New World Order

guerilla said:
Most people are not very familiar with the intellectual farce that is Marxism. Marx was into historical materialism, and used his own subjective interpretation of the past to make predictions of the future and validate his economic theories.

The reason why it is hard to take Marxism or any socialism seriously, is because it all hinges on one key idea that was refuted over a hundred years ago by a Austrian named Carl Menger during what is known as the "marginal revolution". That poor idea is the labor theory of value. Because the labor theory of value is false, and provably so, all of Marx's economic theories are highly questionable, since their common premise is untrue.

This isn't a critique of Marx because I'm some raving right winger. As an economist, he was very poor, as a historian, he was much worse. It is absolutely nuts how much sway he has over catholic social teaching, university and high school level education throughout the world, considering that his ideas were already refuted before they gained any traction.

It's like if schools still taught flat earth geography today, regardless of the fact that such a notion has been disproved long ago.

Consider how amazing it is that religion, which cannot be falsified, is at an all time low in popularity and yet socialism, which has failed repeatedly and can logically be proven incorrect, is stronger than ever before.
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Making sense for a change.
 


cryptix said:
YouTube - America Freedom To Fascism (01of11)

The GLOBAL Elite and Banking Cartel run this Country. Just look at what happened to our Country in the last year - Banker Bailout, Goldman Sachs, Tim Geitner, Obama - holy shit guys...cmon wake up

The government has been setting up a surveillance grid for quite some time - cameras on traffic light systems, gps in your phone, ad infinitum. Big Brother, is TRULY watching everything you do. We all have database files that are jam packed with information about our behaviours. This technology will not make our lives better but will be used to imprison us. If we don't stand up against this tyranny, we are fucked.

Ron Paul
David Icke
Alex Jones
Daniel Estulin
Jim Marrs
Aaron Russo

^^ Listen to these people. Alternative News is the real story - FUCK MAINLINE NEWS - IT IS BOUGHT and PAID FOR!!

All you have to do to see NWO is to look at whats happening in England, Australia and China with the web and human rights. Every once in a while, go read their news and see what is happening. You will be shocked.
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Fuck off, retard, don't bring Australia into your idiocy. Yes, keep looking at China for signs of NWO. No wait, try North Korea, they're way ahead.

Do keep reading David Icke, keeps your kind out anything that might actually make a tangible change to the world:

The "Alternative News" for you:

Icke's core ideas are put forward in four books... Philosophical discussion about the nature of consciousness is intermingled with unsourced allegations against named individuals, including that certain senior politicians are Satanic paedophiles, and that the Swine flu vaccinations are a deliberate attempt to cull the world's population.

He argues that human beings are the result of a breeding program conducted by a race of reptilians called Anunnaki from the planet Draco, and that what we call reality is nothing but a "five-sense illusion," or holographic experience. The only reality is the realm of the Absolute. He believes in a collective consciousness that has intentionality, in reincarnation, in other possible worlds that exist alongside ours on other frequencies, and in acquired characteristics, arguing that our experiences change our DNA by downloading new information and overwriting the software. We are also able to attract experiences to ourselves, via good or bad thoughts.


Global Elite

Icke's basic argument is that humanity was created, and is controlled, by a network of secret societies run by a race of interbreeding bloodlines originating in the Middle and Near East in the ancient world. Icke calls them the "Babylonian Brotherhood." The Illuminati, Round Table, Council on Foreign Relations, Chatham House, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, the IMF, United Nations, the media, military, science, religion, and the Internet are all Brotherhood created and controlled.[38]

The Brotherhood is mostly male. Their children are raised from an early age to understand the mission; those who don't are pushed aside. Key Brotherhood bloodlines are the British House of Windsor, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, European royalty and aristocracy, and the Eastern establishment families of the United States. The origin of the bloodlines is extra-terrestrial. At the apex of the Brotherhood stands the "Global Elite," the same group identified throughout history as the "Illuminati"; at the top of the Global Elite stand the "Prison Wardens." The goal of the Brotherhood—their "Great Work of Ages," or the "Brotherhood Agenda"—is world domination and a micro-chipped population.[39]

Icke introduced the idea in The Robot's Rebellion that the Global Elite's plan for world domination was first laid out in the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hoax published in Russia in 1903, which supposedly presented a plan by the Jewish people to take over the world. The Protocols is the most influential piece of antisemitic material of modern times, portraying the Jewish people as cackling villains from a Saturday matinee, as Ronson puts it, widely drawn on by the far right and neo-Nazi groups.[40] Mark Honigsbaum writes that Icke refers to it 25 times in the book, calling it the "Illuminati protocols," and it is the first of a number of examples of Icke moving dangerously close to antisemitism, according to Michael Barkun—see below for a discussion of the antisemitism controversy.

Reptilians and shape-shifting

In The Biggest Secret (1999), Icke introduced the "Reptoid Hypothesis." He identifies the Brotherhood as originating from reptilians from the constellation Draco, who walk on two legs and appear human, and who live in tunnels and caverns inside the earth. They are the same race of gods known as the Anunnaki in the Babylonian creation myth, Enûma Eliš.[42] Lewis and Kahn write that Icke has taken his "ancient astronaut" narrative from the Israeli-American writer, Zecharia Sitchin. Icke's idea of "inner-earth reptilians" is also not new, though Barkun writes that Icke has done more than most to expand on it
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(wikipedia, bur just read his books for confirmation)


I can't wait til you fucks are micro-chipped, caged and fed to Annunaki babies, seriously.
 
^ And it wasn't hatched on Jekyll Island along with the IRS by Rockefeller and cronies.

Also,

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87b4a4a2wmY]YouTube - MINISTRY New World Order[/ame]
 
Dispel said:
Fuck off, retard, don't bring Australia into your idiocy. Yes, keep looking at China for signs of NWO. No wait, try North Korea, they're way ahead.

Do keep reading David Icke, keeps your kind out anything that might actually make a tangible change to the world:

The "Alternative News" for you:


(wikipedia, bur just read his books for confirmation)


I can't wait til you fucks are micro-chipped, caged and fed to Annunaki babies, seriously.
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Oh fuck off DIPSHIT. I'll say whatever in the fuck I want about Australia and you aint gonna do shit about it and by the way, I didn't say that I agree with everything those gentlemen I listed have to say. I certainly don't agree that there are lizard people running around, but I do believe that Icke has some other good theories.

You sir, are a bag of used douche. Get you fuckin Aussie pussy out of the sand. Lately Australia has been censoring alternative news media sites, as well as other interference with rights.

eat a dick with your latte in the morning, fuckface.



NOW - LETS HUG IT OUT BITCH
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZvarRe-XVQ]YouTube - Let's Hug It Out Bitch[/ame]

oh and - slam dunk on your head:
Australia's Communications Minister Stephen Conroy is all about censoring as much material as possible on the internet. He loved every bit of Google's compliance with China's and Thailand's request to have a search filter implemented that restricts people in the country as to what is available for viewing, this including YouTube videos that are in any way relative to euthanisia, safer drug use, violence and crime comitting (incl. painting graffiti etc.)


In his censor mad efforts to restrict more of whats available down under on the world wide web, Conroy has requested Google voluntarily provide the same filtering service as it does elsewhere. However, Google has replied promptly with a NO, explaining that all of the aforementioned topics are not illegal and YouTube already has its own filtering service that prevents more explicit (RC) rated content from being available.
Google has also indicated its desire to soon pull out of the China due to continuous requests to censor more and more material.
 
^ Yeah that airport has some "great" murals. Ever see the gargoyle coming out of the brief case sculpture? Eh, the murals, they look pretty f'ed up at first glance, haven't researched them too much. I've heard a presentation where the guy was saying that the soldier represents a super soldier, the rainbow a cocktail of heavy metals(chemtrails) sickening the dying children beneath him. Then.......I noticed somewhere where it was saying the children were collecting the implements of war and melting them down into implements of agriculture. Whatever the case whoever approved those in our current flight culture must have some balls.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
Wait, so you don't think the FED is in any way in control of the world? The same FED that prints money and answers to Congress when they feel like it and only what they feel like revealing? That FED? Yeah, they don't run shit.
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Grindstone said:
^ And it wasn't hatched on Jekyll Island along with the IRS by Rockefeller and cronies.
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Just so this makes sense to someone besides me. Too high to realize page bottom face palm.
 
hellblazer said:
Who actually has the mental fortitude to form their own ideas and not follow the flock?
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According to him we are demoralized and thus not able to properly make informed decisions. Furthermore he says that if this has happened as planned then the demoralized people will deny it as bullshit until it is too late. Would you agree?
 
kingofsp said:
As someone who sits on the board of the NWO, I can tell you with absolute certainty that nothing will preclude our righteous agenda from coming to fruition. Any effort to do so is futile (this thread, for example).

Now, stop concerning yourselves with matters beyond your control and go have a refreshing glass of tap water.
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exactly, cant be stopped.
 
Deliguy said:
He says they use conspiracies such as roswell and let them perpetuate to get people to look right when something is going on to the left....
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This.

I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Jones was part of it all, another distraction.
 
It's difficult to have a real, logical discussion about the subject because Jones and Icke will always be thrown in the pot just to try discredit even a single thought about the existence of conspiracies... whether it be NWO or UFOs or whatever.

Remember both of these guys are just selling entertainment.

There is no higher moral ground to "finally reveal the truth" - it's all about the $$$. That is their niche and they cater to their target market well.

I wouldn't trust news from Alex Jones like I wouldn't trust news from Fox.

EVERYONE needs to do their own fact checking and research, you can't take anything for face value.
 
I used to hate Alex Jones. Then I started listening to a few interviews he had for the guests. Then started to listen a bit.

Now I don't listen as much or at all if I am busy.

He rarely gives people a real goal and they achieve it.

It seems he might be a distraction or creates alternative news as a "boy who cried wolf" syndrome. Eventually you get sick of hearing about these issues.

Some other alternative news sources have considered him fake:
BreakForNews.com : The CIA's Internet Fakes

Some people he has pushed as a solid supporter of truth rally people behind them, then implode. 6 months ago Charlie Sheen is asking Obama to answer some questions:
Twenty Minutes With The President

It was pretty well done and serious. But nothing happened.

Now he is imploding as a wife beater, Bail Jumping, Work Skipping, now menage a trois with the wife weirdo. At least that is how most people will see it.

Was he set up? Or did he implode on purpose himself?

Lately there has surfaced reports of Alex Jones acting as an agent provocateur and making rational groups look irrational"
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjjU-s_nAKQ"]YouTube - Alex Jones is a provocateur??[/ame]

When Gov Candidate Medina started to get higher in the polls Alex Jones supported her and tied her name with 9/11 truth and she became stuck between truthers and non truthers. No mans land with dwindling support.

People should do their own thing and just beat that drum until they get the result they want.
 
A group of powerful families trying to control/expand their power is obvious as shit -- doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

So yes, NWO is true.

*gets whisp away into FEMA camp*
 
amanda11 said:
A group of powerful families trying to control/expand their power is obvious as shit -- doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
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Trying and doing are two different things. Takes a little more brains to understand the complexity involved, the fallibility of human nature thats stands against it and the cyclical nature of world history, which cares little for the wills of governments, secret and open organizations or individuals.
Shit, there's a conspiracy to 'end world hunger', quite a few 'powerful' people/families involved, probably led some pedo reptilian too and looks how thats going for them.
A good decade ago now I didn't understand these things either and was a believer. Understanding and knowing what I do now - about human nature, about history, about how the world works, about government, about secret and occult societies - I can only look back and laugh at the retard fest that has only grown more retarded around me with time.

Alex Jones is not 'working for the other side', he is merely proof that you have to be quite neurotic to base your life on such high delusion in the first place. I am sure at some point it was about pursuing his version of the truth that he believed in. Eventually he probably noticed the hole he dug himself, but by that stage the cult of personality had taken over. Of course there's neurotic and then there's absolute bat shit crazy like say, David Icke. Pretty sure nobody was home from the moment the Christmas lights came on with that one.
 
I agree with Jon as I've posted many times.

I just woke up so this post is going to be kinda sloppy.

What most people are posting here is irrelevant.

What the NWO conspiracy theory is really about is the Book of Revelations in the Christian Bible. Forever, Christians have been spouting bullshit and trying to link the current news of their day with the end of days. This is because they think they're special enough to live during the end times.. but of course no one else in the past was.. but they somehow are.. how special.

The NWO conspiracy theory has been around forever and is constantly updated. But at its heart is just the Book of Revelation from the bible and the ones who started the Legend were simply ridiculous Evangelicals. I grew up in the midwest and heard this bullshit all of my life even before the internut.

As soon as the first microchip came out christian doom-sayers started saying that the mark of the beast will be a microchip-like device installed in a person's forehead or right hand.. and it will eventually be required to buy products, and you can not buy these products without this chip (The mark of the beast).

All you really need to do is read the Book of Revelations a few times to see what Christians fear and what they TRY TO SEE AROUND THEM EVERY DAY. They want this fucking shit to come true.. cause then Jebus will come down and party time will start. And since they want it to come true they have a fucked up world-view and they view the world news through retard-glasses.

- In the book of Revelations it talks about there being a One-World government in the end of days. So Christians have been looking for that outcome since this book was written. The One-World government will be ran by the Anti-Christ.
- In the book of Revelations it talks about no one being able to buy goods w/out the mark of the beast on their right hand or forehead during this time. So the christers are constantly looking for this too.

Those are 2 huge themes from the book of revelation and there are many more that are also linked to this NWO conspiracy theory. Before the internut this story was mostly passed around by Evangelical magazines, books, and word of mouth. Now the story is all over the internut and it's transformed a bit to make it more appealing to non-christians as well. And then you have the NWO profiteer artists who have taken the story to new levels and made it more appealing to almost everyone. So now you even have many atheists believing in the story.

No one denys there are bad people and that some conspiracies exist. But the NWO conspiracy is just a load of shit that's been concocted to make people think they're living near the end-days as described in Revelations. There are also a many variants of the story because no one actually has any idea what they're talking about. You can tell this when they start pointing AT EVERY NEGATIVE NEWS EVENT IN THE WORLD and blaming it on the fictitious NWO.

If you have something good (like America) just give it a few centuries and Religion will destroy it from the inside out.
 
Sharksfan said:
Exactly what is it that Stanton Friedman "researches"? It's certainly not physical evidence of any kind.

He's a hack and a quack.
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A person can spend a lot of time researching the folklore for just a small town or something such as an unsolved murder, regardless of coming close to proving anything.

Quackery would apply more to original claims and not to someone acting as messenger. The Watergate reporters were relaying the claims of one person who wished to remain anonymous. Friedman passes along what he sees in government documents and hears from interviews. These aren't all interviews with random people or those who want to be anonymous, but the likes of former generals going on record with their names and Edgar Mitchell.

Aliens exist, but NASA covers them up says astronaut - Telegraph
 
cryptix said:
I certainly don't agree that there are lizard people running around, but I do believe that Icke has some other good theories.
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do share, considering all his 'theories' begin and end with the part about humans descending from and being controlled by the FUCKING ALIEN REPTILIANS?


oh and - slam dunk on your head:
Australia's Communications Minister Stephen Conroy is all about censoring as much material as possible on the internet. He loved every bit of Google's compliance with China's and Thailand's request to have a search filter implemented that restricts people in the country as to what is available for viewing, this including YouTube videos that are in any way relative to euthanisia, safer drug use, violence and crime comitting (incl. painting graffiti etc.)


In his censor mad efforts to restrict more of whats available down under on the world wide web, Conroy has requested Google voluntarily provide the same filtering service as it does elsewhere. However, Google has replied promptly with a NO, explaining that all of the aforementioned topics are not illegal and YouTube already has its own filtering service that prevents more explicit (RC) rated content from being available.
Google has also indicated its desire to soon pull out of the China due to continuous requests to censor more and more material.
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Well yes Conroy is an utter fucktard. A typical social Conservative Catholic, fighting against pornography and abortion - not exactly Illuminati material.
If he is part of the NWO I am motherfucking Grand Master Flash.
Social Conversatives in this country see the internet as having the same rules apply to it as other mediums, which is fairly logical from their perspective. Youtube to them is like just another TV channel, so they dont see why anything that would not be shown on TV should be freely and widely available to anyone on the internet.
Hey, one of these days we'll even have an adult rating for computer games.

Now why the fuck am I explaining this in the motherfucking NWO thread, fucktard?!
 
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