ITT: UG said both sides fear monger. Gimp said the left doesn't fear monger. I pointed out that the left actually does fear monger.
Nope. Never set the left didn't fear monger. Read my older posts.
so they promote outrage and victimhood... but they aren't fear mongering?
outrage, anger, victimhood, blame... those are all mental states rooted in insecurity & fear.
Outrage, anger, victimhood, and blame aren't necessarily rooted in fear of
external threats (the type of fear the "right" embodies - and also the most potent category of fear).
Insecurity? Sure. But I never said the left wasn't insecure. I actually said the opposite earlier. They have low-self esteem like a motherfucker.
You're just saying words, bro. No substance.
Read my posts before you respond to anything else I write.
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See, what's happening here is people aren't actually reading my words. I claim that most of the right's ideology stems from fear, and everyone loses their shit like I'm attacking the right.
No dipshits. I'm not. In fact, I believe a lot of the fear is justified. But that doesn't change the fact that it's mostly all fear-based in a way leftist ideology simply isn't (with the exception of climate change, which I admitted to in an earlier post).
I'm not just talking out of my ass. My opinion is informed by
real fucking research as well as empirical evidence. Where's your data?
Additionally, my hypothesis that the left suffers from low-self esteem seems to be
substantiated by research also.
Some key takeaways:
- Liberals lack personal agency. In other words, they don't have an internal locus of control like conservatives do. While conservatives value responsibility, goal-oriented behavior, and personal accountability, liberals are far more likely to undervalue their own capacity to get shit done and change their environment. They rationalize their situation by blaming systemic injustice, etc. They project their own personal shortcomings onto "disadvantaged" groups, so it makes sense that they want "daddy" government to bail everyone out. This isn't fear-based. Their concern for others isn't based in self-preservationist fear that the right embodies. They genuinely believe people aren't capable of helping themselves, so they sympathize with them more than a conservative would. That's it. They wish someone could bail them out, so they assume others must as well.
- Liberals and conservatives differ in how they define "fairness." Liberals believe fairness = equality, whereas conservatives believe fairness = equity. These are all contingent upon certain core values, and the study goes into this in greater depth. The implications of this are pretty huge. Why would you value equality over everything else? What makes them think there's intrinsic value in equality? I'll let you do the math (hint: low self-esteem).
There are dozens of other points that could be made based off of the research, but 3 things are clear:
Liberals value equality over everything else. 2. They score low on measures of personal agency (i.e. they have an external locus of control)
3. They belief our system is inherently unjust and unfair.
Everything else follows from that. They aren't terrified of external threats so much as their wonky, insecure value system isn't compatible with what society has to offer.
Conservatives/right-wingers, on the other hand, believe our system has worked in the past, and CAN work in the future so long as we revert back to a society that values equity, personal accountability, and transcendent moral standards. Things that threaten these values and beliefs threaten the possibility of a safe, secure future that they ALREADY KNOW WORKS.
Right-wing fear is based on perceived threats to established security, justice, and opportunity.
Left-wing moral outrage/righteous indignation and lust for equality is based on the belief security, justice, and opportunity have always been fundamentally absent from society and must be achieved through "daddy." That's why they consider their insanity "progress." This is a moral crusade - NOT a preservationist defense of things that work well (i.e. fear that external threats will rock the boat or endanger security).
The baselines are completely different for both ends of the political spectrum.
TL;DR: Suck my dick.
