contradictions in the same breath make me roflcopter
So I got sanbxed/slapped/fucked what can I do to get out?
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contradictions in the same breath make me roflcopter
Same here LOL.
StingVeyron said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Free directory links? If they're free, how large do you think the OBL would be? Is that good for sites? "Relevant sites only?" Not necessarily. If a search engine "sees" a bunch of comments for random niches, and a bunch of spam comments from related sites (all for the same URL), it'll be too obvious that your link spamming.
I'm not doubting your knowledge when it comes to SEO, but those 2 techniques you posted made you look like an SEO failure.
But hell, I'm probably not even half-right. No one knows the algorithm to Google's search engines. You just have to experiment and see.
StingVeyron is right, maybe not down with the free quality directory links, can you ever have a free and quality at the same time?
What's happening with social bookmarking these days? I read on a de-sandboxing thread linked earler on this thread that bookmarking is really good, and a lot of SEOs have completely dropped it after it's stopped giving immediate SERP boost the way it did back in 2008.
The guy was saying that social media does go viral and it's possible to get 1000 links to a page built up in 3-4 days organically if someone does go viral.
However, xrumer forum profile links and SB block commenting is obviously silly. Because its not humanly possible to fill out all these pofiles and comments, and no 3rd party ever puts someone else's url in their forum profiles or scrapebox comment, in an "organic" scenario.
My plan as stated above now is to guest post on PR5 websites, creating high quality college essay quality articles and placig them on themenatically similar websites.
I already got a PR5 link from a homepage for free, which I'm chuffed about.
What's happening with social bookmarking these days? I read on a de-sandboxing thread linked earler on this thread that bookmarking is really good, and a lot of SEOs have completely dropped it after it's stopped giving immediate SERP boost the way it did back in 2008.
The guy was saying that social media does go viral and it's possible to get 1000 links to a page built up in 3-4 days organically if someone does go viral.
However, xrumer forum profile links and SB block commenting is obviously silly. Because its not humanly possible to fill out all these pofiles and comments, and no 3rd party ever puts someone else's url in their forum profiles or scrapebox comment, in an "organic" scenario.
My plan as stated above now is to guest post on PR5 websites, creating high quality college essay quality articles and placig them on themenatically similar websites.
I already got a PR5 link from a homepage for free, which I'm chuffed about.
I have to add that I haven't been doing just spamming.
1) I had plenty of ezine articles published
2) I wrote well thought out and relevant blog comments to articles related to my niche
3) I slowly built up 10 forum accounts on niche related and webmaster forums each with 30 posts, and built up slowly over time
4) I did a scrapebox comment spam, and got around 2000 total backlinks to date according to yahoo site explorer
5) I created 24 web2.0 blogs with 4 spun articles each 500 word average
6) I bought that 5 hoth package, and the site dropped 40 positions
7) I bought 5000 xrumer profile links and pinged them immediately, and the site got sandboxed
So the site wasn't doing too bad until I got desperate around #6, I have to add though that I bought an brand new registered exact match domain, just before 6, so when I ran the hoth, the domain was a month old.
I follishly transfeered all the links from the old domain to the new as well, which was silly, because I think the 301 from the old domain could have taken some heat from the "new domain" prejudice.
1) I had plenty of ezine articles published
2) I wrote well thought out and relevant blog comments to articles related to my niche
3) I slowly built up 10 forum accounts on niche related and webmaster forums each with 30 posts, and built up slowly over time
4) I did a scrapebox comment spam, and got around 2000 total backlinks to date according to yahoo site explorer
5) I created 24 web2.0 blogs with 4 spun articles each 500 word average
6) I bought that 5 hoth package, and the site dropped 40 positions
7) I bought 5000 xrumer profile links and pinged them immediately, and the site got sandboxed
So the site wasn't doing too bad until I got desperate around #6, I have to add though that I bought an brand new registered exact match domain, just before 6, so when I ran the hoth, the domain was a month old.
I follishly transfeered all the links from the old domain to the new as well, which was silly, because I think the 301 from the old domain could have taken some heat from the "new domain" prejudice.
Don't stop link building. Go on building more and more links. Diversify your anchors. You will eventually get out of sandbox.
I was dropped Sept 24 and have stayed there... no sign of getting out. I've tried everything.. this was in a very profitable niche.
feels bad man...
this is my thread - http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/103184-what-does-penalty-look-like-did-i-get-one.html
feels bad man...
this is my thread - http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/103184-what-does-penalty-look-like-did-i-get-one.html
So much negativity.
Keep building more sites. Some sites not working should be part of the plan.
A little positivity. I just ranked 4 brand new sites to page one, semi competitive keywords; with crappy links (total time 2 weeks). Just keep on rolling that snow ball.
Keep building more sites. Some sites not working should be part of the plan.
A little positivity. I just ranked 4 brand new sites to page one, semi competitive keywords; with crappy links (total time 2 weeks). Just keep on rolling that snow ball.
Think of your link building strategy as a bulleye target.
1. (Outer ring). Free Directories (if done by mass) - 50-200 per month.
2. Paid Directories (Business.com, JoeAnt, etc.)
3. Article Directories / Social Bookmark Submissions
4. Blog Posts (150-175 words) - relevant blogs only (PPP). Social BMs.
5. Relevant Links (TLA)
6. (Bullseye) InfoGraphics / Natuaral Links / Link Bait Techniques
Once the outer-ring methods are used, focus on the rest every month. Relevancy and quality content are key. Also, avoid sites that have site-wide links. We've seen and tested that G is discrediting this technique, although that could be up for debate.
As far as Xrumer and other techniques listed here, use caution, if done right (relevancy), and limited, I'd place as an outer-ring technique, in terms of importance.
If you look at your link building strategy as a whole, following the bullseye method will reduce sandbox and penalties. I know, since its our job to rank clients high, and not get them blacklisted. Technique above has worked in mutiples, without one sandboxed client.
Additional notes:
301 redirect was a good idea. Unless that was a poor neighborhood type site.
Also, if the domain is new, you will rank well for 2-6 weeks, if your site is relevant and stickly, Google will then place you where it feels you belong. This is when you focus on the potent link building samples ive noted above (inner-rings), using 25-40% anchors, padded with other anchors, followed by some domain brand anchors.
1. (Outer ring). Free Directories (if done by mass) - 50-200 per month.
2. Paid Directories (Business.com, JoeAnt, etc.)
3. Article Directories / Social Bookmark Submissions
4. Blog Posts (150-175 words) - relevant blogs only (PPP). Social BMs.
5. Relevant Links (TLA)
6. (Bullseye) InfoGraphics / Natuaral Links / Link Bait Techniques
Once the outer-ring methods are used, focus on the rest every month. Relevancy and quality content are key. Also, avoid sites that have site-wide links. We've seen and tested that G is discrediting this technique, although that could be up for debate.
As far as Xrumer and other techniques listed here, use caution, if done right (relevancy), and limited, I'd place as an outer-ring technique, in terms of importance.
If you look at your link building strategy as a whole, following the bullseye method will reduce sandbox and penalties. I know, since its our job to rank clients high, and not get them blacklisted. Technique above has worked in mutiples, without one sandboxed client.
Additional notes:
301 redirect was a good idea. Unless that was a poor neighborhood type site.
Also, if the domain is new, you will rank well for 2-6 weeks, if your site is relevant and stickly, Google will then place you where it feels you belong. This is when you focus on the potent link building samples ive noted above (inner-rings), using 25-40% anchors, padded with other anchors, followed by some domain brand anchors.
What I mean is, doing the 301 to a newly registered domain + editing the backlinks to point to the new domain, effectively made it a brand new site, and I should have treated it like a brand new site. I didn't, and xrumered it. That's what I meant.
I was dropped Sept 24 and have stayed there... no sign of getting out. I've tried everything.. this was in a very profitable niche.
feels bad man...
this is my thread - http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/103184-what-does-penalty-look-like-did-i-get-one.html
What do you mean by "tried everything"? can you elaborate on that.
I acquired
PR5 page link
PR3 page link [duplicate printer friendly view of page above]
PR4 page link
PR3 page nofollow link
PR2 page link
PR1 page link
I've only recently just acquired these links, some of the pages are breaking through, I have 2 main URLs that have been sandboxed and they are at the end of the serps, the root page is still sandboxed but the secondary link is breaking through from page 99 to page 64. So there is some hope.
But I think it will take 2-3 months before it breaks through.
I'm trying to do some white hat seo and do guest blogging for pr7+ websites, it's tough I think they get offers all the time so don't respond to emails much.
WHite hat is annoying, but I think it's necessary, and more long lasting than spammy seo.
PR5 page link
PR3 page link [duplicate printer friendly view of page above]
PR4 page link
PR3 page nofollow link
PR2 page link
PR1 page link
I've only recently just acquired these links, some of the pages are breaking through, I have 2 main URLs that have been sandboxed and they are at the end of the serps, the root page is still sandboxed but the secondary link is breaking through from page 99 to page 64. So there is some hope.
But I think it will take 2-3 months before it breaks through.
I'm trying to do some white hat seo and do guest blogging for pr7+ websites, it's tough I think they get offers all the time so don't respond to emails much.
WHite hat is annoying, but I think it's necessary, and more long lasting than spammy seo.
The problem with blog comments is that you end up putting your links around viagra and penis links + using competitive commercial KWs as anchor text = SERP penalty
it's too easy to spot for an algorithm.
Check you anchor text distribution profile to see if you created too many links with the same anchor text.
Keep creating new authoritative links without using competitive anchor text and pray google every morning but I still think your fucked...
it's too easy to spot for an algorithm.
Check you anchor text distribution profile to see if you created too many links with the same anchor text.
Keep creating new authoritative links without using competitive anchor text and pray google every morning but I still think your fucked...
It is Google dance , dont worry , will come back to 14 in 2 days max
it happen with me many times
it happen with me many times
lol @ 2 days max, its been like this since christmas eve, some timing.. I know.
I think it will be down for 3-6 months.