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Bush and others have tried for years to make that happen, and so would Romney and whoever else. Maybe she would focus more on it, but I don't think her being from Alaska makes much difference to congress.
Obama seeks more drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico - Yahoo! News
naw bro. :banana_sml:
the US is involved in more foreign governance/nation building than any other country on the planet. i guess you could say the fact that people don't like america keeps that aspect of us in check, which is good. but, more importantly, we also have wars on our hands. and they're shitty wars. who our leader is impacts how others - including our allies - view us.
if palin is elected, we'll only perpetuate the stereotype that america is full of mostly rednecks (like russia) and a few cool cities. that's no good. it's almost certainly not a positive thing.
it's not the most important thing out there, but really? not important in the least bit? anything that adds to our credibility in the eyes of other nations is quite simply a win/win for americans. there's no denying it! how could you say it has zero effect either way (if that's what you're saying)? american goodwill/positivity will always be a definite gain for all americans.
also, goodwill often comes to a country when that country is doing the right kind of things. so america being the benefactor of goodwill from other nations would imply we are doing the right kind of things. goodwill could be used as an indicator for our awesomeness.
He's doing the above for his re-election. His entire term he has been avoiding leases and the leases he has signed were for more useless areas and not the areas sought by the oil companies.
What was it? $10 billion in leases/yr during Bush - $1 billion for Obama?
What about the Gulf. He stopped everything. Fought a lawsuit to keep things stopped. Then loans, what was it, billions? to the Brazilian oil company to drill in the same Gulf. The Brazillian company owned by none other than George Soros.
Decades from now we will all finally be allowed to see and understand how George Soros has been pulling all the strings. From his control over Internet media to his crushing of the US economy to ensure the election of Obama. In the end it will all come down to Soros.
The oil companies are not forced to lease "useless areas", it is their choice. It can take years to figure out of they are useless and then years to actually get oil out.
The average person has little idea how oil exploration works and the Rush Limbaughs of the world love to take advantage of this. The amount of oil operations in the US right now have way more to do with past presidents than Obama.
The oil companies have tons of leases that they have yet to look at. Alaska terminated one because Exxon didn't touch it for 30 years :
Palin stands up to Exxon - terminates Point Thomson plan
Dispelling the Brazil Oil Loan Myth as Obama Heads to Rio - Forbes
He's only one guy. If you are going to speculate like this, you might want to look into :
Bilderberg Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Trilateral Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And : Council on Foreign Relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Soros is associated with that one and also Bilderberg, I believe.
Soros is associated with that one and also Bilderberg, I believe.
Yes it takes years and yes it is a searching game to see if a lease pans out. But the oil markets are also built on supply demand scenarios and on speculation as are all markets. The fact is the oil companies were not allowed to buy the leases they were requesting.
The fact is that Obama has said himself that he wants gas prices higher. The fact is that higher gas prices hurt the poor. People will be hurt, families hurt, the economy hurt. Higher gas prices cause irreparable damage to individuals. Obama's answer is that people should buy a new Volt. How can they qualify without a job?
Financial strain is the #1 cause of divorce. Obama's economy and his insistence of going straight to green energy over traditional forms in his forced manner will damage lives. And that's fucked.
Do not quote Forbes to me. I have been interviewed by Forbes and the story that came out was a complete hack job.
Both of these counter or at least put into perspective your Forbes article. Wall Street Journal and Oil & Gas Journal articles linked.
The fact isn't the extent of the loans. It is that domestic oil production is stopped and yet Obama supports production from other countries. Was the money to buy US goods? Yes. But why not allow US companies to do domestic production and also buy US Goods?
Connecting Obama's energy policies to divorce is like something Glen Beck would do on his chalk board.
snopes.com: Obama Lends $2 Billion to Brazilian Oil Company
Bogus Brazilian Oil Claims | FactCheck.org
snopes.com: President Obama on High Gas Prices
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“It’s not going to change the price of oil overnight, and it’s probably not going to have a huge impact on the price of oil ever,” said Mike Lynch of Strategic Energy and Economic Research, Inc. referring not just to those four leases, but also to expanding all U.S. drilling.
Analyst Lynch said that, if the nation took an extremely vigorous stance on oil exploitation — and relaxed restrictions on the Gulf and drilled in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska and off the coast of California, where America’s most easily accessible offshore oil is located — it still would not have much of an impact.
“With the exception of the deep Gulf, where there are restrictions, people are drilling as fast as they can,” said Lynch, who regards himself as a moderate Republican. He is bearish on oil prices and believes the cost of crude will drop soon, regardless of an government policies.
“You might, under really optimistic scenarios, over five or six years, add 2 million barrels a day of production,” said Lynch, who favors more drilling, even if he rejects the politicians’ arguments. “On a global scale, it’s significant. But we would still be big importers — we would still be dependent on foreign oil.”
And prices would not move much because of it, the analysts explained. Oil is traded on a world market, and the United States does not have enough petroleum to increase the global supply, which would reduce demand — and thus the price — for fuel.
“In 2009, the U.S. produced about 7 percent of what was produced in the entire world, so increasing the oil production in the U.S. is not going to make much of a difference in world markets and world prices,” said the EIA’s Martin. “It just gets lost. It’s not that much.”
Drill Baby, Drill? carbonsciences.com
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8D_j9fqfUg]YouTube - Oil Prices Today: NMA Raps on Crude[/ame]
snopes.com: Obama Lends $2 Billion to Brazilian Oil Company
Bogus Brazilian Oil Claims | FactCheck.org
snopes.com: President Obama on High Gas Prices
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“It’s not going to change the price of oil overnight, and it’s probably not going to have a huge impact on the price of oil ever,” said Mike Lynch of Strategic Energy and Economic Research, Inc. referring not just to those four leases, but also to expanding all U.S. drilling.
Analyst Lynch said that, if the nation took an extremely vigorous stance on oil exploitation — and relaxed restrictions on the Gulf and drilled in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska and off the coast of California, where America’s most easily accessible offshore oil is located — it still would not have much of an impact.
“With the exception of the deep Gulf, where there are restrictions, people are drilling as fast as they can,” said Lynch, who regards himself as a moderate Republican. He is bearish on oil prices and believes the cost of crude will drop soon, regardless of an government policies.
“You might, under really optimistic scenarios, over five or six years, add 2 million barrels a day of production,” said Lynch, who favors more drilling, even if he rejects the politicians’ arguments. “On a global scale, it’s significant. But we would still be big importers — we would still be dependent on foreign oil.”
And prices would not move much because of it, the analysts explained. Oil is traded on a world market, and the United States does not have enough petroleum to increase the global supply, which would reduce demand — and thus the price — for fuel.
“In 2009, the U.S. produced about 7 percent of what was produced in the entire world, so increasing the oil production in the U.S. is not going to make much of a difference in world markets and world prices,” said the EIA’s Martin. “It just gets lost. It’s not that much.”
Drill Baby, Drill? carbonsciences.com
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8D_j9fqfUg]YouTube - Oil Prices Today: NMA Raps on Crude[/ame]
and who funds FactCheck, MediaMatters etc? Snopes has been documented to not be correct when it comes to Obama and even Soros stories. Abundant info about this, documented. Find a real source.
As for oil prices. I hear every day by analysts on Bloomberg that the current prices are not from supply and demand. But by speculators because of the perception of future production. All speculators.
As for the previous post on Soros stake in Petrobras... it is huge.
Ad hominem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I can't imagine how they can be anymore frequently wrong than Glen Beck, or the other places that these type of views tend to come from. All news sources are often wrong. Snopes and factcheck list their own sources. The factcheck article links to .gov sites and Bloomberg, for example.
Factcheck is mostly funded by the Annenburg Foundation. Walter Annenburg was friends with Reagan. MediaMatters is a completely different organization.
Like the republican who wants more drilling that I quoted above said, the potential future production that would come from the USA having zero restrictions on drilling would still make nowhere near the impact that people think.
OK, enough is enough. I have to get some work done. If you want the last word fine but I am done with this for now.
Even Obama was affiliated with Annenburg. As for them being affiliated knowing Reagan. I have a friend who preaches in a Church things fundamentally opposed to my person beliefs. How does the connection matter?
If you think opening the doors to drilling and lowering regulations will not change prices then you are simply not someone that I have the time to cover fundamental economics and hence I cannot reason with.
You also stabbed at me for connecting energy prices to the suffering of the poor. And then connecting it to financial distress which is a primary factor in divorce. Is there any debate to what I have said?
Obama said in his election repeatedly that change would be difficult. That is great for him, a millionaire. But for the poor it is more than hard - it is devastating. Obama wants to reach his goals through tough change etc - the problem is he leaves millions of people to suffer so he can reach his ideals.
Slow market driven change as advocated by true conservatives, NOT Republicans, is much more humane.
You guys honestly think republican/democrat dichotomy matters?
It's like picking a fucking sports team over emotionally charged issues.
The only answer is something along the lines of a technocracy/anarcho-capitalism system.
Republicans are a dieing breed. In the coming ages the major parties will be libertarian/democrat, regardless of the name associated with it.
It's like picking a fucking sports team over emotionally charged issues.
The only answer is something along the lines of a technocracy/anarcho-capitalism system.
Republicans are a dieing breed. In the coming ages the major parties will be libertarian/democrat, regardless of the name associated with it.
You people watch too much SNL - And believe it's real life! lol
You post a Palin Gaffe video, and I guarantee you I'll match you post for post w/ Obama Gaffes. Throw Biden in the ring, and I'll match you at least 3 gaffes for every one you post.
I can't believe how many are so willing to show off their Koolaid mustaches in public.
Palin had above an 80% approval rating in Alaska - and that was from both Democrats and Republicans. That is until she went up against the liberal media darling of Barack Obama. Now look at the mess you Koolaid drinkers have gotten us into....
I guarantee you that if Palin were president, we wouldn't have no $4 per gallon gasoline. Bin-Laden would still be alive - but no one would care, because he'd still be hiding in his house like a bitch, instead of in heaven w/ 30 virgins. And we'd all be driving our Hummers, and having wet-dreams about being the "first-man".
You post a Palin Gaffe video, and I guarantee you I'll match you post for post w/ Obama Gaffes. Throw Biden in the ring, and I'll match you at least 3 gaffes for every one you post.
I can't believe how many are so willing to show off their Koolaid mustaches in public.
Palin had above an 80% approval rating in Alaska - and that was from both Democrats and Republicans. That is until she went up against the liberal media darling of Barack Obama. Now look at the mess you Koolaid drinkers have gotten us into....
I guarantee you that if Palin were president, we wouldn't have no $4 per gallon gasoline. Bin-Laden would still be alive - but no one would care, because he'd still be hiding in his house like a bitch, instead of in heaven w/ 30 virgins. And we'd all be driving our Hummers, and having wet-dreams about being the "first-man".
You are the one who brought up the topic of who funded them.
It can only change them a small amount and I quoted a well reasoned take on why this is so.
It's obvious that finances can influence divorce, crime rates, and whatever else. That wasn't being discussed, though. Bringing things like that up are often appeals to emotion with the intention often being to distract from the facts at hand.
Appeal to Pity
More stuff that falls under appeal to emotion. None of that paragraph helps show how gas prices would be any different right now if McCain was president.
There are plenty of facts to criticize Obama over, but there is also a neverending circle jerk of hyperbole, deceptions and outright lies about how bad he actually is.
No one gives a shit about Alaska's politics. My city has more FOUR TIMES as many people as that entire fucking state.
grammar lulz
