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cashflowrusty said:
Do you end up with a whole bunch of adgroups, and a whole bunch of landing pages?
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Ideally, I want each key phrase and super close variations (think birthday party, birthday parties, birth day party, party birthdays...) on their own adgroup and looser variations for their own landing pages (think birthday party,happy birthday, birthday bash, birthday celebration...)

I'd love to hear eli's take though i'm not sure if he does ppc since his posts seem to be purely hardcore organic stuff.
 


I am really good at white hat techniques and i am curious on learning a lot of black hat techniques. I have done extensive research already on scraping etc. but i was wondering if you may be able to point me towards some excellent resources. Thanks,

Scottie P
 
Thank you for answering my last question. I have another for you.

Lets say, I have a new website, and 20 different 500-1000 word articles. Should I load the website with all articles right away or should I put up 5 articles, and add a new article daily/every two-three days? I'm trying to get the website to be recognized as a website that will be constantly updating, and not just a 'fly by night' type of website by google, so I'd like to know your opinion on this.

Thanks
 
NoelKuhl said:
Ideally, I want each key phrase and super close variations (think birthday party, birthday parties, birth day party, party birthdays...) on their own adgroup and looser variations for their own landing pages (think birthday party,happy birthday, birthday bash, birthday celebration...)

I'd love to hear eli's take though i'm not sure if he does ppc since his posts seem to be purely hardcore organic stuff.
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the tighter the grouping the better
 
Too good of an opportunity to pass up. Two questions:

1) I've got a huge database of businesses I'm going to inject as wordpress posts/pages (with the help of a friend using python). I've heard adding too much content at once can get you bitch slapped by the search engines and there are 100,000+ entries so I can't really do it all that "slowly" (or don't want to rather.)

Any advice/insight you can offer?


2) Automation is a mantra for you. As someone who either does everything manually or outsources, I know I need to learn PHP. But for the time being, in relation to white hat oriented sites, what are some things you would look to automate? And while Jon offered, "anything that takes a long time that you need to do over and over" I was looking for more of ideas or tasks that I'm not doing now or may not have thought of. But simple thigns. I'm guessing your response might be "read my blog" and I definitely need to dive into the archives but really interested in your response!

Thanks in advance and I'll be a broken record: you kick ass.
 
Hey Eli- thanks for helping people out here... good shit!

I've asked this on the forum, but didn't receive a reply and I was wondering if you knew...

If I have a flash banner that I paid to have put up on a site, linking to my site... does that link count the same as any old text backlink (at least for the time my ad runs...)?

Thanks!
 
Reefer420 said:
Hey Eli- thanks for helping people out here... good shit!

I've asked this on the forum, but didn't receive a reply and I was wondering if you knew...

If I have a flash banner that I paid to have put up on a site, linking to my site... does that link count the same as any old text backlink (at least for the time my ad runs...)?

Thanks!
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I'm not 100% on this, but I do not think that image or flash image links hold the same weight as a text link (hard link). Not 100%, but I'm pretty sure thats the case.
 
I'm almost certain on the fact that flash links hold no weight and aren't read. If you look at a site with a flash splash page and no other links or sitemaps to the rest of their pages, the rest of their site isn't indexed. If you're buying a flash ad you could possibly request that they put a small actual text link below the ad to your site.
 
Deliguy said:
I'm almost certain on the fact that flash links hold no weight and aren't read. If you look at a site with a flash splash page and no other links or sitemaps to the rest of their pages, the rest of their site isn't indexed. If you're buying a flash ad you could possibly request that they put a small actual text link below the ad to your site.
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thanks! have to rethink what i was going to do...

my understanding now is that a standard non-flash banner ad, with the typical a href= link would count as a backlink, while flash does not.

sigh- if only I could figure out a way to do what I wanted to do (CSS image map w/ multiple links on it- but as an ad on another site) without using flash, I'd be golden!

Thanks again for the help.:rasta:
 
trigatch4 said:
Too good of an opportunity to pass up. Two questions:

1) I've got a huge database of businesses I'm going to inject as wordpress posts/pages (with the help of a friend using python). I've heard adding too much content at once can get you bitch slapped by the search engines and there are 100,000+ entries so I can't really do it all that "slowly" (or don't want to rather.)

Any advice/insight you can offer?


2) Automation is a mantra for you. As someone who either does everything manually or outsources, I know I need to learn PHP. But for the time being, in relation to white hat oriented sites, what are some things you would look to automate? And while Jon offered, "anything that takes a long time that you need to do over and over" I was looking for more of ideas or tasks that I'm not doing now or may not have thought of. But simple thigns. I'm guessing your response might be "read my blog" and I definitely need to dive into the archives but really interested in your response!

Thanks in advance and I'll be a broken record: you kick ass.
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1. I actually talked about this torwards the end of my Power Indexing Tips post. I used to think the same thing. Slow growing works the best. Since then I've said fuck it and just started throwing up data like crazy and much to my surprise it hasn't had any bad consequences. So I say go for it, just throw it up and move on to your next project. However be very careful growing content with wordpress. No more than 5 posts/day otherwise I'm almost certain it throws up a flag. I've ran too many splogs and found that out the hard way. The way I see it is, you have two options if you're going to stick with the wordpress structure. Either throw up all the content at once or throw up none and grow it at less than 5 posts/day. I would recommend just throwing it all up. I also have large business databases and I have gone another route, by throwing up directory style sites with cats and subcats. That has proven to work phenominally. Haven't tried too much with wordpress with the regional databases go.

2. I have two really easy tips for automation for nonprogrammers. Using the previous question if you are using wordpress there are several that allow you to schedule future posts, such as WP-Cron. For the rest of automation check out Imacros for firefox. It rocks! It's also very easy to use for automating tasks. I use it all the time.
 
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This is a great thread Eli ... cheers!

How do search engines view a network of blogs that are subdomains of a main site (sort of targetedkeywords.nichekeywords.com) - would they penalise a few hundred WP blogs under one domain? Alternatively, how do links to subdomains affect the rest of the domain? Assuming they share an IP and are linked by a main index site.

Thanks!
 
Eli, thanks for taking the time to answer some question!

Do you think search engines weight .info domains and .com domains differently? I know for branding the .com is much better, but if the sole purpose is search engine related, are they both seen equal? What's your take on .info domains?
 
LazyHippy said:
This is a great thread Eli ... cheers!

How do search engines view a network of blogs that are subdomains of a main site (sort of targetedkeywords.nichekeywords.com) - would they penalise a few hundred WP blogs under one domain? Alternatively, how do links to subdomains affect the rest of the domain? Assuming they share an IP and are linked by a main index site.

Thanks!
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Awesome question Hippy. :)
When it comes to subdomains there are some very gray areas and some concrete truths.
Gray Areas:
1) Subdomains perform better than subpages. This is yet to be proven. There are definite discrepancies on how the main page passes link value and domain authority to it's own subdomains. You can put a subpage up on a main site with tons of domain authority and it can automatically do well. However if you put up a page on a subdomain of an authoritative domain it doesn't necessarily do well. Look at subpages of Blogger.com and other blogging networks that have no link on the main page or direct subpages, in comparison to the blogs hosted on the subdomains.

2) Subdomains are treated like separate domains by the SE's. It's almost conclusive, but have you ever had a subdomain on an unsandboxable site get sandboxed? Have you ever had a site get banned but its subdomain stays in the index? I'm yet to see it.

Which brings me to the concrete areas.
Concrete facts
3) Subdomains cannot penalize the main domain. You can get a subdomain banned while at the same time your main page never even flinches in the rankings. This almost conflicts with point 2 except that its logical that the relationship between main domains and subdomains may be a one way street.

4) Main domains can affect subdomains but subdomains can't affect main domains. Everything i've ever seen says this is true. I could build a thousand links to my Blog Solution sites and all the subdomains would start performing better even the ones that got pushed out of the scrolling main page index. Yet the subdomains performed very poorly per capita.

Which brings me to answer your question:
Since subdomains are viewed as a separate entity from the actual domain than their links are viewed as inbound. Since no inbound link can hurt you(google bowling), than cross linking subdomains cannot cause a penalty to roll across to all of them. Any penalties you recieve will stop at the point of entry, with the exception of course, the main domain. If that gets penalized, all get penalized.

So the logical thing to do might be to link all the subdomains together in a serial fashion. Then only use the main domain to get crawlers to key entry points within certain subdomains and push a bit of authority. As long as you keep the main domain very clean even if you start getting banned like crazy you can still produce and produce until they catch your main page being in on the scheme. Which can only be accomplished by some form of human check. Wordpress MU? May be an option :)
 
Wow! Great answer! So unless you have separate IPs there's no ranking benefit to having a domain per site as opposed to a subdomain then?

I thought about Wordpress MU, need to look at it more. I've have been talking to this guy about outsourcing it - he seems to offer a good service. This brings me onto another question.

How are RSS feed aggregater sites viewed by Google? I'm attempting to take content from different sources and combine it in a genuinely useful way for the user. Will Google recognise that a unique combination of content - though mostly duplicate - still provides value? I'm hoping that even if most of the pages get stuck in the supplemental results the unique pages of aggregated content should do well with a lot of linkage. (maybe?) Would these sort of sites get banned? I don't want a network of splogs, I'm trying to provide real value to the user. (EDIT: Just noticed sites like topix.net just aggregate news and rank really well.)

I've been playing with Yahoo Pipes for this - seems good, if a bit temperamental. For the same query sometimes the feeds show no results, sometimes they do. Not sure I can trust it on a live site. Have you any experience with this service?

Cheers for all your great advice here, it's really appreciated. :D
 
Hey Hippy,

Let me know how it goes with the blogs you're getting. I saw this guys offer here and over at DP. I'm interested and read some of the posts by others but give more cred to a review by someone I "know."

Thanks!
 
springer said:
Hey Hippy,

Let me know how it goes with the blogs you're getting. I saw this guys offer here and over at DP. I'm interested and read some of the posts by others but give more cred to a review by someone I "know."

Thanks!
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Will do. So far he's been very accommodating with themes, feeds etc. Waiting to here if he can do subdomains as opposed to separate domains for each site. I've been looking at Wordpress MU today though - seems like that might be a better idea long term for what I'm trying to do (if I can find a feed plugin that works with it).
 
My question is in regards to grabbing up keyword real estate, and a little follow up to your blog post and comments on it. Not sure if you are even still answering questions in this thread, but whatever.

Obviously most if not all of the highly competitive, robust terms are already registered on sites like blogspot and wordpress. For example, ringtone.blogspot.com or ringtones.wordpress.com. One of my current projects is a script (and I know a million other people already have this exact script) that registers keyword real estate automatically.

I have been registering longtail KW variations and sending links to pages specifically about that KW. For example, registering chingy-ringtones.blogspot.com and pointing a link to my-cool-ringtone-site.com/chingy-ringtones.

My question is this - what is your opinion on the use of one or more dashes in a URL? I have read many varying opinions, such as "oh, more than one dash and goog will start discount the value of the site" and so on. So how would you go about setting up these longtail URL's?

Furthermore, (I have only just begun experimenting with this) how far do you take variations? For instance, "nelly-ringtones," "nelly-ringtone," "ringtones-by-nelly," "ringtone-by-nelly" and so on, or perhaps sans dashes?

I am planning on be VERY thorough when snagging KW real estate on a mass scale, but I would be interested to hear your take on the use of dashes and at what point does the scope of the variations pass exhaustion (not useful anymore).

Thanks in advance
 
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