Osama Bin Bogeyman

[greyaisha]

 

[kingfish]

shit hellblazers doing TV interviews now

 

[gbmack]

lol hellblazer hellblazer lol

 

[EricVonDoobie]

The idea of him not being dead is hilarious. If he were alive he'd be the first person saying it on video.

 

[Scalped]

Spot on man. Spot on...

I guess theres millions of sheep and just a few sheperds in this world.

"If he was alive he'd be the first to show on tv he is..."

Man, ignorance is bliss.

Dont people still realize that media is in fact controlled and oppressed?

Dont people realize that WHATEVER you see on tv has ALREADY been censored/filtered?

Who cares if he died yesterday or not. Point is....why is it happening right now..in the middle of all this termoil?

It stinks of Shite. Big time...

Better keep quiet to not go against the "status quo".:bootyshake:

Here's the thing that's important about what this guy is saying, maybe Bin Laden died yesterday, maybe not, we don't know. Not a shred of real evidence (I don't count testimony) has been shown to prove that he was killed yesterday. From what I understand his body has already undergone autopsy and has been buried at sea. If the official story is true then why hide the evidence. I'm not saying it makes the whole thing a lie, I'm saying it makes the whole thing look suspicious.

The masses choose to instantly accept what's given via media, while a growing few of us choose to instantly question. I don't understand why it's taboo to question what governments feed us, as the history of governments in general have been both oppressive and full of conspiracies.

 

[Scalped]

Im with you on this.

I guess in the end its what one wants to believe.

If its true then as horrible as it sounds and I wish it wont happen but common sense prevails and potential terrorism will kick of again.

Ironically, if it is all just a "conspiracy", then terrorism will probably still kick of again.


I hope it doesnt but reality is that is very likely what will happen.

In UK they already mentioned on tv to warn police if any "suspicious" things are seen or left in streets etc...

Now people, once calmed down, will be shittin themselves looking at everyone as a potential threat.

Could be wrong and I truly hope I am

....

I guess you are right, lukep. However, still, there is a lot to this story that fails to convince a lot of people out there. The guy's been hiding for a decade planning bomb attacks across the world. And now, all of a sudden, he is dead.

Everyone would be happy seeing OBL dead for sure, but there are few things, which keep hitting me:

1. How, all of a sudden, his location was known to the US military after a decade of search.
2. If he is dead, then what will happen next. I don think any terror organizati4on can just be over with one man . Will they come out to take revenge?
3. If he is dead and was killed in Pakistan, were their any people from ISI or other local bodies involved in keeping him there? And was it an attempt to seek safety, as they revealed OBL's whereabouts?

I have a lot of things going inside my mind (way more than this). Sorry guys, for taking your time. Too much of it .

Hope peace reigns supreme and the world becomes a better place to leave with all terror organizations seizing to exist.

Regards

Army

 

[music4mic]

That's what I thought for the first 13 seconds after hearing OBL was dropped into the sea too... It DOES sound suspicious on the surface, to ANYBODY it would... It's so fishy it's quite obvious, even to 3-year-olds, that proof will be demanded by the entire globe.

(And Obama just showed us his friggin birth certificate 5 days ago, so I believe he knows this intrinsically.)

The bottom line on the proof is O would NOT NOT NOT have made the announcement without gathering all the proof possible before dumping the body. -Hell, I bet they kept the body too, just to be safe!

You heard it here first... O's got Osamas:

1. DNA-tested blood samples.
2. Enough pictures to fill a high school yearbook.
3. Dental Records and other X-Rays.
4. Helmet-Cam Videos of Osama's last stand... From every one of the Seals.

...At a MINIMUM. -And anything else would be political suicide and he KNOWS it. And so do all of the press, too.

Give more time before you cry foul next time... You'll sound just like Trump. :tongue2:

I'm glad you were skeptical for 13 seconds, that's a start.

In regards to birth certificate, it's already been shown that it's a photoshopped fake and a bad one at that. They didn't even have the type of paper it was printed on in Hawaii in '63... If that type of paper didn't exist and wasn't being used, then how could it be real?

Pictures... lulz... because it's impossible to fake a photo, right?

dental records... and who was his dentist prior to this? How do we have his originals... lulz

Helmet Cams from the seals... 1) where are these videos? Link please..?? 2) it's impossible to make a realistic looking film for the TVs.... lulz

Come on, none of that shit really matters outside of multiple independent verifications. This 'proof' is all stuff that 9 year olds with computers are making now. They either did it this way to create controversy (why?) or because it's BS meant to boost Obama's approval rating (which is at an all time low) and or garner support for these never ending wars. If it's for option 2, it's actually probably working, which is really sad in my opinion. Where have all the critical thinkers gone?

 

[lukep]

I'm glad you were skeptical for 13 seconds, that's a start.

But a smarter finish. One you'd do well to take off that shiny hat and follow.

In regards to birth certificate, it's already been shown that it's a photoshopped fake and a bad one at that.

It has, has it? Man, you gotta stop watching faux news. I've seen at least two different youtube films where people replicated the experiment as it was most likely to have been done at the time of Scanning and yes, it does break things down into crappy layers like the original video showed. -It was not a fake at all.

They didn't even have the type of paper it was printed on in Hawaii in '63... If that type of paper didn't exist and wasn't being used, then how could it be real?

Were you there at the scanning cowboy? Clearly you must have been to make a claim like that. It likely wasn't in 1963 anyway because the long form isn't usually printed... The White house had to get a special printout of it, likely this year, just to shut Trump up. -Up until that day the Birthers were demanding something that IS NEVER GIVEN OUT.

Helmet Cams from the seals... 1) where are these videos? Link please..??

I don't have a link because they haven't released these yet... Lulz. Of course they exist though because we already know very well the situation room was all watching them in real time... It would be kinda dumb not to hit the "Record button."

Come on, none of that shit really matters outside of multiple independent verifications. This 'proof' is all stuff that 9 year olds with computers are making now.

Nothing will ever be good enough for the conspiracy nutjob fruitcakes like you have obviously been reading... But usually things like DNA evidence, photos, and video are all good enough for those in charge in this world and you'd better start accepting it now even if your gut tells you it couldn't have happened.

For the rest of the time you live on THIS planet, for all intents & purposes, having lots of documentation and other evidence makes a TRUTH.

Anyway, all Osama would have to do is make one more film of himself with another dated newspaper and release it... And we'd have no more president Obama. -And everyone knows it.

This is NOT the kind of thing you fake. It's just too damn risky.

They either did it this way to create controversy (why?) or because it's BS meant to boost Obama's approval rating (which is at an all time low) and or garner support for these never ending wars. If it's for option 2, it's actually probably working, which is really sad in my opinion. Where have all the critical thinkers gone?

The TIMING of it does make one's eyebrowse raise considering how low the POTUS's poll numbers were 1 week ago, but outside that absolutely normal, every-single-day political occurence, there isn't anything fishy about this at all anymore... And lots more evidence to come, so they say.

 

[music4mic]

But a smarter finish. One you'd do well to take off that shiny hat and follow.

Seriously dude, with insults. This is exactly what I'm talking about, I haven't called you sheeple once. I asked a very simple question, why does someone who questions what governments do suddenly become the village idiot? FACT: Governments have been doing shady shit since the beginnings of government. So much so that the founders of this country wanted to make it very difficult for their government to gain to much power. Unfortunately, we've become spoiled, and we've started to ignore signs that they are overstepping their boundaries, i.e. ignoring the constitution and doing whatever the hell they want.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but a realist and a critical thinker.

Were you there at the scanning cowboy?

I don't have to be, every other example produced thus far has been on different paper. Come on, you know better than that, these arguments aren't even good

I don't have a link because they haven't released these yet...

Or because they don't exist, or because they are still being made. Maybe because they haven't been released though, we don't really know, so you're making huge leaps here too. Funny how that's acceptable when defending what you're beloved government tells you.

"It was on the TVs so it must be true."

Yeh, you didn't say that, but it seems to me that's what you were thinking.

Nothing will ever be good enough for the conspiracy nutjob fruitcakes like you have obviously been reading...

again with the insults, let's stick to facts here, k? k. Listen, I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying that there really hasn't been enough real evidence to prove it is. If I was on a jury, I'd have a reasonable doubt. That means more questions should be asked.

For the rest of the time you live on THIS planet, for all intents & purposes, having lots of documentation and other evidence makes a TRUTH.

And lack-there-of makes QUESTIONS. And reasonable ones at that. It super easy to preserve bodies, take samples, etc. Also, where did we get the original DNA to match to him? We know that the images they are showing on the media right now are the same bad photoshop images from years ago. Where is yearbook? Link? Wha? ...hasn't been release yet. I get it.

TRUTH = Independent verification, not blurbs from the person that stands to gain by lying.

Anyway, all Osama would have to do is make one more film of himself with another dated newspaper and release it... And we'd have no more president Obama. -And everyone knows it.

This is NOT the kind of thing you fake. It's just too damn risky.

We've had 9 different people claim he died over the past 10 years. Including very high level officials from a multitude of countries, including the U.S. I don't necessarily believe them any more than I believe Obama, but again it leads to more questions.

Not really sure why it's risky, if a video came out, they'd just claim it was made by a nut job conspiracy theorist and call every one who questioned the official line a moron. They're really good at that you know?

The TIMING of it does make one's eyebrowse raise considering how low the POTUS's poll numbers were 1 week ago, but outside that absolutely normal, every-single-day political occurence, there isn't anything fishy about this at all anymore... And lots more evidence to come, so they say.

You say not fishy, but I say MOTIVE & OPPORTUNITY which should mean a much higher level of inspection. If they had simply let a group of unaffiliated outside doctors perform the autopsy, then I'd agree with you 100% despite all the other facts, but because of the way this was treated I can't swallow the things that just don't add up. There is way to much room for error and manipulation.

 

[music4mic]

keep in mind that the top 10% of Americans possess 90% of our IQ points... The rest are watching soap operas and chatting on facebook all day long. -This market is simply rife with gullible citizens...

Goddamn are you right about this.

 

[lukep]

Sorry if I came off to harsh, music4mic, you're obviously not the everyday Beck worshipper like HB is.

I just feel it's a major frickin' deal to release the kind of proof we need to be sure on this one, because matters of national security are at stake and mommies don't like for their children to have nightmares when the 6 o'clock news shows them pictures of some ugly man with a bullethole in his head.

Worse yet is the Pakistan sitch. Clearly the Paki gov knew Osama was there, since it was the largest non-commercial compound in that suburb that was also just 1 KM (not even a mile!) from a military base... So our POTUS and their POPaki need to Iron some shit out before all of the evidence can be made public. -Or heck, we may need to start a war on Pakistan next!

So by the nature of this particular incident, it only seems natural to not let every last peice of evidence fall under the public eye just yet, and despite that they've said there is lots more evidence forthcoming.

So I'm cool with being patient right now. -You sound like you are not, and that's what I'm responding to.

If O gives us some really lame evidence and says "thats all there is," then I'm with you. I want to see something less questionable, and if nothing else, the film of him going down, with HD clarity. So let's hang tight and give them a change to make good.

why does someone who questions what governments do suddenly become the village idiot?

It's certainly uncharted territory for me... Usually I am an equal-opportunity POTUS basher.

Honestly I think that all POTUSes are just puppets for their corporate bosses so this has been interesting for me considering I can't think of a Corporation that would directly benefit from OBL's death.

Or because they don't exist, or because they are still being made. Maybe because they haven't been released though, we don't really know, so you're making huge leaps here too. Funny how that's acceptable when defending what you're beloved government tells you.

My leaps are based in REASON.

1. We've got lots of evidence that OBL was alive until recently.

2. Obama has made a declaration that the entire globe is going to want to see valid proof of and he obviously knew they'd want more than a smidgen of evidence.

Ocham's Razor man, Ocham's razor.

If you accept those two facts alone then the rest of the conspiracy angles I've been hammered with in the last 24 hours just don't have a leg to stand on. They'd all have to just ignore the fact that Obama wants to not be impeached and ridiculed.

If I was on a jury, I'd have a reasonable doubt. That means more questions should be asked.

As have we all. -Even the "Obama Chick" that helped so much with his campaign is right now waiting with baited breath to see the nitty gritty and personally verify the death of OBL in her own mind.

Why is it time yet for a thousand conspiracy theories to fly out of nowhere and start speculating that his forthcoming proof will be invalid???

You say not fishy, but I say MOTIVE & OPPORTUNITY which should mean a much higher level of inspection.

But there is also Counter-motive: Obama is likely smart enough to know he'll lose all credibility if caught, and it'll look MUCH worse on him in the long run... Just for his proof to not be STELLAR.

If they had simply let a group of unaffiliated outside doctors perform the autopsy, then I'd agree with you 100% despite all the other facts,

Who said they weren't there?

I'd bet the entire autopsy was filmed, perhaps with 3D cameras, and directed by off-site experts over a secure satelite linkup. His proof for this could be incredibly overwhelming, but not be the kind you can simply upload to youtube.

but because of the way this was treated I can't swallow the things that just don't add up. There is way to much room for error and manipulation.

See, it's the way you use the word "treated," as in you feel all the evidence has been given and it's time to decide is what's irking me. They've said multiple times it isn't so, and they'd lose their jobs if they tried to stop here, and they all know it.

 

[Moxie]

where did we get the original DNA to match to him?

Osama Bin Laden Dead - Accuracy of DNA Testing - Popular Mechanics

Clearly the Paki gov knew Osama was there

This would be a conspiracy theory.

Obama is likely smart enough to know he'll lose all credibility if caught

Technically speaking, Obama wouldn't be required for there to be a conspiracy. The CIA would only need to point out someone they believed to be Bin Laden and then produce a piece of paper about the DNA. If conspiracy theorists want to focus on anything here, it should probably be the who, what, when and where of the DNA testing.