Shopify or Volusion or WP eComm or ?????

Used to use oscommerce but switched to opencart. The support for opencart is no where near what oscommerce used to be. However, I've been able to get opencart to do most things I want.
 


There was a thread in design board on here a while back that had an excellent discussion about speeding up to fuck and run like a normal site. Can't recall if that included the back-end side too or not, you'd have to search for it, but it sounded like it was some solid advice.

Thanks for bringing this up. I work with magento daily. Even though its a pain in the neck to work with it, we need all of the features and what not it is capably of.

Im pretty sure this is the thread http://www.wickedfire.com/products-merchants/100714-how-increase-magento-performance.html I also found Magento - Methods To Speed Up Magento - A Guide To Making Magento Faster - How do I? Questions - eCommerce Software for Growth both of which I will be reading first thing tomorrow morning.
 
I think Shopify is a good idea if you're still trying to find product/market fit. Keep your costs down in the beginning and if you do get product/market fit go invest more to go with woocommerce so you have more control over everything.
 
^^I like OpenCart too. The only thing is when you get it modded (if you do), updates might be a little harder if any of the previous code used was changed.
 
Another thing to consider is free is not FREE! Woocommerce + hosting + themes + plugins + ssl cert + plugin maintenance costs after year 1 + time can easily outweigh the monthly cost of something like shopify. Focus on marketing, not technical crap.
 
If I had the time and resources I'd seriously consider building a new ecom platform to destroy all the others out there.

If I had the time and resources I'd seriously consider building a new ecom platform

If I had the time and resources I'd seriously consider...

If I had the time and resources...

No Offense, Bat, but...FUCKING STOP, ALREADY.

If you have a viable product with serious traffic, then pay the fucking money for Shopify or another serious hosted ecom platform.

Jesus Fucking Christ, who has time for this shit?
 
Another thing to consider is free is not FREE! Woocommerce + hosting + themes + plugins + ssl cert + plugin maintenance costs after year 1 + time can easily outweigh the monthly cost of something like shopify. Focus on marketing, not technical crap.

Virtually all of the WooCommerce plugins are GPL licensed so you can get them for free if you know where to look.

Yes it is slightly more work to maintain it yourself than to pay for an outside hosted cart and have them manage it. The benefit of this is you get absolute control over your site and the ability to edit or change anything you want, something you lose with a cart hosted by a 3rd party. The ability to make customization and so called "technical crap" can be very very important for ecommerce stores.
 
I have used quite a few of them, Woo, Magento, OSComm, Opencart, Zencart, ASP storefront, bigcommerce, Amazon webstore, veracart.
Amazon webstore is a nightmare.
I have never used shopify or presta.

For my needs Magento seems to win in each case as long as you optimize it so it doesn't take a long time to load. There is a huge user base, ton's of plugin's and it very versatile.
I agree with adamx12m and UnarmedGunman that once you get into woocommerce you think it is free, but unless you are willing to fark with the source code (and carefully consider each Woo update) you are going to be paying quite a bit to get all the features you need that would normally be free with an open source platform or semi open source such as Magento.
Curious to find those GPL licenses aesin mentioned. Shoot me a PM or share more please.

Bigcommerce, give me a farking break...closed source so you can't change shit if you need to customize something that they don't handle....and there is quite a bit of features that are lacking...they do make it easy for the non programmer 1 man show to get rolling though. Imagine this if you are on bigcommerce, you have a data feed with 20k products and it is the same 20k products that 200 of your competitors have. You can't create a script to automate rewriting of the title, meta, description etc. If you are thinking about SEO it is tough to compete if you have the same title, meta, product description, product name, etc. as 200 other online shops.Yes, you could do this locally first but if you have products that change every month or two it can get to be pain when doing bulk work.

Magento wins for me, after that I prefer Opencart, OScomm, and Woo, but paying for each little feature on Woo get's tiresomeand expensive.
 
[/B]Curious to find those GPL licenses aesin mentioned. Shoot me a PM or share more please.


WP Avengers Club Membership - alternative store for WooCommerce plugins and themes - coming soon is the easiest way to get them for free. Updates can take a couple of weeks to get pushed out to the dashboard. If you're super concerned about getting the updates faster than that I'd pay $10 to get them off sozot.com or find someone you know that is already paying for it and have them email the updated plugin to you. All the official WooCommerce plugins are GPL licensed so downloading them for free is 100% legal.
 
Had little experience with WooCommerce for about 100 products. Was good, only minor customizations needed.

I've dealt with opencart with over 20k skus. Never again as it was a nightmare customizing it to what i needed (and some were very obvious things that open cart should have had)

Personally, if I was to do it again with a buttload of products, I may either try WooCommerce or Shopify.