RP is no longer actively campaigning in any state. That means he stopped campaigning, by definition. Can't you read?
Ron Paul Ends Primary Campaign
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RP is no longer actively campaigning in any state. That means he stopped campaigning, by definition. Can't you read?
It's EXACTLY what we should expect of the propaganda machine trying to shut the Paul machine down. From the beginning they've shown the utmost disregard for how the system really works and clearly take every opportunity to misdirect the public into thinking that Paul can't win because he isn't winning the straw polls.
In fact it's SO obvious that this response has been taken into account and anticipated by the Paul campaign in their decision to do it. They are aware that the MSM is still the mouthpiece to the most so they have treated this announcement today as a trade-off: Fewer non-techie supporters in exchange for some more breathing room at the state conventions.
The genius of this announcement is that Robme supporters no longer will feel the need to get worked up and fight the Paul supporters at all local and state caucuses for the next (crucial) few months... Until it's too late.
In other words; This helps us win more than it hurts us... Just barely.
That means jack shit. Who wants to campaign to be the beauty pageant winner when there is a presidential race going on??
You throw it around as if it hurts his chances to win the presidency, when in fact it only helps him. LURN AMURIKUN POLLATICKS, DUDE.
So luke, if you're so confident, what will you do if RP loses the nomination. Not just the presidency like you say he will win, just the nomination. Just curious if you're serious or not or this is all just an elaborate troll.
Uh, so he would still be having sex.
woooooooo
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For fucks sake bro, you can't seriously be that dense? You must be trolling. What do you not understand about the delegate STRATEGY? It's RP's only shot, and he's gunning for it the best he can. Nobody is saying he is our next prez, just that things aren't quite what they seem, and that the game isn't over yet...and he for damn sure isn't "dropping out of the campaign".
It's news to no one that RP is the underdog.
Why the fuck are you letting the media dictate your thoughts? Aren't you like the fucking uber marketer around this bitch or something?
Dumb move on Paul's part to openly state that kind of thing. Just don't spend the money and carry on as normal with all other aspects of your day to day business to avoid getting retarded press like above. Dopey fucking strategy there.
Luke then becomes wickedfire's biggest Gary Johnson fan? Unlike Romney or Paul, Johnson is already guaranteed to be on the ballot for every state. If he can somehow get his poll numbers up to 15 percent, then he gets to be in the debates.
"To date, Johnson has been polling between 6 and 9 percent nationally – several points shy of what he needs."
Gary Johnson could catch presidential race by surprise | Fox News
(I'm surprised Fox News had this on their site)
I've been saying that I'll move to Bangkok if/when Paul's out of the game... But now that I see the r3VOLution filling up so many other political seats nationwide, I'm starting to have the inkling of a 2nd thought about that...
In that unrealistic fantasy world where Robme beats Paul uncontestably for the nomination, Obomba would clean rombe's clock 600 ways to sunday. Then Obomba would do more and more evil considering he doesn't have to get elected again... And more and more libertarians would run for office... Then in 2016 we'd get someone like GJ in the whitehouse without much of a fight. Meanwhile, the old guard repugs will be through forever. The Repubilcan party WILL BE the Libertarian party in 2016 in that scenario, so If I could find a way to weather 4 years of hell, it'd be a great country afterwards.
So perhaps I'd still move out for a few years.
As I pointed out above, it was a trade off. They absolutely, irrefutably knew that the MSM would do this to their speech and decided that the advantage to be gained on the actual battlefield is worth all of this.
LULZ... Gary's no Paul. He doesn't have a 30 year awesome voting record, for one. He's not a champion of Austrian economics, for another. I certainly wouldn't mind him in the whitehouse given the competition, but I wouldn't find the energy I do for Honest Ron.
I'm not surprised at all... It's yet another attack on the credibility of Paul's campaign. Naturally they'd like to spread the idea that even Libertarians don't like Paul, when in fact the core of the party will be overjoyed to vote Republican in November if Paul's the nominee.
This.
Explain the advantage to announcing this turn of strategy rather than just executing it without calling attention to it.
Would you drag your happy ass out in the rain to vote for Romney who is as exciting as oatmeal (old oatmeal) when you don't think anyone else is running against him?
RP's folks are grassroots and internet. We KNOW he isn't dropping out. But if your only source of info (the media) says he's not campaigning you don't vote for Romney because there is no reason.
It's a good strategy as long as RP can still reach his people actually.
No, man... Ron Paul hasn't stopped his campaign.
He also hasn't stopped eating. He merely changed his strategy so he lays there and eats anything that falls into his mouth.
Geez, RP fanboys are so disconnected from reality it's startling. Now the Republican Party needs to figure out what to do with his crazy ass at the convention. Do you not give him a prime time speaking slot and piss off the 37 people that actually came out and voted for him or do you give him a prime time speaking slot and let the whole country see how nuts elements of the Republican party are?
He also hasn't stopped eating. He merely changed his strategy so he lays there and eats anything that falls into his mouth.
Geez, RP fanboys are so disconnected from reality it's startling. Now the Republican Party needs to figure out what to do with his crazy ass at the convention. Do you not give him a prime time speaking slot and piss off the 37 people that actually came out and voted for him or do you give him a prime time speaking slot and let the whole country see how nuts elements of the Republican party are?
Argue all you want, here's the facts about RP's campaign
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/05/14/ron-paul-has-not-suspended-his-campaign/
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/05/14/ron-paul-has-not-suspended-his-campaign/
Serious question for those of you who say it's all about the delegates, if that is the case and Ron Paul does come out of the convention with the most delegates even after losing the popular vote do you think both the party establishment or the mainstream republican voters would let him go through with it without challenging it or running a 3rd party candidate? Even in Texas every time I hear his name brought up by mainstream, rank and file republicans the opinion on him is the same, they like him on broad republican message of "less spending, less taxes, less regulation" but disagree with him on every other policy. That's kind of like buying a car because you like how it has an engine and 4 wheels, but hate everything else about it.
I don't know I guess the whole delegate strategy never made any sense for me because my first reaction is to reverse the roles, if Paul had won the popular vote but Romney won the delegates would Paul supporters back Romney? I don't think so.
Just my 2 cents.
I don't know I guess the whole delegate strategy never made any sense for me because my first reaction is to reverse the roles, if Paul had won the popular vote but Romney won the delegates would Paul supporters back Romney? I don't think so.
Just my 2 cents.
Since Ron Paul is not going to be president or win the Republican nomination, shouldn't his focus be on getting his message across to as many people as possible instead of trying to get his rabid supporters to desperately grasp onto a 'gotcha' method of winning the nomination that will not work and does nothing to spread his message to regular people?
I hear that. But the strategy is more for delegates than voters. Delegates are more organized by nature and I don't think Romney's won't come out as a result of this sleight of hand by the Paul camp. Mormon politics is very well organized.
I don't know though could be wrong. I would think that from a political perspective it would be better to just clam up and work the delegate angle while keeping the popular vote unawares. Why? Because if it does come to a close race Paul will need every ounce of popular opinion on his side to not get trampled by the machine. Why give the MSM the ability to plant the seed in peoples' minds that he's dropped out, untrue as it is? It may well come back to bite him later in a close count when the spin machine goes into overdrive.
It is how Obama was nominated over Clinton.
Ron Paul's Delegate-Focused Campaign Strategy Came From Obama '08
It's about a lot more than Ron Paul becoming President (which is something most RP supporters don't expect to happen), its about taking over the party leadership at the precinct, county, and state levels which continues to happen because the national leadership comes from there. If you control the grassroots you control the party long after Ron Paul is dead and buried.
That's the whole point - if Ron Paul actually got elected I'd be shocked and that would just be icing on the cake, but that's not really what this is about. It's a long term plan to control the party for the foreseeable future. The Bible Thumpers and War Hawks have run it into the ground so now its time to change direction.
Of course not. Any Ron Paul supporter will tell you that Romney is no different than Obama, so you'd rather eat shit for 4 more years than 8 more years. The reason he's running as a Republican and taking this strategy is to make the Republican Party viable again long term by taking over party leadership spots and making it a more libertarian platform.
There is a major shift going on in the Republican Party - some people call it a takeover or a revolution, but really its just a lot of people fed up with the fake two party system who went and got themselves educated on how the voting process actually works, and now they are using it to reshape the Republican Party.
A third party candidate will not work in our system, but its not because of the media or brainwashing or anything like that its because the system is set-up as two party on the precinct level all the way up to the national level. The only way to make real change was to take one of the parties over and the Republican Party was the better fit since they claim to be about smaller government. This is an effort to make that claim a reality.
Plus, the libertarian social issues will steal some of the base away from the Democratic Party. Gay rights, legalization of drugs etc., are becoming more accepted in society so the Republican Party needs to adjust their platform anyway or risk becoming irrelevant.
Politics is all about infrastructure, and since the Republican infrastructure is already in place we might as well use it to create a more libertarian platform for the national stage.