Ron Paul For President
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OK - I don't want to get into a discussion of the trinity! 
God, Jesus, Allah, Vishnu....call it what you will but you see my point. I don't think there is such a thing as a soul so I don't believe a fetus is a person from the moment of conception. Some people do, fair play. That's their belief, it shouldn't be forced onto other women's bodies by the government is all I'm saying.
God, Jesus, Allah, Vishnu....call it what you will but you see my point. I don't think there is such a thing as a soul so I don't believe a fetus is a person from the moment of conception. Some people do, fair play. That's their belief, it shouldn't be forced onto other women's bodies by the government is all I'm saying.OK - I don't want to get into a discussion of the trinity!
I am a Christian, but I also don't look at abortion religiously, I personally see a fetus as a person. YOU were once one. This 'thing' is going to become a person just like you. How can you give another person the right to kill it? Your denying this future person it's right to life.
I find it ironic that if a serial killer kills a woman who is pregnant he will get charged with double homicide; however, when I doctor plunges scissors in the back of a baby's scull and then vacuums out his/her brain it is completely legal.
Fucking pathetic.
Fucking pathetic.
"Crime began to fall roughly 18 years after abortion legalization. The 5 states that allowed abortion in 1970 experienced declines earlier than the rest of the nation, which legalized in 1973 with Roe v. Wade. States with high abortion rates in the 1970s and 1980s experienced greater crime reductions in the 1990s. In high abortion states, only arrests of those born after abortion legalization fall relative to low abortion states. Legalized abortion appears to account for as much as 50 percent of the recent drop in crime."
-Steven Levitt co-author of Freakonomics
-Steven Levitt co-author of Freakonomics
@ Karnul:
- False Cause: assuming that because two things happened, the first one caused the second one. (Sequence is not causation.) For example, "Before women got the vote, there were no nuclear weapons." Or, "Every time my brother Bill accompanies me to Fenway Park, the Red Sox are sure to lose." Essentially, these are arguments that the sun goes down because we've turned on the street lights.
- Confusing Correlation And Causation: earthquakes in the Andes were correlated with the closest approaches of the planet Uranus. Therefore, Uranus must have caused them. (But Jupiter is nearer than Uranus, and more massive too.) When sales of hot chocolate go up, street crime drops. Does this correlation mean that hot chocolate prevents crime? No, it means that fewer people are on the streets when the weather is cold.
The bigger a child's shoe size, the better the child's handwriting. Does having big feet make it easier to write? No, it means the child is older.
- Causal Reductionism (Complex Cause): trying to use one cause to explain something, when in fact it had several causes. For example, "The accident was caused by the taxi parking in the street." (But other drivers went around the taxi. Only the drunk driver hit the taxi.)
That is the most bullshit I have heard. Ever.
You are aware that, with enough digging, you can relate almost anything to the increase/decrease in crime rate? Same reason why most people don't support Levitt's research.
Example: Over the last 21 years my dick has gotten bigger (which can be proven). Over the past 20 years the nation's crime rate has decreased (which can be proven). Therefore the crime rate must be decreasing because my dick is getting bigger.
Ok, so maybe that is not the perfect example. However the concept remains the same.
ANYWAYS, getting back on topic.
I am definitely a Ron Paul supporter. Being from Texas I have known about Ron Paul for a good while. I am happy to see so many other people catching on to his message.
Even if you don't support all his stances (ie abortion, gun control, capital punishment, etc) you can't help but face the fact that he is probably the best shot our country has. Everything is so screwed up and as the years go on the gov is more in our lives, we need someone to get us (as a country) back on track. You are never going to find a candidate that believes 100% as you do, but I think Ron Paul's honesty is making up for that with a lot of people.
I am definitely a Ron Paul supporter. Being from Texas I have known about Ron Paul for a good while. I am happy to see so many other people catching on to his message.
Even if you don't support all his stances (ie abortion, gun control, capital punishment, etc) you can't help but face the fact that he is probably the best shot our country has. Everything is so screwed up and as the years go on the gov is more in our lives, we need someone to get us (as a country) back on track. You are never going to find a candidate that believes 100% as you do, but I think Ron Paul's honesty is making up for that with a lot of people.
I love how Ron Paul is killing party lines and bringing lefties over to the dark side. As a Canadian I am always astounded by the two party system. Coke or Pepsi. Choose and STFU! Orange Crush? BAH! Not in America! Only pinko's would even TRY to drink gingerale!
Anyway, Ron Paul hasn't got a hope in hell. That's clear, but at least he is getting some dialouge going. I registered some domain names that i would love to see put to good use. I am just too busy watching simpsons reruns to get to these....
DOCTORRONPAUL.COM
POPERONPAUL.COM
REPUBLICANRONPAUL.COM
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RONPAUL2016.COM
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RONPAULMADEMEAREPUBLICAN.COM
My favourite is:
RON PAUL MADE ME A REPUBLICAN.COM
BTW 'Hope for America' is his campaign slogan.
If you feel like you could make a difference with these let me know.
Anyway, Ron Paul hasn't got a hope in hell. That's clear, but at least he is getting some dialouge going. I registered some domain names that i would love to see put to good use. I am just too busy watching simpsons reruns to get to these....
DOCTORRONPAUL.COM
POPERONPAUL.COM
REPUBLICANRONPAUL.COM
RON-PAUL-FOR-PRESIDENT.COM
RONPAUL2016.COM
RONPAULFORAMERICA.COM
RONPAULFORVP.COM
RONPAULHOPEFORAMERICA.COM
RONPAULMADEMEAREPUBLICAN.COM
My favourite is:
RON PAUL MADE ME A REPUBLICAN.COM
BTW 'Hope for America' is his campaign slogan.
If you feel like you could make a difference with these let me know.
Our definitions of personhood obviously differ then. Now don't get me wrong, I don't support abortion at any period during pregnancy. Half of my genetic material was one a sperm too. Do you think its wrong to waste sperm? Some people do. That's their view, would you be happy if Catholics were the majority in the USA and wanted to make condoms and masturbation illegal?
It's hard to scientifically test things like economics or geology. But I find the link intriguing between abortion and crime rates. But anyway... yeah - I don't usually discuss abortion or immigration because I think they are distractions.
Watch what that hand is doing while the other one rapes us.
We are pissing away hundreds of billions per year... maybe over a trillion dollars per year. This money represents life, quality of life, and the hard work of millions.
Something needs to be done. Ron Paul seems like a good answer to me.
Watch what that hand is doing while the other one rapes us.
We are pissing away hundreds of billions per year... maybe over a trillion dollars per year. This money represents life, quality of life, and the hard work of millions.
Something needs to be done. Ron Paul seems like a good answer to me.
I don't agree with a lot of his policies and do fear that big business will get bigger and more out of control, but Ron Paul does seem to be part of a rare breed - an honest politician.
If he stops the empire-building and pulls US forces out of other countries as he claims he will then that would be a very good thing for the world. I know a lot of people will rejoice when the US bases here close and it will save my taxes from being wasted on policing all the demonstrations against them.
The WTO does more harm than good. US withdrawal would possibly kill it, hopefully saving some developing nations from forced privatisation in exchange for loans they can't afford to repay.
Ron Paul doesn't seem to like the UN much either. While I think withdrawal would not be the best move, if a future US government isn't going to support the UN then they should surrender their permanent seat on the security council.
If he stops the empire-building and pulls US forces out of other countries as he claims he will then that would be a very good thing for the world. I know a lot of people will rejoice when the US bases here close and it will save my taxes from being wasted on policing all the demonstrations against them.
The WTO does more harm than good. US withdrawal would possibly kill it, hopefully saving some developing nations from forced privatisation in exchange for loans they can't afford to repay.
Ron Paul doesn't seem to like the UN much either. While I think withdrawal would not be the best move, if a future US government isn't going to support the UN then they should surrender their permanent seat on the security council.
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