, and I was sick of paying for college loans when I didn't even go to class. I didn't go to class because I thought I knew everything -- which is silly -- but instead of using the time I saved for anything constructive, I partied lots, like you're supposed to in college. I don't regret this one bit, but I knew that my options were to either a) stay in Michigan for 2 years and get the Microsoft job, or b) leave immediately.

I asked my recruiter if I could quit school and still get the job. She said, approx, "We will not hire you if you don't finish college. We have this policy so that interns won't drop out to get a fulltime job and miss out on a college education." Transferring wasn't an option, because I didn't go to class and my grades were shit.

I'd wanted to go to Burning Man since I was 11. Something about it screamed "This is where you will find meaning and reason" to my impressionable middle school brain. For 7 years, I'd "planned" and hoped and asked my mom to take me, but obviously that was unrealistic because my mom is disabled and a ordained minister, and I hadn't really "planned" anything, I'd just fantasized. I thought that was planning, then. When I was 18 and could go on my own, I put it off because it was the first week of my first year of college, and I didn't want to miss classes. The next year, I used the same excuse. And finally, there I was, sitting at the table with my Microsoft recruiter telling me that the only way I'd ever get that job would be to spend 2 more years in Michigan.

"Ok." I said, and thought for just a minute. "At the end of this internship, instead of going home, I'm going to San Francisco for 2 weeks to buy supplies. I'm going to Burning Man, and when I get home, I'm going to drop out of school and move to California."

And that's exactly what I did.

When I got to the event, that summer, I spent all week wondering at the amazing world around me, and how I'd gotten myself there by my own free will, and a damned lot of hard work. I dosed on the last night, when the man burned, and had some incredible revelations about the kinds of people I want to surround myself with, and human nature in general. I largely attribute this to be the day I lost the "geeky awkward nerd" weight I used to carry on my shoulders. Then I laid and stared at stars, and I won't ever forget what I saw -- I saw the culmination of everything I'd been feeling all week, that I have a tremendous blessing to have so many resources and talent available to me, that I can build things most other people can't, and out of nothing but electrons, and that if I want something bad enough, and act on it, I will achieve whatever I want to in life. And then, I decided that what I really want from life is to go back to that festival for one week every year, and spend the other 51 weeks busting my ass so I can take as much of my creation and art out to the desert as I can, to share with others and to set it all on fire at the end of the week.

Dropped out of school, moved to San Diego, worked at a4d and then bevo, and here I am now, heading out to the desert for my third year in a short six weeks. :)
 
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was about 14/15 in a single parent household and one day we had *no* money. literally. i thought "fuck this" and wanted to do something about it - no idea what. luckily this co-insided with my cousin telling me about domain names, so I jumped on that and was buying/flipping domains at that age making around £100 a week. doesn't sound like a lot, but it literally put the food on the table and paid bills. i guess being flat broke was my defining moment, never wanna feel that way again.

great story op, branching out at that age with $300 and making something of yourself is a great achievement.
 
Hey dude, nice post, I really enjoyed your story. I'll try to follow suit --

Exactly two years ago, I was a sophomore in college, and working over the summer at my second internship at Microsoft. I was in Seattle for the summer, which was a blast, a beautiful city lush with plants and fair weather (in the summer, mind you) and a nice getaway from my life and youth in Michigan. I was 20 and making $6700/mo and I was on track to graduate college, doing one more internship the next summer, and start a steady job at $86,000 at Microsoft all in the next two years.

Michigan, for those unacquainted, sucks. It's grey, wet and cold all the time. We used to joke that the only two seasons were "Winter and the fourth of July". When it's wet and cold all the time, and you're a introspective quiet geek like I was, life gets depressing and even simple tasks like walking up the street to McDonalds seem too tough and time consuming to do (putting on snow gear, and all), so half the time I just wouldn't eat. This isn't just my experience, but what every Michigan emigrant I know says as well. I had to get out of Michigan, and I was sick of paying for college loans when I didn't even go to class. I didn't go to class because I thought I knew everything -- which is silly -- but instead of using the time I saved for anything constructive, I partied lots, like you're supposed to in college. I don't regret this one bit, but I knew that my options were to either a) stay in Michigan for 2 years and get the Microsoft job, or b) leave immediately.

I asked my recruiter if I could quit school and still get the job. She said, approx, "We will not hire you if you don't finish college. We have this policy so that interns won't drop out to get a fulltime job and miss out on a college education." Transferring wasn't an option, because I didn't go to class and my grades were shit.

I'd wanted to go to Burning Man since I was 11. Something about it screamed "This is where you will find meaning and reason" to my impressionable middle school brain. For 7 years, I'd "planned" and hoped and asked my mom to take me, but obviously that was unrealistic because my mom is disabled and a ordained minister, and I hadn't really "planned" anything, I'd just fantasized. I thought that was planning, then. When I was 18 and could go on my own, I put it off because it was the first week of my first year of college, and I didn't want to miss classes. The next year, I used the same excuse. And finally, there I was, sitting at the table with my Microsoft recruiter telling me that the only way I'd ever get that job would be to spend 2 more years in Michigan.

"Ok." I said, and thought for just a minute. "At the end of this internship, instead of going home, I'm going to San Francisco for 2 weeks to buy supplies. I'm going to Burning Man, and when I get home, I'm going to drop out of school and move to California."

And that's exactly what I did.

When I got to the event, that summer, I spent all week wondering at the amazing world around me, and how I'd gotten myself there by my own free will, and a damned lot of hard work. I dosed on the last night, when the man burned, and had some incredible revelations about the kinds of people I want to surround myself with, and human nature in general. I largely attribute this to be the day I lost the "geeky awkward nerd" weight I used to carry on my shoulders. Then I laid and stared at stars, and I won't ever forget what I saw -- I saw the culmination of everything I'd been feeling all week, that I have a tremendous blessing to have so many resources and talent available to me, that I can build things most other people can't, and out of nothing but electrons, and that if I want something bad enough, and act on it, I will achieve whatever I want to in life. And then, I decided that what I really want from life is to go back to that festival for one week every year, and spend the other 51 weeks busting my ass so I can take as much of my creation and art out to the desert as I can, to share with others and to set it all on fire at the end of the week.

Dropped out of school, moved to San Diego, worked at a4d and then bevo, and here I am now, heading out to the desert for my third year in a short six weeks. :)

First thoughts, Michigan... LOL, the only fun I had there was at the Four Winds Casino... And even that was the most depressing Casino I've been in.

The burning man event sounds like something that I NEED to experience before I die. I'm going to read the wiki twice then google it.

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nice post op

quite a few "moments" in my life but 4 stand out.
Should also point out that I have walked out of every job i've ever had as i fucking hate working for other people.

moments/motivation/whatever you want to call them

1) collapsing in a nightclub toilet and almost dying--quit taking drugs apart from pot after that scary fucker, now totally drug free for 5 yrs

2) my first ltd co. was involved in a UK govt grants scheme (legit govt grants) made more money in the first week than i had in years went debt free in about a month hired the biggest boat in scottish waters and went on a weekend sailing that cost about $25k, think champagne, caviar, smoked salmon etc.
basically ran a door 2 door sign up team of 50 guys doing hundreds of sign ups a day for homestudy IT training courses paying out at $200 a pop and free to the customer.

think berries on crack

within 2 months i was the largest buyer of for dummies books in the uk and the largest post office customer in scotland. also the largest IT training co in Scotland
would have retired inside the year.......
Then one day get an email from the govt telling me that and i quote "due to the unprecedented sucess of the scheme it is immediately closed" well that and the fact fraud was off the scale.
FUUUUCCCKKKK
from fucking hero to zero in 1 email, govt announced a change of law within a few weeks that you couldnt sue them if they closed the scheme so all money owed was kept by them, my suppliers however went bat shit crazy and i still had to pay them and the staff.
completely wiped me out within 2 months, just avoided bankruptcy (in scotland its a real bitch and not really an option) lost several stone a lot of hair etc, you get the picture

leason learnt---never trust or work with the government, always have a plan b c and d, some fuckwit will always screw things up for everyone so be prepared and mainly I did it once i can do it again!

ps company was called fema-it....Fuck'Em All and to this day i'm still owed a fuck ton of money i'll never see from my government

3) not long after the above i was managing a phones 4 u mobile phone shop, making good money but just couldnt hack it, walked out one day after telling my boss to screw himself. a week later i was on a plane to dubai with about $3000, a suitcase and a big set of balls and hope.
within 2 years i was running my own company again

leson learnt, with fucking big balls and a will to succeed anything is possible

4) had this one just the other day. AM is no different from my fuck off big business that nearly retired and killed my.
an insane amount of fuck off hard work but potentially insane rewards, payouts can be similar but instead of door knocking I'm on your lcd.
bring it on bitches i have a fucking plan....
 
nice post op

quite a few "moments" in my life but 4 stand out.
Should also point out that I have walked out of every job i've ever had as i fucking hate working for other people.

moments/motivation/whatever you want to call them

1) collapsing in a nightclub toilet and almost dying--quit taking drugs apart from pot after that scary fucker, now totally drug free for 5 yrs

2) my first ltd co. was involved in a UK govt grants scheme (legit govt grants) made more money in the first week than i had in years went debt free in about a month hired the biggest boat in scottish waters and went on a weekend sailing that cost about $25k, think champagne, caviar, smoked salmon etc.
basically ran a door 2 door sign up team of 50 guys doing hundreds of sign ups a day for homestudy IT training courses paying out at $200 a pop and free to the customer.

think berries on crack

within 2 months i was the largest buyer of for dummies books in the uk and the largest post office customer in scotland. also the largest IT training co in Scotland
would have retired inside the year.......
Then one day get an email from the govt telling me that and i quote "due to the unprecedented sucess of the scheme it is immediately closed" well that and the fact fraud was off the scale.
FUUUUCCCKKKK
from fucking hero to zero in 1 email, govt announced a change of law within a few weeks that you couldnt sue them if they closed the scheme so all money owed was kept by them, my suppliers however went bat shit crazy and i still had to pay them and the staff.
completely wiped me out within 2 months, just avoided bankruptcy (in scotland its a real bitch and not really an option) lost several stone a lot of hair etc, you get the picture

leason learnt---never trust or work with the government, always have a plan b c and d, some fuckwit will always screw things up for everyone so be prepared and mainly I did it once i can do it again!

ps company was called fema-it....Fuck'Em All and to this day i'm still owed a fuck ton of money i'll never see from my government

3) not long after the above i was managing a phones 4 u mobile phone shop, making good money but just couldnt hack it, walked out one day after telling my boss to screw himself. a week later i was on a plane to dubai with about $3000, a suitcase and a big set of balls and hope.
within 2 years i was running my own company again

leson learnt, with fucking big balls and a will to succeed anything is possible

4) had this one just the other day. AM is no different from my fuck off big business that nearly retired and killed my.
an insane amount of fuck off hard work but potentially insane rewards, payouts can be similar but instead of door knocking I'm on your lcd.
bring it on bitches i have a fucking plan....
Damn, 3K and Dubai? Your balls are bigger than mine, I hope mine swell up like that REAL QUICK!

I need to meet up with you and go racing.

PMing
 
Awesome story!

Ive had one life defining moment I think.

Some backstory. Back in my early teenage years, I was quite the shy beta of nervousness. Didn't have a clue as to who I was. People that I knew treated me pretty bad and I never had that person in my life that teaches you the good shit you need to know. Ya know, like an older brother. So at 16, I decided to GTFO. Aiming for New York City.

I found a traveling job, and through that experience reversed all the shit thinking Ive been taught over my whole life, and finally after 9 months of knockin doors opened the van door to see the lights of Manhattan. I fuckin made it. I had an epiphany that told me this chapter of my life is over.

I quit that shit job the very next week and flew back to California, took a girls V-Card first day home, and found out about AM soon thereafter.

Face your fears. Impossible is nothing.