Strikeforce on Showtime now.. Fedor vs Henderson soon.

Ahh.. I am disappoint.

Oh well, next Saturday on Showtime is a kelly pavlik boxing match.. He's from Youngstown OH, about 20 mins from me. He beat Jermain Taylor 2 times, but got his ass schooled by Bernard Hopkins, and Sergio Martinez.

He's trying to make a comeback. I shall watch.
 


Really happy for Miesha's taint. She deserved the win for sure.

Fedor needs to retire though. He's still a humble, honest man but his time has come. He got by beating on cans in Japan and never fighting top level guys. He just got beat by a guy who fights at middleweight.....
 
dreamache said:
Ahh.. I am disappoint.

Oh well, next Saturday on Showtime is a kelly pavlik boxing match.. He's from Youngstown OH, about 20 mins from me. He beat Jermain Taylor 2 times, but got his ass schooled by Bernard Hopkins, and Sergio Martinez.

He's trying to make a comeback. I shall watch.
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Lol niiiiice, ytown baby. I went to high school at Poland, college at Kent State. Good to see someone else into IM from the 330.

Yea last I heard from people i talk to back there was that he was getting over a bad drinking problem. i think that could have had something to do with his last few losses as well, who knows though. he is a NASTY boxer, hope he continues to rise in fame. that whole mahoning/trumbull area needs ANYTHING positive it can get.

also, i'm just looking forward to seeing nick diaz get destroyed by GSP. i feel gsp is one of the few people that can actually technically dismantle diaz and hang stamina-wise too.
 
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I'm usually a big fan of ref Herb Dean, but I really didn't like that stoppage. Too early.
 
magcshroom said:
Really happy for Miesha's taint. She deserved the win for sure.

Fedor needs to retire though. He's still a humble, honest man but his time has come. He got by beating on cans in Japan and never fighting top level guys. He just got beat by a guy who fights at middleweight.....
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Ricardo Arona
Renato Sobral
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Mirko Filipovic
Mark Coleman
Matt Lindland
Andrei Arlovski

Are just a few of the people that Fedor whooped up on. Most were in their prime.
 
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Yeah I totally missed the "beating on cans in Japan" remark. Unfortunately, that's a typical opinion of people who haven't really followed MMA for long. For the 5-6 years before PrideFC folded, he was consistently dominating (not just beating) top heavyweights. He could have very easily cut to 205, but never has, often being at a significant weight disadvantage.

The weight remark reminds me of when Crocop faught Wanderlei, when people don't usually realize that Wanderlei weighed in heavier than Crocop did.

Long story short is he was dominating the best in the world in their prime for a stretch of time that's similar to what GSP or Anderson Silva has been doing now.
 
^ Yes, also when Fedor was dominating PRIDE FC, people don't understand how ridiculously weak the HW division was in the UFC, Andrei Arlovski was the top dog and the only noteworthy fight those days were the series of fights between him and Tim Sylvia. Bottom line is Fedor is past his best days and MMA competition has also stepped up considerably in terms of difficulty.

During the height of Pride, you had guys like, Nogueira, Vovchanchyn, Fedor's bro Aleks, Werdum, Schilt, Yvel, Herring, Cro-Cop, Kerr, Barnett, Coleman, Randleman, Kharitonov all in the HW division and I'm sure I'm missing some. Fedor stood out from all of them. He fought a lot of these guys and beat them all decisively. Pride was simply the #1 place to be during 2002-2006 if you were an MMA fighter in terms of money, exposure and competition.

In the UFC during the same era you had Arlovski beating up guys like Justin Eilers while also fighting Tim Sylvia 3x. Also not to mention that a very green and undersized Brandon Vera was considered a contender in the UFC HW division just shows you have laughable it was compared to PRIDE at the time.
 
kingscotty38 said:
^ Yes, also when Fedor was dominating PRIDE FC, people don't understand how ridiculously weak the HW division was in the UFC, Andrei Arlovski was the top dog and the only noteworthy fight those days were the series of fights between him and Tim Sylvia. Bottom line is Fedor is past his best days and MMA competition has also stepped up considerably in terms of difficulty.

During the height of Pride, you had guys like, Nogueira, Vovchanchyn, Fedor's bro Aleks, Werdum, Schilt, Yvel, Herring, Cro-Cop, Kerr, Barnett, Coleman, Randleman, Kharitonov all in the HW division and I'm sure I'm missing some. Fedor stood out from all of them. He fought a lot of these guys and beat them all decisively. Pride was simply the #1 place to be during 2002-2006 if you were an MMA fighter in terms of money, exposure and competition.

In the UFC during the same era you had Arlovski beating up guys like Justin Eilers while also fighting Tim Sylvia 3x. Also not to mention that a very green and undersized Brandon Vera was considered a contender in the UFC HW division just shows you have laughable it was compared to PRIDE at the time.
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Amen. Would be interesting to see Fedor cut to 205 though if he decides to stay in it.
 
potentialeight said:
Amen. Would be interesting to see Fedor cut to 205 though if he decides to stay in it.
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205 is definitely the weight class his body is made for. However, I don't see him having any bargaining power to get back into the mix without taking a significant paycut.

He's been scraping by these last few years fighting scrubs like glass chin Arlovski and Brett "Domestic Assault" Rogers.

He's now dropped 3 straight to middle of heap people in Big Foot and Werdum and Dan, who I consider a top of the heap LHW.

His whole mystique is lost and while I really like Fedor as a person he needs to go. From this point on he will only tarnish his reputation.
 
magcshroom said:
205 is definitely the weight class his body is made for. However, I don't see him having any bargaining power to get back into the mix without taking a significant paycut.

He's been scraping by these last few years fighting scrubs like glass chin Arlovski and Brett "Domestic Assault" Rogers.

He's now dropped 3 straight to middle of heap people in Big Foot and Werdum and Dan, who I consider a top of the heap LHW.

His whole mystique is lost and while I really like Fedor as a person he needs to go. From this point on he will only tarnish his reputation.
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Kind of hard to call Arlovski a scrub when he was a top 6 heavyweight when he faught Fedor, and hadn't lost in over 3 years at the time. His only 2 losses in the past 7 years at the time were in UFC title fights.
 
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