My SESscout Review/Experience...This is the TRUTH

belko002

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I’ll go ahead and tell you that my experience with SEScout (SES) has not been a great one. I do think it has it’s purposes but only as a secondary tool and here’s a list of reasons why.

1.) Yesterday I went to check my rankings and ALL of my rankings jumped at least 200 spots…that’s right…all of them. They’re all hosted on the same IP but for the most gray is as close to black as I get. Regardless, my first thought was SHIT! I just got whacked with a penalty on one of the domains and they connected with all of the domains on that IP. But I had NO idea which domain it was so I immediately start freaking out, looking at all of my link profiles, etc, etc. After about 5 hours of angst, I decide I will manually check each domain even though they’re scattered from about 250-450. As I check the first one…BOOM…I’m still on the first page…right where I was the day before. I continue to check and the same is true. I realize that I should have immediately checked them manually but when you see a drop that huge across 40 domains hosted on the same IP it only makes sense that something bad has happened…plus, who wants to check a ranking of 435? Anyways, the rankings are still all over the place in SESscout and WAY, WAY off. I could go on about how bad off the software can be at times.

2.) Don’t give me this “BETA” shit when I’m paying you! - I’ve noticed a lot of service providers are starting to do this. They charge you for a service and then tell you it’s in beta any time there’s a problem. Alpha, Beta, Theta…I don’t give a shit if you’re charging me for the service. Beta’s are supposed to be free. Think about it? People run betas so they can get the help of other users to find bugs so they can then sell to the public. I’m sure if the owner was to say, “hey…I’m going to offer free beta trials to X # of users until we get the bugs out” then plenty of folks would line up and provide excellent feedback. But instead, the developers got greedy and asked people to pay so they could do them a favor. It’s like…“Excuse me…I’m testing this elevator. If you pay me $10, I’ll let you ride it rather ride that other, free elevator. But don’t forget…that other elevator is a LOT slower so you should pay me instead. Oh and one last thing…It’s very likely that something will go wrong during your ride up so please push the alarm button any time somthething does and we’ll take note of it. Thanks!”

3.) If you’re going to charge me, offer customer support - on the UI, there’s a button that says “Contact Us”, where you can write an email to the dev team if there’s a problem. (But only after he’s begged you not to email him in the preceding paragraph…hah) Anyways, generally when you use a “Contact Us” button, you’re saying, “Hey contact us and we’ll get right back to you as soon as we can!”, but not here…the Contact Us button means, “We just put this here to create a facad of customer support…We might read your email, but we’re definitely not going to respond.” Why do I know this? Because I’ve sent at least 5 emails with specific questions (which aren’t answered in the FAQ or anywhere else on the site) and I have yet to get a single response.

4.) I actually just saw (as I was writing this post) where the director posted a blog post chastising those who were impatient. Hey brainiac…next time you send everyone’s rankings to the fucking moon, why don’t you put up a post warning people so they don’t waist half a day freaking out rather than making a post where you mock those who may have contacted you asking what was going on?

I don’t have time to keep going right this second, but I’ve got so much evidence (via screenshots) of how inaccurate this thing has been and I could tell you more stories about how customer support literally doesn’t exists.

The guys who make this may be good folks, but I would suggest not charging people until you provide them with consistent service. And to all of those considering using SESScout I would HIGHLY suggest you wait until the bugs are worked out. You can use Raven for free for a month without a credit card and it’s tracker has more features and is better in the first place…it just only updates weekly. If nothing else, have all of your sites and keywords in BOTH raven and SES so you can check Raven to make sure SES hasn’t just gone haywire AGAIN.
 
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yeah... i mean...

Okay since OP is basically anon-a-noob

I'll throw my 2cents in...

Here goes:

1) I don't pay for the service.

2) I don't pay for the service because it's in beta and I have other ways of tracking my rankings - Market Samauri and SEOBooks toolbar - none of which are 100% accurate

3) Ranking trackers are always going be off on some days. Google pushes out a new update - things fuck up.

4) It was like one day's results that got screwed up [insert-omg-wtf-panic.jpg]

5) That said, the way it was handled was a customer service fail 101. We don't give a fuck how hard or expensive it is for you to fix. Just tell us that you're working with diligence and don't bitch about people bitching at you.... since as OP illustrates that pisses paying customers off.

this is complete Fail:

Google results should be looking a lot better for everyone now. I know it may be hard to believe, but all of the incorrect rankings were due to a new change that will make your rankings MORE accurate. I am still monitoring new data and making sure we are still on track.
We are currently scraping a few million google pages an hour for our users. This means that there is no way to test changes to our system and still get new data in within the normal hourly update window. Normally with a web app you would have a testing environment and a live one. SEscout is a super expensive web app to run and we really don't make a huge profit off of each user (looking at you people who claim we are too expensive) so doubling our production environment simply for testing just isn't an option. We are thinking of ways to handle this issue....
Anyways, thanks for everyone's most of your patience.

Sooo..... I'd pull it down if i were you and just say.

"Our bad. We're working on it"
 
I don't understand how we could have made it any more clear to our users that things obviously weren't working as intended and that we were working on a fix. We posted a blog on the site, responded to every customer bug report and email, replied in the forum several times. Do you want a personal email? It just seems a bit over the top to me.

OP greatly exaggerated his claims of "Because I’ve sent at least 5 emails with specific questions". He has sent a total of TWO feedback reports. One of which was last night (yes we sleep) and replied to early this morning. The other of which was several weeks back and to be completely honest, a non-issue that got overlooked.

It's a shame that you can offer FREE ACCOUNTS for people to test out your product for FREE, and still get threads like this.

Haven - Thanks for adding some sense here. Just to be clear, the issue was only for a few hours yesterday and a fix has already been rolled out. Not sure where the customer service fail 101 comes in. Again, we posted a blog directly on the dashboard, replied to every email and bug-report and posted all over the forum as I'm sure you've seen. OP expected a preemptive warning of things going wrong...
 
Sescout is by far my favorite ranking tracker. I've been a paying member from month 1 and things are only getting better.

My rankings are back to normal after the fix. No big deal. Keep up the good work.
 
It's a shame that you can offer FREE ACCOUNTS for people to test out your product for FREE, and still get threads like this.


UGH... really? What did you expect? People to blow sunshine up your ass and worship you for how great you are? People are assholes.

Go hire someone to handle this for you.


It's customer service fail because

1) Never blame the customer for being ungrateful. Hell..... never blame the customer for ANYTHING... EVER... (publicly). We're all ungrateful, greedy assholes, how you deal with that is customer service.

2) Never bitch about your costs, how hard it is, etc. Just thank people for their patience. We don't care we just want it to work.


BTW: I like your service... I think it is great. And plan on buying it after a couple more months as it gets better.

I am on your side.... really.
 
Just to throw this in, I don't think I've ever seen a service (as in pay per month, backend panel based service) that has fixed bugs as quick as they have. I posted, and 2 hours later it was fixed. Posted again and 3 hours later it was fixed.

Whoever says they don't have talented backing is FUCKING RETARDED.

#insert-signature-pitch-here
 
Just to throw this in, I don't think I've ever seen a service (as in pay per month, backend panel based service) that has fixed bugs as quick as they have. I posted, and 2 hours later it was fixed. Posted again and 3 hours later it was fixed.

Whoever says they don't have talented backing is FUCKING RETARDED.

#insert-signature-pitch-here

Thanks. Our children will be beautiful.
 
service works well, they had a hiccup yesterday. It happens.

I don't think a 5 paragraph essay was necessary unless this was some sort of high school english assignment you wanted us to review before you turned it in.
 
backlinkgurus, sometimes the correct response to an angry customer is simply "we fucked up, we're really sorry about how much frustration is caused, next time we make a big mistake how would you suggest we handle it better?"

I don't agree with the OPs comments, but perhaps I can make some suggestions:

When there are issues with rankings, add something very obvious to the UI to inform everyone of it. A little blue link on the left bar doesn't really draw attention from someone freaking out and staring constantly at the ranking list in the center of the screen. Perhaps take that 'USER ALERT' bar, make it red, and tell people the site is having issues with a link to the blog post.

When someone uses the contact form, send them a confirmation email that you received their ticket and someone will get back to you about the problem they are having. Without a confirmation email people might think they have hit a black hole.

Perhaps consider doing 4-12 hour updates, or give the user a default of 6 hours and let them adjust it to 1 hour if they want. 1 hour updates doesn't give you much room to work with as a developer, it costs a lot, and honestly, I think people just like the idea of 1 hour updates more than an actual need for it.
 
backlinkgurus, sometimes the correct response to an angry customer is simply "we fucked up, we're really sorry about how much frustration is caused, next time we make a big mistake how would you suggest we handle it better?"

I don't agree with the OPs comments, but perhaps I can make some suggestions:

When there are issues with rankings, add something very obvious to the UI to inform everyone of it. A little blue link on the left bar doesn't really draw attention from someone freaking out and staring constantly at the ranking list in the center of the screen. Perhaps take that 'USER ALERT' bar, make it red, and tell people the site is having issues with a link to the blog post.

When someone uses the contact form, send them a confirmation email that you received their ticket and someone will get back to you about the problem they are having. Without a confirmation email people might think they have hit a black hole.

Perhaps consider doing 4-12 hour updates, or give the user a default of 6 hours and let them adjust it to 1 hour if they want. 1 hour updates doesn't give you much room to work with as a developer, it costs a lot, and honestly, I think people just like the idea of 1 hour updates more than an actual need for it.

Thanks for the suggestions. We will certainly take some of them into consideration.
 
Fucking awesome serp tracker. As someone said above, there'll always be glitches and bugs with SERP trackers. None are perfect. [insert op is a faggot .jpg here plz]
 
lol...I will admit I freaked out a little bit too but something should have clicked in OPs brain once he saw ALL his sites dropped large...perhaps make notices more noticeable or better alert users if you are expecting an issue might be arising but yeah a 3 paragraph rant was not really necessary. With the way google works sometimes (different DCs, updates, changes to display, etc.) things can get messed up especially since the tracker updates hourly. If you want to use your other one that pulls your data once a week have fun with that. Been using this since the alpha and freakin' love it.
 
I'll tell you how I know the OP is retarded? He didn't bother looking at any revenue stats even after all of his sites tanked 200 positions. I don't care if I drop out of the index completely as long as I am still rolling in dem benjamins.

I'll tell you how I know the OP is retarded? It took him over 5 hours to figure out something was wrong. HERP DERP I AM THE OP!

Kgo.