New Providers - Your Going To Start Giving Reviews

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I may be way off here but perhaps Paypal could be useful.

There is a dispute system and these scammers will probably be using a new paypal account so disputing the charges would likely be successful.

Make the new provider use Paypal, don't buy anything fom non paypal - new suppliers.

Anyway, like I said I could be way off but just my 2c

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More thoughts....

1. Make it common practice that buyers with an iTrader of say 10 or more pay after the job is done with new sellers - that will put the 'scam factor' to the buyer and limit the effect on regular members

2. Make it common practice that 'trusted' sellers have a certain rating from x number of replies - this would protect the buyers and force new sellers to go through a 'running in' period

3. Recommend that new members buy from long standing sellers with high ratings - this would force new sellers to sell using thoughts 1 & 2 to regular buyers that pay in arrears

Anyway, just another 2c worth

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yeah, zingo's right. Reviews, reviews, reviews, baby. Looks like I've been screwed not only by Andersonjack, but by another seller who actually had a good number of positive itraders. I blindly trusted those itraders, but should have waited to hear some reviews. The privider went AWOL and a week later some reviews come back saying the service really sucked. Dang...relying just on a provider's itraders isn't a guarantee I guess. Only trust reviews. (Frankly I don't understand how she ever got that many good itraders in the first place).
 
And, Mods should remove the (-)iTrades left by those scammers to genuine members.
I saw zingo was given a (-) byAndersonJack and it is still there.
 
What do mods have to say about it? -- I'd think that giving a free review is really not a way to do business. As a service seller, I'd prefer a paid review ie bill the service provider after and only after you are completely satisfied with the work. I know what it takes to give free review copies, as I first did when I started my service, when I was new on this forum.

Zingo, I completely agree with you on this, but then some practical approaches would only bring harmony among sellers and buyers.

Also, sellers, if authentic, do wait for some detail and comprehensive reviews rather than just 2 cents.

Also, there should be a rule for beggar who sniff around for free review copies.

This thing should be given a serious thought to make this DP free. lol.

Anyways, I am in with you on this, zingo :)
 
I fully agree with zingo. +rep

A new service provider shouldn't have any problem with giving reviews and getting paid after work.
 
Another sticky thread. Personally I think, WF Business related rules are not forcing to improve the quality of selling thread. If we have a powerful mechanism to avoid these things, our forum stay as a good one. Otherwise Scammers will come from DP, Warrior and BHW to earn something.
Please take an action!
 
We have a dire need to make another sticky to post the names of members who use FREE REVIEWS but NEVER care to post a review. Anyone agrees with this?

Such members discourage providers to not give free reviews.
 
I am very late to the party and I apologize.


Say it's not so Ma!

faceblogger said:
And, Mods should remove the (-)iTrades left by those scammers to genuine members.
I saw zingo was given a (-) byAndersonJack and it is still there.
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What the big F, that's not right.



Originally Posted by guerilla
This is how a free market is meant to work. Everyone being on the lookout for each other and the community instead of relying on rules enforcement.
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I will be more vocal and vigilant.
 
jacky8 said:
We have a dire need to make another sticky to post the names of members who use FREE REVIEWS but NEVER care to post a review. Anyone agrees with this?

Such members discourage providers to not give free reviews.
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I think these should be report to mod for bann.
 
Setting specific rules like 'must have 10 itraders' or 'must give 3 reviews' will open the section up to more exploitation. If they have a number to work with, they will have that shit planned out to the last detail.

Also, itraders are just a place where someone can leave good, bad or neutral comments. If you are paying these people to create profiles, post blog comments and forum posts, do you really think they can't do the same with their own profiles?

A lot of what you're seeing is a few people having success with a good service, then someone else comes behind and tries to copy it for some easy money. How many LPs out there you see that have been copied from someone else?

While there are true scammers who take your money and run, the ones who seem to start out saying and doing the right things will sometimes get spotty with their communication; their English becomes more and more degraded with every subsequent message and you may not hear from them for weeks. This is what happens when you have pushed their expertise past their limits.

What they are counting on is that the volume will be high enough to sprinkle their crap copy/paste threads around enough so that on one notices, and so they don't get hit with more jobs than they think they can handle. Take this guy for instance:

http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo...ink-submission-services-review-available.html

He's currently working with 2 accounts, one a seller and the other a buyer. If you go through the histories, you will see that somewhere along the way he got it fucked up which account was supposed to be the buyer. No one buys from that thread, he will wait a few days and start another one. He gets banned, he will come back with a couple new accounts.

If someone does buy, he will probably go to DP and outsource it, assuming he doesn't get scammed, you may be happy with the work, you may not.

I guess the only real suggestion I'd have would be to lock the threads as opposed to the 1-touch ban and clean. This keeps them in the search results, and you can only spin a sales thread so much before it becomes obvious.

And if they are outsourcing, then they need to factor in a couple purchases to give out for free reviews as the cost of doing business. If they can't do that, then they probably have no business starting threads here.
 
jryan21 good post.

Another thing I do is run the O.P sales thread through copyscape to see if they are copying and pasteing from another provider on another forum.

You will find that a lot of new providers are just reselling a service and charging double here.. You run it through copyscape and find the original provider and buy direct and save.
 
zingo said:
Another thing I do is run the O.P sales thread through copyscape to see if they are copying and pasteing from another provider on another forum.

You will find that a lot of new providers are just reselling a service and charging double here.. You run it through copyscape and find the original provider and buy direct and save.
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I'll start doing that zingo
 
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