Rothschild versus Illuminati, who's winning?

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Cliffs notes for those who care:

Illuminatti was started by Adam Weishaupt in the 1760s, who was financed by the recently reorganized and consolidated House of Rothschild, the largest lending house in Europe at the time. Weishaupt was a Jew turned Catholic priest turned Satanist. The Rothschilds asked him to get a plan together and gather some bros to take over the world. He finalized that plan on May 1, 1776. Weishaupt chose the name Illuminatti from a derivation of Lucifer, meaning Holders of the Light. If you know Christian and Judaic literature then you probably know the significance of this.

The Illuminatti's stated goal was to completely take over the money systems of every nation, create a world government overarching all individual governments, and control the world from behind the scenes. To accomplish this they developed and carried out the following strategies:

• Use bribes and blackmail to compromise powerful people in government, industry, and elsewhere.

• Cultivate students in top tier schools, particularly students from elite family lines, to be trained in globaloney - Rhodes Scholars, Skull & Bones, etc.

• Place stooges in government as experts, specialists, and advisors, to destroy governments from within.

• Obtain control of all mass communications media.

• Control all private property.

• Infiltrate freemasonic lodges and use them as places for headhunting future conspirators.

A good case can be made that the American and French Revolutions were influenced by Illuminatti planning to weaken the two strongest governments at the time.

An Italian named Mazzini took over leadership after Weishaupt, and an American general named Albert Pike took over after Mazzini. Mazzini was in contact with confederate forces in the Civil War, in contact with Mormons, pretty much anyone trying to destroy the country during that time.

Pike is attributed with laying out a three world war blueprint in the 1860s that the Illuminatti were to follow to achieve the conditions they desired around the world, which were the people and governments being so completely exhausted and sick of war that they would accept a world government run by Illuminatti stooges.

WWI - Destroy tsarism, introduce communism into russia & let it spread, start building up fascism
WWII - Pit fascists against zionists, destroy the power of the german state, weaken fascism
WWIII - Pit zionism against moslems, destroy both, divide rest of the world on the issue

In the Civil War Judah Benjamin, advisor to Jefferson Davis, was a Rothschild agent.

Right after the Civil War Jacob Schiff showed up in New York. Rothschild agent, bought into Kuen Loeb with Rothschild money and eventually bought it out and moved it to Wall Street. He then became the patron of Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Harriman, sponsoring the creation of a massive industrial finance network under Rothschild control across the country. By the turn of the century he had also become cozy with Lehman, Goldman, and JPM. More or less had control of the country's money, just needed it to become official, so he needed a stooge president. That President was Wilson, who signed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 and the Federal Income Tax. Rockefeller took over most of the financial control of the US and the dollar after this point along with JPM.

Meanwhile in Russia Illuminatti types were financing a Bolshevik revolution through the concocted machinations of a wealthy Zionist stooge named Mordechai Levy (Karl Marx lol) who wrote the Communist Manifesto in Soho England, the then and current hangout of the Rothschilds and nerve center for globaloney douchebaggery.

Soon after that was the formation of the CFR in 1921, the Illuminatti's officially unofficial US branch.

Lots left out, that's some of the old school history.

Is the Illuminatti still around? Not in its past form, but the Rothschilds are most definitely alive and well and most of the bloodlines/families who have been involved with it for a couple centuries are still around as well, although name changes often mask their true identities. Moreover evidence of the conspiracy abounds more than ever these days, unless you spend an inordinate amount of time under a rock then you may not notice.

Good luck bros
 
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For a long time, I've researched this secret society, and have come up with a question. Rothschild versus Illuminati, who's winning? My research indicates, the Rothschild originate from a German-Jewish family, who elevated in Banking, etc.

The Illumanti, which uses the famous All Seeing Eye - worships Ra, Horus, and Egyptian Gods. The All Seeing Eye is the eye of The Egyptian God Horus, Creator of the Earth.

Where everything falls apart for me is, why would the Rothschild, a Jewish Family be working with or a part of the Ilumanti, which use Egyptian symbolize? The Egyptians enslaves the Jewish people, (Moses, etc). So using that symbolism makes no sense.

I feel, that if there is a secret society, there are several, and it really doesn't look like they are working together. The Bankers are creating and financing the wars, etc. But the Illumanti, what is their end goal, beside this "New World Order"? The people to benefit from 9/11 and these terrorist attacks are clearly the bankers (war profits). So what the hell is the Illumanti up to? We see their symbols everywhere, it's on our money for God sakes. And where does the CIA fit in all this? I feel their are on the Illumanti side, instead of the bankers.

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These are great questions. I've studied this topic quite a bit myself and I will attempt to shed some light on it.

It's not so clean cut as calling somebody a Jew or a Hebrew. Even back then it wasn't so clean cut. There are 12 distinct Israelite tribes that can be broken down and traced. The father of the Israelites also had a brother called Esau who was at odds with him. So there are people very similar to Jews that aren't "Jewish". And then even the majority of people living in Israel today aren't really Jewish by blood, they are Jews by conversion to Judaism. These are two very different things.

Speaking of Jews, you should also be asking yourself why did Jews fund Hitler in Nazi Germany? Why were Jews funding the extermination of "Jews"? Myron Fagan has some interesting things to say on this topic.

But even more important, you first have to ask yourself who was ruling back in Egypt. Who were the Pharaohs? What tribe or bloodline were they of? What happened to these Pharaohs? What about Pharaohs like Akhenaten who came in and changed the Egyptian god from Amen to Aten? What about the "Aten" worshipers? Is it really so much a Jewish Cult or is it an Atonist Cult? Also, keep in mind, the Windsors ruling in Britain right now are not British, they are also German like the Rothschilds...

The motto is ordo ad chao -- order out of chaos. Things are supposed to look chaotic. It's supposed to look like things don't fit together. And in a lot of ways they don't. In a lot of ways there is infighting between different groups -- it works the same was as the Mafia. But at the highest levels, the New World Order agenda continues to advance. Things don't always go as planned. Some groups do turn on other groups. But the few at the top always manage to make the most of the dynamics at play.

I think you're already starting to figure it out. You just need to research the origins of many of these organizations more. The Illuminati and the bankers are not on different sides. Also, the Illuminati and the Vatican are not on different sides, despite what movies like Angels and Demons tell us. The present day Illuminati was founded by a Jesuit Priest...

We're so far removed from how things really work and from what words really mean that it takes us forever to trace back the pieces. For example, we hear all the time the word antisemitic and assume it means Jew. Jews aren't the only semites. Anybody descending from Shem, which oh by the way all of the Middle East claims Ishmael as their father are also semites. And moreover, which Jew?
 
All of this hoopla and not one single person has name dropped the biggest single power in the world today.. Illuminati? The Rothschilds? They can't even hold a candle to the true world power. This family is the ONLY family in the world that are STILL till this day at the helm of an Empire.

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Late to the party and if it's been said before, I'll say it again - some things bear repeating.

Lolz, the fucking Rothschilds *are* the Illuminati