Soccer Know Your Roll

See, that's what it comes down to more than anything else; the American superiority complex. "We're better than everyone else", "our sport is better than all others", "the rest of the world is wrong and we're right", "Europeans are a bunch of pansies", "we don't give a shit what the world thinks of us", etc. etc. etc.

Is it any wonder why Americans are generally disliked everywhere they go? Is it any wonder why the ignorant American stereotype exists?

I give America a lot of fucking credit. Comparing to other countries that were formally developed, America was one of the last countries to get on it's feet and become a world power so quickly. There was pretty developed civilization in Spain before even the USA had brick homes. We fucking accelerated in growth very quickly, even though we were initially aided by Britain.

People in our countries do say that American's are this and that, but really, our country has grown much quicker in the past 300 years than any other country.

I believe I read the other day in an article that US caters to the most millionaires in the world. That in it own self speaks volume.

Either way, none of this pertains to Soccer. I actually don't see how it's possible to compare the both to each other considering they require different skills.
 


C'mon... you gotta give both sports respect. Arguing over which one is better than the other is dumb because its all just opinion.

Regardless, whenever the Superbowl, World Cup, Stanley Cup, or the World Series comes on, I am STOKED, because ALL sports rule.
 
I've played both sports (football for 2 years, soccer for 10 years on and off) at a high school level in a city where both soccer and football are taken pretty seriously. I've played every position in soccer, and I was the right defensive end for my football team, as well as kicker/punter. My brother is a top national pick for some of the big football universities across Canada and has received half a dozen invitation letters already (he's not even half way through his first senior year). So, I've been around and played both sports for a decently long time, and BOTH sports take a ridiculous amount of skill at any higher level of play.

I (personally) prefer soccer because it requires a good bit more finesse and athleticism compared to football, although there's some ridiculously atheletic people playing football. Only difference between the fitness levels of players in soccer vs. football is that everyone in a professional soccer game is fit, while a lot of football players are simply there because they're big enough that someone isn't just going to tear through them. I'm definitely not saying there's no skill involved in being an offensive tackle, just that the level of fitness required to be effective in the position is nowhere near what any position in soccer would require.

I'm not going to search through this thread to find who said it (I'll assume it was supernova), but someone keeps saying that soccer players just "boot the ball back and forth across the field". Have you ever even watched a professional soccer game? These people have ridiculous accuracy when passing so when you see them 'booting' the ball across the field, they're probably just making some ridiculous 200 foot pass. That or they're in a bad situation and the logical thing to do is to clear the ball and get it away from your end. It happens in every sport, including football. In hockey, people clear the puck CONSTANTLY. In football, most of the time on a 4th down with more than a few yards to go, the offense will just punt the ball. How is that any different?

Most of the arguments here sound like they're coming from completely biased places and it goes nowhere because of that. How about people just state what their experiences are with the sports before they start bashing people? I don't really care to listen to someone who's watched soccer on TV twice bash the sport, nor do I care to listen to someone bash football for being a meathead sport despite never actually playing it.

All sports can be boring as fuck until you play it. If you've never played something like darts, I couldn't imagine that you'd watch it and enjoy it all that much, but as soon as you play the game semi-seriously you realize how ridiculously good these people are at what they do and it becomes interesting all of a sudden.

Have you PLAYED the sport? If not, go try it and get a clue.
 
I'm not going to search through this thread to find who said it (I'll assume it was supernova), but someone keeps saying that soccer players just "boot the ball back and forth across the field". Have you ever even watched a professional soccer game? These people have ridiculous accuracy when passing so when you see them 'booting' the ball across the field, they're probably just making some ridiculous 200 foot pass. That or they're in a bad situation and the logical thing to do is to clear the ball and get it away from your end. It happens in every sport, including football. In hockey, people clear the puck CONSTANTLY. In football, most of the time on a 4th down with more than a few yards to go, the offense will just punt the ball. How is that any different?

How many punts are there in a football game? A couple or few per quarter (depending on how the game is going)? So maybe 7-10 punts per game (again depending on how the teams do). Even if the boots in soccer are just super long passes, they happen so frequently it's boring to watch. "Pass" it all the way down field, have it stolen, pass it all the way back down field, repeat. That's what makes soccer so boring. I never said it didn't take a lot of skill.

My opinion is biased yeah, but biased on my own experience. I've played soccer, been to many many real soccer games (not professional), and watched professional soccer on TV. It's not exciting until someone gets a decent shot on goal or goal, which doesn't happen that often. Who wants to constantly watch games that end end up 1-0, 2-0, 1-1, etc?

In regards to hockey, the same thing does happen with clearing the puck. The nice thing about hockey is it's played on a much smaller area. So while there's as much clearing as in soccer, there's more action, more shots on goal, more goals, better shootouts. Oh yeah, there's hitting and fighting too. Those padded pussies.
 
How many punts are there in a football game? A couple or few per quarter (depending on how the game is going)? So maybe 7-10 punts per game (again depending on how the teams do). Even if the boots in soccer are just super long passes, they happen so frequently it's boring to watch. "Pass" it all the way down field, have it stolen, pass it all the way back down field, repeat. That's what makes soccer so boring. I never said it didn't take a lot of skill.

The NFL games I've been watching lately have been back and forth punting, non-stop. It's making me want to stop watching entirely. 3 downs, punt, 3 downs, punt, repeat. Maybe it's just me.

By the way, the skill thing wasn't directed at you, just this thread in general.
 
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The NFL games I've been watching lately have been back and forth punting, non-stop. It's making me want to stop watching entirely. 3 downs, punt, 3 downs, punt, repeat. Maybe it's just me.

Yeah I think you're watching the wrong games. Probably watching the Bills like me, which I agree is not fun to watch.

The NE/IND game last week was incredible though, came down to the last seconds, high scoring, great match up.