Osama Bin Laden is finally dead

r_duke71 said:
The courier was operating in Pakistan when he lead agents to compound. He was never in Gitmo.
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Yes, but the information to find him was gained from interrogations at Gitmo. Interrogations that would have been subject to full disclosure during a regular trial. Get me now?

They would have never found Bin-Laden had they followed through with giving the detainees a fair trial, because Bin-Laden would have been tipped off just as soon as prosecutes disclosed any information they have. Which they have to do in a fair trial.
 


r_duke71 said:
Details count.
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Like the fact that he was just yards away from Pakistan's military Academy and he had other families that lived with him. Do you actually think that a lack of internet was stopping him from getting info? lol
 
GreeLee said:
Like the fact that he was just yards away from Pakistan's military Academy and he had other families that lived with him. Do you actually think that a lack of internet was stopping him from getting info? lol
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The US finally admitted that they seized a "treasure trove" of PCs and hard drives. I find it hard to believe that he had no internet at all.
 
BlueYonder said:
In other news, what you are going to hear about next is the deal with Pakistan. It seems they have been playing us for suckers, being as OBL had been hiding out safely in a Pakistani army town with troops everywhere. They've been taking billions in foreign aid, and calling themselves "allies" while harboring our #1 terrorist for years.
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You're speculating about an unproven plot, AKA a conspiracy theory. Weren't you criticizing others on here for doing that? :cool2:

The circumstances with Osama making it into Pakistan in the first place are strange and there are theories about that.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_BS83BmTIQ]YouTube - Seymour Hersh about Osama & Al 'Qaeda's Afghanistan escapes[/ame]
 
The Most Wanted Terorist in the world in a huge mansion without security? Only 4 people there?

My god, macedonian prime minister has 200 people in his security :thefinger:

So this is definitly another usual scenario and behaviour of US goverment.

I say scenario because US goverment made a war in 2001 in my country with the Osama's terrorist and US Army Generals in pension.

And after we send helicopters and airplanes to fuck the terrorists, your goverment threated with direct bombing of my country if we do not release the terrorists.

US Army from their base in Kosovo send NATO's busses to save them.

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Incantation said:
Going against the conspiracy theories...



BBC News - Osama Bin Laden's death: How it happened
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The conspiracy is not if they went there and did something, but what they did inside the house and after. Did the seals really shoot him in the house and carry out the real Osama? How much of a fight could a guy with diabetes and kidney failure put up? Especially with no guards.

The conspiracy as far as I can tell is that Osama has been long dead, the seals busted in a killed a guy they thought was Osama, the bodies were switched for testing, and the double(or real Osama) was buried at sea.

productionhead said:
And these character traits didn't stop him from killing thousands of innocents? Mmkay:xmas-smiley-022:
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There is a huge difference in using your own wife as a human shield and starting a holy war. Being able to pull off the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor, and get away with it for 10yrs. That gives you permanent balls of steal.

Next you will tell me Ceaser, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Hitler, and Emperor Hirohito (etc etc..) were all just cowards. They killed FAR MORE than the 2k people that died in 9-11.

Stop living in such a small gum drop care bear world and realize that human history is full of death and wars. Osama as much as it hurts to say was VERY SUCCESSFUL in putting his name into the history books, and it wont be as a "coward".
 
^ They're now saying she was not a human shield, is still alive, and also that Osama was unarmed.

Osama bin Laden dead: wife was shot in the leg, not killed - Telegraph

Also from that article :

Representative Ron Paul, a Republican presidential candidate, said that "confusion" in the White House accounts of events in Abbottabad was fuelling doubts and could also be part of a propaganda effort.

"The question I have is why does our government invite conspiracy theories all the time?" Mr Paul said on WAMU. "Why don't they show a picture?" Mr Paul, who vehemently opposes the Afghanistan war, said that he was "still looking for a lot more information" about bin Laden's death. "Governments tend to fib, some call it lying ... The war propagandists are very much into distorting information to get a consensus with the people."
 
Moxie said:
^ They're now saying she was not a human shield, is still alive, and also that Osama was unarmed.

Osama bin Laden dead: wife was shot in the leg, not killed - Telegraph

Also from that article :

Representative Ron Paul, a Republican presidential candidate, said that "confusion" in the White House accounts of events in Abbottabad was fuelling doubts and could also be part of a propaganda effort.

"The question I have is why does our government invite conspiracy theories all the time?" Mr Paul said on WAMU. "Why don't they show a picture?" Mr Paul, who vehemently opposes the Afghanistan war, said that he was "still looking for a lot more information" about bin Laden's death. "Governments tend to fib, some call it lying ... The war propagandists are very much into distorting information to get a consensus with the people."
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Ah finally we learn more, thank god for people with common sense to ask these questions. Why do people just blindly follow whatever they see on TV? I bet it gave some Americans hard-ons to think of Osama begging for his life behind his human shield of a wife, before he was shot.

Sadly this just raises yet another question though. If Osama was not armed, how did we not take him alive?
 
BeerNuts said:
Ah finally we learn more, thank god for people with common sense to ask these questions. Why do people just blindly follow whatever they see on TV? I bet it gave some Americans hard-ons to think of Osama begging for his life behind his human shield of a wife, before he was shot.

Sadly this just raises yet another question though. If Osama was not armed, how did we not take him alive?
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Actually the marines were attacked by a woman while Osama stayed behind her. They misidentified the woman as his wife. He wasn't holding her hostage as a human shield, but it's understandable how in the heat of the moment these kind of misidentifications can happen.
 
I hope he makes a youtube video that gets out saying stfu im not dead ye bastids... Because seriously; Day 1 they report hes dead, Day 2 they bury him @ sea? ROFL... Cover up, didnt happen... From marketers to marketers, this is a PR stunt to get peoples minds off the failed photoshopped birth certificate they provided the week prior.
 
Dresden14 said:
I hope he makes a youtube video that gets out saying stfu im not dead ye bastids... Because seriously; Day 1 they report hes dead, Day 2 they bury him @ sea? ROFL... Cover up, didnt happen... From marketers to marketers, this is a PR stunt to get peoples minds off the failed photoshopped birth certificate they provided the week prior.
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No he's definitely dead. I'm a die-hard Republican, but I do know that Hillary isn't stupid enough to get caught up in those type of shenanigans with Obama.

However, the dumping of the body, and now the delay in releasing any photos is definitely a purposeful act. Aimed at stirring up conspiracy theorists. It's his only way of combating ownership of this pisss poor economy.
 
BeerNuts said:
Next you will tell me Ceaser, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Hitler, and Emperor Hirohito (etc etc..) were all just cowards. They killed FAR MORE than the 2k people that died in 9-11.
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Since we're all giving our opinion here, Hitler was no coward. Anyone who can take over 16 countries, and take back what was first stolen from you to begin with - is a hero in my book. People whom prolong wars in the middle east since 1992 should be executed (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama). Furthermore, in war - regardless of how many people were killed is irrelevant.

You also say (etc etc); instead of mention people whom are not liked by todays government, what about Franklin Roosevelt (USA), or Winston Churchhil (Britan) in that time? Putting people in camps, extreme fascism within USA, or bombing innocent german cities killing women and children in WWII?

Educate yourself...
 
They said they had to bury him with in 24 hours to respect Muslim tradition. No idea if that's true or not, but if it is that explains the immediate burial.
 
crackp0t said:
They said they had to bury him with in 24 hours to respect Muslim tradition. No idea if that's true or not, but if it is that explains the immediate burial.
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That would be fine, but it's inconsistent w/ previous behavior. For instance, the same "religious courtesy" was not extended to the Muslim teenagers he snipered as they tried to pirate a boat last year.

And besides, any good Muslim will tell you that Osama's (or Usama's) form of Muslim was an extremely perverted one. So why would they care if we did or did not respect him as a Muslim? They could have easily done a Walt Disney on Bin-Laden, and then had outside experts from several different Countries come and confirm that it was him.

Using political correctness as a reason to dump the body is just lame. Especially since thankfully you didn't follow political correctness to sneak in and blow the un-armed guy's head in half. Who really cares about political correctness after that?
 
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