Recommend a new computer
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Anecdotal horseshit. Sony Vaio's are solid, especially the laptops. Windows 8 is for the same people who think the Xb1 is awesome. Win7 > *.
Desktops, build your own.
My BAD!! I have the 335 Jay Crest series Intel 240GB SSD on my AMD 8320 System.
I didn't remember his post saying anything other than Old Intel 80GB SSD's.
But, obviously my SUBCONSCIOUS saw the 320 and then transposed it as what my SSD is.
LOL
Hmmm....I need to expand my Mental DB I guess. I'm remembering that I was looking at the 320 Intel SSD 300GB drives for a friend who has an old Dell Laptop that only has SATA II connections and had told him for the money he should just go ahead and get the 335 or 535 series SATA III drive.
Man, IT SUCKS TO BE OLD!!!
ROFL
Hmmm...if OP is not comfortable building his own system...I'm pretty sure that discussing the difference between MB/s transfer rates and drive calculations of IOPs will just blow right by him.
His NEW system will most likely have SATA III connections on the MB, why not make FULL use of them?
If he is using Camtasia and editing Video then he WILL be doing Disk Intensive Operations.
Now, will you notice a significant difference in transfer speeds with Mechanical HDD's between SATA II & III? Only marginal until you start using a "True" Hardware RAID and Enterprise drives.
But with SSD drives there is a HUGE difference between SATA II & III whether you are measuring in MB/s or IOPs. And YES.....in Real World usage speeds as well.
BTW.....you should consistently keep DAILY backups of SSD drives. Unlike Mechanical drives where there is a "Chance" to recover data after disk failure...SSD's are pretty much unrecoverable once they fail.
Oh, and this CRAP about limited R/W cycles of a SSD and them only lasting about 3 years reliably is TOTAL BS!!
An MLC SSD should easily last 10 years even with 20GB a day of data transfers!!
Most of the newer SSD's even come from the factory with Over Provisioning already setup on it. So, to manually over provision the drive now a days is not needed. Just use the entire available amount of the raw drive.
Until Synthetic Crystal manufacturing gets better and they start using them for permanent data storage, I'll keep using Enterprise HDD's for my critical data and backups.
SSD will still be my preference for now for running my OS and ALL programs.
This is the discussion I had with my friend about his older laptop that the MB only supported SATA II on.
After some research I concluded and told him that for the money he may as well go ahead and get a newer SATA III SSD to put in it even though the drive would not run at it's full potential. Then when he one day does get a newer laptop he could then still use that drive in his newer system.
There was NO Cost savings of getting the older SATA II SSD vs. a newer SATA III SSD. (Some SSD SATA II drives were actually MORE expensive than their SATA II counterparts.)
Where as if he got a SATA II SSD it too would be outdated like his laptop when it got replaced.
Oh, and for those who may not know.....there is NO SUCH THING as a Refurbished SSD. It is just a plain Ole USED SSD!!!
Unlike Mechanical HDD's where they replace the controller cards to refurbish them, and sometimes the spindle & bearing, there is NOTHING to replace/refurbish on a SSD.
They just wipe the drive, run the TRIM command, and test that it is working. Then they label it as "Refurbished" and sell it at a higher price point than a used SSD. Most only have a 30 to 90 day warranty.
It still has all the same chips and circuits. Nothing gets replaced.
So, it's just a USED SSD with a higher price tag. Better to get a NEW or a Used drive. Never a refurbished SSD. (They do not exist.)
Thanks for all the replies. I didn't mention it previously but I have a big fat 2T Buffalo linkstation NAS device in a RAID 1 for all my backup and storage needs. All of my important data is backed up nightly, and I always have the previous 30 days worth in rotation.
I just usually setup my desktops in a RAID 1 config too to prevent any downtime should a drive fail, which I have had happen several times. This was more important in the past when downtime of my primary PC would have been completely unacceptable due to my business, but not as critical anymore, and I also have other "backup" computers now I could use as well so the RAID 1 on the OS isn't as important anymore.
Obviously this new computer I just bought is SATA3 compatible, so I should probably just throw these Intel SATA II drives in the trash, forget about the RAID on the OS, and just buy one of these SATA III Samsungs you guys are recommending eh?
I just usually setup my desktops in a RAID 1 config too to prevent any downtime should a drive fail, which I have had happen several times. This was more important in the past when downtime of my primary PC would have been completely unacceptable due to my business, but not as critical anymore, and I also have other "backup" computers now I could use as well so the RAID 1 on the OS isn't as important anymore.
Obviously this new computer I just bought is SATA3 compatible, so I should probably just throw these Intel SATA II drives in the trash, forget about the RAID on the OS, and just buy one of these SATA III Samsungs you guys are recommending eh?
It's been a while since I have priced an SSD. The last time I did there was a good $50 difference, so I am glad to hear that's changed (thinking might need a new one)
I couldn't agree more about the "Refurbished" drives. SSD drives are notoriously more finicky than the spinning drives. They are typically good or bad. So if one was refurbished the likely hood of having it last you a long time is not good. There is a reason the warranty's have been dropped down to 30 or 90 days, because the drives fail after 2 or 3 years. With that said, the technology is getting better and better, and the drives are lasting longer than the older ones.
One last thought on SSD's. Because of the propensity of failure, its important to backup. I don't store anything on a SSD that I don't mind losing. If TRIM is enabled on your drive there is a good chance your data will not be recoverable if the drive fails. Final thought. If you took an SSD drive and stored data on it, unplugged it and put it in the closet for 5 years, some of your data may have disappeared. This wont happen with a spinning disk hard drive. Just stop and think about that for a second. Programs go on SSD, data goes on a spinning drive.
Already done. Smashed those old outdated SATA II drives with a sledgehammer. If SATA III is significantly faster, even in some situations, I'm not going to cheap out and upgrade everything but the drive just to save $150.
While we're on the subject ... I'll never get anywhere close to using 250GB. My current C drive is only about 30 gigs, and my current D drive for all my data that's backed up nightly is barely 1 gig. Is there a benefit to not using all of the SSD when I partition it (theoretically it should last longer shouldn't it?) or just split the drive into 2 equal partitions using all the drive?
A buddy of mine is the same way. I almost fell over when he asked for help migrating his data and I was able to put all his critical data on my Mushkin 32GB thumb drive!!!
Here's a snapshot of my workstation here at the Condo that I'm on right now.
I NEVER have enough room for my PORN!!!! I have around 31 TB of disk space and it's almost full!!
ROFLMAO!!!
Now to your SSD question, you will not need to leave any room for manual Over Provisioning. The name brand drives are shipping with the Over Provisioning already on them from what I've seen.
BUT....if you really don't need all the room on the drive then you could go ahead and allow 10% of your SSD unallocated for Over Provisioning. (I only left 8% for over provisioning since I wanted the space.)
From the NUMEROUS tests I've read through it will improve speed and longevity on paper. But in "MY" real world experience, "I" noticed NO DIFFERENCE is SPEED!!
Also, I found several tests that were done on SSD's that TORTURE tested 240GB MLC drives (One was the Samsung EVO.) 24/7 with heavy write and erase cycles.
The Evo was one of the longest lasting drives and according to the data collected the drive had done a workload equivalent to around 13.5 years of the average work load for a Desktop drive.
So, "I" personally have no FEAR of transferring data back and forth to a SSD for fear of shortening it's life. Most Mechanical drives, even Enterprise drives, should be changed out every 3 to 5 years just to be safe.
I have some OLD Crappy OCZ Vertex I and II drives still in use just for shits and giggles. I mean my Thumb drive are BIGGER than the 30GB and 60GB OCZ SSD's I have still running and that's been a little over 5 years now. They are working fine with no issues whatsoever other than their size and speed.
I now just use them to throw 1 or 2 BD movies on to stream around the home Network. lol
One last little "tip" about the SSD as your OS drive in Windows 7.....DO NOT allow your computer to SLEEP in device manager nor allow it to put the SSD in stand-by mode!! Let it put your Monitors to sleep but NOT your computer or OS drive!!
Yes, Yes....I know.....the NEWER SSD's should FINE. But I do NOT trust them!! LOL
Better safe than sorry in "my" book.
I remember going INSANE trying to figure out why my computer would lock up after going to sleep or stand-by mode when I first got the OCZ SSD's.
Just telling Device Manager to NEVER put the computer to sleep solved it.
Oh, and my OTHER Windows 7 Ultimate little QUIRK is that if I let the Task Bar Hide "and" let my monitors sleep the OS will sometimes lock-up.
So, I can EITHER let my monitors SLEEP "or" let the Task Bar Hide....but I can't have BOTH going on or I get random lock-ups. My Monitors sleep and my task bar does NOT hide anymore.
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Not that "you" will have to worry about it, but Win 7 likes to have like 8 to 10% of a drive's capacity FREE or it will give you the angry RED lines you see in my snapshot.
I NEVER have enough room for my PORN!!!! I have around 31 TB of disk space and it's almost full!!
gottt damn. WTF are you doing on that pig? that's a metric fuckton of porn
gottt damn. WTF are you doing on that pig? that's a metric fuckton of porn
What ain't I doing on my pig:love-smiley-086:?! :rasta:
The Living Room and Bed Room computers add about another 18 TB to the home network, but they have very little Porn on them.
Here's a snapshot of a partial view of my PORN gathering sessions and the number of tabs I have open while out hunting my PORN.
Keep in mind that I also usually have Chrome, Opera, and I.E. open and in the hunt along with FF.....but FF is my go to since the other browsers get a little glitchy when they have more than 40 PORN Tabs open which is just WAY TOO FEW a number to do any REAL PORN hunting with!!
LOL
Here's a snapshot of my Favorites for IE that has around 60,000 PORN sites in it and it is the one I use the least for my PORN hunting. I think I have over 200,000 PORN sites in my FF Bookmarks.
ROFL
Virtual Porn Stud maybe.....but Literature Guru?? Nahhh!!! LOL
ROFLMAO!!!
Touche'!! To whomever tagged "me" as eBook GURU!!!
FMTT!!! (Fuck Me To Tears!!)
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ROFLMAO!!!
Touche'!! To whomever tagged "me" as eBook GURU!!!
FMTT!!! (Fuck Me To Tears!!)
lol
It's a Sandy Bridge Xeon E3 1245 V2 @ 3400Mhz w/3800 Turbo. I built this workstation for at home back around the end of last May or the beginning of June.
The i7 3770k is 100Mhz faster but the i7 does NOT support ECC RAM. So, I went with the Xeon. Plus I run Virtual Machines and the Xeon has Virtualization instructions on the chip.
The POWER of PORN!!!
Here's my stats on a private tracker torrent site I recently joined. It's known mostly for getting current TV shows, but to build my ratio FAST I downloaded the 10 newest PORN torrents to seed. One of which was 158GB and it was a Free Leech!! :love-smiley-086::rasta:
LOL
Here's my stats on a private tracker torrent site I recently joined. It's known mostly for getting current TV shows, but to build my ratio FAST I downloaded the 10 newest PORN torrents to seed. One of which was 158GB and it was a Free Leech!! :love-smiley-086::rasta:
LOL
Going back to the OP's discussion...
Let's say I'd rather use Linux than pay for more Windows products. I already have 2 other laptops with it anyway and I honestly don't care for 7.
I've used Linux before, but never on one of my machines. Having said that, which one do I pick?? Ubuntu/Mint/Cinnamon?
Occassional gaming, but 90% work-related.
Let's say I'd rather use Linux than pay for more Windows products. I already have 2 other laptops with it anyway and I honestly don't care for 7.
I've used Linux before, but never on one of my machines. Having said that, which one do I pick?? Ubuntu/Mint/Cinnamon?
Occassional gaming, but 90% work-related.