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rosalinda

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Hello guys!

I don't really know much about this. Did a little research online. My friend will talk to the lawyer tomorrow about this, but I have to ask. Maybe some of you know more than me.

Let's start with: I don't earn enough to justify an offshore company, yet, but thinking about it in 2011.


The taxes in my country are very high and growing each month and I'm thinking to move my business abroad in a tax heaven. Anyone has some experience with this? I really want to maximize my taxes before I get my company a little big. Remember, I don't know anything about it, so be nice :bowdown:
 


Warrior Forum Mentality? TO waste time researching or preparing for stuff that doesn't matter yet. Focus on scaling the income and once you reach that point, there will be professionals (available dime a dozen) who will help you.

BTW remember what my lawyer told me -- A place has to be a tax-heaven for you, not tax heaven in general. So basically there is no generic answer as what may be a tax-heaven for me may not be a tax heaven for you.

And yes, I have experience in offshore companies. And no, there is no point in wasting time on it till you are at level enough to justify spending time and energy researching it.
 
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Thanks Lord_B. I know I am wasting my time preparing for stuff that doesn't matter yet. But I want to scale my business and the taxes are too big here. I'm going to pay lots of taxes this year making my business grow slower, so researching for an offshore company is a thing I have to do. I was thinking to start an offshore company in 2011, but within the current condition I bet I might do it next month or so. So, it's not a bad mentality after all. Just minimizing the cost of running an online business.

Tomorrow I'll talk to a lawyer about the taxes and I think I have to make a big change if the answer is the one I "expect".


Again, thanks for your answers. I know that I don't justify doing an offshore company yet, but in the end I don't justify paying huge taxes and losing lots of money. Will see.
 
Just insist all your clients and networks pay you in cash, and have them fed ex it to you, problem solved.
 
For the moment I'm not sure. I don't want to talk about things I don't know yet, before talking to my lawyer. But, asking some of you where do you have your offshore companies, may help me to decide :-)
 
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rosalinda ayamor, i'm fckin bored. have you considered tax deductibles yet?

how are you going to get bank loans without paying taxes? it'll be harder right.
 
Warrior Forum Mentality? TO waste time researching or preparing for stuff that doesn't matter yet. Focus on scaling the income and once you reach that point, there will be professionals (available dime a dozen) who will help you.

BTW remember what my lawyer told me -- A place has to be a tax-heaven for you, not tax heaven in general. So basically there is no generic answer as what may be a tax-heaven for me may not be a tax heaven for you.

And yes, I have experience in offshore companies. And no, there is no point in wasting time on it till you are at level enough to justify spending time and energy researching it.

Did you mean: tax haven

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first of all, this is the WRONG forum to be discussing or getting help on this.

you can buy a shelf IBC (international business corporation = offshore company) which costs a bit more but it's available for you. You can even choose the dates of the incorporation ! So if you want to start some company but want to say to your affiliates we've been operational since 1999, well there you go you can buy those, but it will cost you quite a bit.

You also need to indicate that you need local representatives to own the company (representing you). basically, when some asshole comes around knocking they will see some foreigner's name who has no clue who you are.

What is the purpose ? Are you trying to cover your tracks ? it's best to setup IBC and banking in separate continents.

It should around 10~20k, possibly more depending on what you are trying to achieve.

IBC and offshore assets are certainly good to have, if what you are doing warrants it. You do not need to be a high roller to have offshore assets, it's basically like protecting yourself with insurance.

Also if you are looking for tax evasion, then you are pretty much fucked by posting on here and everyone else above is now an accomplice.

For me the best feature of offshore assets is anonymity and protection of your personal assets. Of course it's not a license to kill.
 
Panama is probably a good choice. Belize, not so much - these days.

Have fun actually opening a bank account for your offshore co - that's a bigger battle.
 
To open a bank account in grand cayman islands, which is a tax-haven, you need a minimum of $500,000 in liquid available assets.

Sorry rosalinda but your gonna have to do about 10,000 more orders for your blog network link building if your gonna be there any time soon.
 
BTW remember what my lawyer told me -- A place has to be a tax-heaven for you, not tax heaven in general. So basically there is no generic answer as what may be a tax-heaven for me may not be a tax heaven for you.

This.
 
Even if you set up an offshore corporation, if you're an American citizen, you'll have to pay taxes on all income. The only exception is if you set up residence in another country, then you can deduct up to $91,400 in income per years ( after the 1st year)

Before you waste time and money going offshore, get a better CPA who can help you with all the tax deductions you're probably missing which could greatly reduce your taxes.
 
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Tax rates are going up in 2011. If Congress does nothing before Jan. 1, 2011, you face federal taxes as high as 39.5% on ordinary income (plus the Obamacare surtax on high earners).
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Here’s a simple example. You contract with an incorporation company on the Caribbean island of Nevis to establish an international business company (IBC) to operate a Web site that sells discount toys. Let's call it "Toys, Inc." (Nevis happens to be where we incorporate a lot of IBCs…but it could be Belize, the British Virgin Islands, or numerous other offshore jurisdictions.)
Let's say that Toys, Inc. is a success. It generates $200,000 in profits the first year. If these profits represent the actual net proceeds of a genuine offshore trade or business, the entire $200,000 can qualify for tax deferral. Assuming you're the 100% owner of Toys, Inc., that means you could save up to $79,000 in federal income tax in 2011, at a 39.5% top tax rate.
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Rule #1: You Must Understand Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC) Rules.
If we go back to our example, Toys, Inc. isn't a U.S. corporation. So the IRS has no authority to tax it. However, in certain circumstances, it has the authority to tax the U.S. owners of a foreign corporation on income the corporation generates, with no opportunity for deferral.
I’ve boiled down the CFC rules into one general principle:
A U.S. person who directly or indirectly owns a 10% or greater interest of the stock in a foreign corporation in which more than 50% of the shares are held by U.S. persons can defer paying tax on the offshore profits of that corporation only on the "active" income from the business...
For passive income (interest, dividends, etc.), no tax deferral is generally possible. When you invest untaxed offshore income from a foreign corporation in an offshore bank account, securities account, etc., you can't defer tax on that income.
Even if Toys, Inc. does achieve tax deferral for its offshore profits, if it's classified as a CFC, there may be unpleasant tax results down the road. However, if you can defer tax on the profits for a long enough time, you may be willing to deal with these results, which include:

  • Profits repatriated to the United States are taxed at your marginal income tax rate. The 15% income tax rate on capital gains and dividends isn't available.
  • You can't deduct business losses a CFC until you liquidate it.
  • If you die while you're a shareholder of a CFC, your U.S. heirs lose the ability to step up the basis of the stock to its fair market value. When they sell the shares, they'll pay tax on their value when you acquired them, not when they inherited them.
Rule #2: Make Sure You Have a Bona-Fide Offshore Business.
The IRS also has the authority to tax "U.S. trades or businesses" that generate "effectively-connected income" within the United States. That means Toys, Inc. must be a bona-fide offshore business. Ideally, it should have a staffed office that operates the business outside the United States.
After you set up the company, your role (if you live in the United States) should be limited to being a passive investor. Toys, Inc. shouldn't have a U.S. office or employees working in the United States. Nor should it have any U.S. agents working exclusively to market or distribute its goods in the United States.
Rule # 3: Know Your Reporting Requirements
As you can see, achieving tax deferral in a foreign business requires careful tax planning. You'll want to consult with an international tax attorney before you assume Toys, Inc. can generate tax-deferred profits.
Complex reporting requirements also apply. At minimum, you'll need to file the following reporting forms:

  • Form 5471 (tax return for a foreign corporation)
  • Form 936 (when you capitalize the corporation)
  • Form TD F 90-22.1 (to report the corporation's offshore accounts over which you have signatory or "other" authority).
Make Sure You Understand the Benefits

When done properly, a bona-fide offshore business can save you a bundle in taxes in 2011 and beyond. You can defer these taxes and re-invest that $79,000 (in the case of Toys, Inc.) in your business. Tax-deferred growth is a major advantage of doing business offshore in a bona-fide offshore business.
Tax deferral is becoming increasingly difficult in a time of government “cash grab.” But there are still legal loopholes for U.S. citizens willing to go the extra mile. Those who will do their homework, keep it legal, and pay the price of setting up proper structures will benefit in the long-run.

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