SCHOOL SHOOTING ... FUCK

I am playing devils advocate and you don't have a ligit argument. . . drug cartels for one are not as prevelant here in the US, drug use is but not cartels. . .

Here is another interesting figure though. . . Murder rates In the US are about average compared to other countries. . .

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

perhaps. . . The first link I dropped also adds statistics of firearm murders in self defense. . . as you mentioned earlier numbers are just number until you understand the facts/lies behind them. . .
 


but it's still higher than most 1st world countries so I don't know what to make of the numbers really. . .

I will choose freedom over government anyday of the week though. . .
 
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West Germany? Nice 80's poster.

Do you have the "this is your brain on drugs" one with the fried egg too?
 
God this is so fucking stupid it makes my head hurt. The reason this shit happens in suburbia SO INFREQUENTLY is BECAUSE of parenting, et al. But the key measurement is ratio...

Walk down a street in Detroit or Compton, instead of one guy willing to shoot 27, there are 27 all willing to shoot one or more. That's empathy? Do the fucking math. Run the odds.

That's LACK of guidance, fucko. When humans make up their own moral code, that's usually the outcome.

But here's the dealio: As fucked up as this kid's parents might have been, he was obviously well and expensively educated and exposed to other options, and he CHOSE to do this. As an Adult.

Some people are just bent, mate. This dude was fucking seriously Bent.

And there is absolutely no defense against that. You just gotta be ready. Like a trained educator with a fucking glock in a class 2 holster under her fucking blouse.

Exactly this.


Great video... It runs into the causation vs. correlation issue a bit, but I do agree that drugs can exacerbate behaviours. The one thing that is common in all cases is that there is an underlying mental illness.
 
This type of person above is the mark they appeal to. The one who wallows in the grief of the tragedy of dead children, basking in his righteous indignation.

Calmer heads understand that these children were definitely murdered, but possibly for a much more sinister motive.

the onus is on you fuck-nugget, show me proof this was anything other than a crazed gunman
 
I wholeheartedly believe SSRI's play one of the biggest roles in a lot of the shootings we've witnessed in the past. I think the number is 10-12% of people on them commit suicide or homicide.

SSRIs are used to treat depression and anxiety, which (the disorders) is most likely the cause of such violent action. The drugs aren't causing shit.
 
Gun control is the answer.

inb4 bro how am i gonna protect myself

brb let everyone get nukes to protect themselves as well
 
Man I hate to argue on the same side of any issue as hellblazer, but this massacre has all of the earmarks of media control and of course the typical attack on gun freedoms that have been ramping up a lot more often lately.

Let's do a little test, shall we?

Whenever these things happen, like it did with the movie theater dude and the campground-killer dude in Oslo, I like to see what OTHER news is going on at the same time, that this one is pushing out of the spotlight...

So here's what the whole US is focused on today:

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Meanwhile, through the magic that we critical thinkers like to call the internets, you can see what the rest of the world is reading about today:

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Hmm. Slightly different.

You'd think that the whole world would be focused on a classroom of kids being massacred today, right? Just like we here in the US focused on Norway for days after the campground massacre, right?

Nope, apparently the rest of the world thinks that some stupid, insignificant troop build-up by some evil nation is more important news...

Oh, wait a minute... That evil nation is the very one not talking about the troop build-up! I see... But let's put that aside for a second.

When the US's owners want to remove your guns, which it has been chipping away at for decades now, then they can easily put the emphasis on stories here, if not flat-out help to create those massacres in the first place, that enrages the public against guns.

This is why 90% of Americans know who Anders Brevik is right now but most countries don't have a single pecent in them who knows the name of today's shooter.

Add to this fact the hiding of our troop build-up on the syrian border and the US gov has not one but TWO motives to be behind today's attack. (And that's from just a cursory glance at CNN.)

I'm not saying that the US government was definitely drugging and brainwashing this bastard into murdering all these kids, but you gotta admit, the outcome in the media is so very convenient for those that want to take away your guns and keep the war machine alive in the middle east.

I honestly don't know how far down the rabbit hole goes... But all I know is this shit happens too often now, and always, always, always benefits those who want to take away your freedoms and preserve the war machine that Ike warned us all about.


Fuck you for thinking a school shooting is a government conspiracy rather than a random act of insanity.
Why is everything so black and white with you dchuk? Can't there be a possibility of a little bit of conspiracy behind this, such as the white house seeing a massacre in progress and using that opportunity to further their agenda with gun laws and escalate war in the mideast while we're so distracted? He didn't say he believed that the MK-Ultra program is still around and they used it on this kid for sure... Conspiracies can reside on any shade of gray inbetween innocence and guilty.

And when better to partake in one than during a national tragedy that causes thousands of people like you to irrationally defend against any talk of conspiracy?


The reason I am so pissed at you doubting idiots is because as soon as you cast doubt on this tragedy you're trivializing the real problem here - that a bunch of innocent adults and completely innocent young children were murdered in cold blood.
I hear you, but you're acting on emotion here, and not letting yourself see the long term trend. You're acting like a woman, so chill!

If you just write today's events off as too sacred to investigate like they did with 9/11, then the evil benefactors get away with it again, just like they did with 9/11. (No matter if they somehow instigated today's events or just used it to their benefit.)

Either way it is YOU that are helping evil to keep happening with that attitude. You're setting or reinforcing a precedent that basically makes it taboo to question authority when bad things happen. Is that logical?

The powers of the state are without limit when everyone thinks your way.
 
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I don't need to support evidence because no one knows the fully story.. That's like saying you believe in God because of a book, yet no one really knows if he really even exists to begin with.. I don't care if my conspiracy is out there, you can't disprove it unless you were the shooter himself. And seeing as he's dead now, we'll.. No one will ever know if there was anything being hidden. Sure a crazy guy makes complete sense, but how do you really know there wasn't anything else to the story.. You and I both don't, we have the same info/news.

I'm not attacking anyone, I'm not trying to disrespect any of the families, I'm saying this was a horrible act of violence nonetheless. But all I'm saying is keep and open mind.. I show sympathy to all those who died, their families, etc. but that doesn't mean I should just believe what the media says..

Not being offensive to anyone, there is nothing wrong with asking questions. I'm not saying or confirming there was some hidden agenda, I'm just explaining to keep an open mind.

Shut the fuck up you worthless piece of shit.


Also it's not surprising our resident idiot, LukeP is making us all a little more retarded once again.
 
I cant believe how many retarded, conspiracy minded assholes have shit in this thread... And on top of that comes the "Gun Control" talk again? Are you fucking serious? How ignorant are you people?

Guns don't kill people... People kill people!

Address the fucking problem and here is a hint: It's not guns. That's just an easy target for the intellectually lazy sheeple to get behind.

Nobody wants to face the reality that our society has a huge propensity for violence. Couple that with fact that our youth are completely over medicated and in general are lacking of a moral compass. Our families are broken, our children are neglected and our government is too busy policing the world to fix half the problems in our own fucking country!

Nobody wants to tackle that, because that requires REAL work, REAL change. Instead, let's just ban guns... Yeah, that's the ticket! Dumbfucks!
 
Page 5 - we're still talking about shit that just happened hours ago.

Page 9 - Outrage at something else tenuously linked to this.

Page 22 - Pro-gun vs Anti-gun debate goes round in circles.

Page 31 - Stunning photo of an amazing female ass is posted and all is ok again.

Page 34 - Google update: lots of shaking fists.

or something.

Look at that, we didn'd even have to wait page 22, can we just ffwd to 31?
 
LOL at thinking the solution is to arm more people.

So let's arm teachers! Then when a teacher flips out and kills some students we'll just arm students!