Substances to Spark Inspiration



Fatbat said:
Yeah, I suspect some strains are worse than others, sativa vs indica and crazy hybrids. Unless your dealer really knows his bud, or you grow it yourself, you never know what you're getting though.

It used to be that I would smoke for focus and to relieve stress but then one day, after smoking pretty much every day for 10 years, something changed (like a switch in my head), and what was meant to relieve stress actually started to amplify it. All of life's problems got a whole lot worse, even though they weren't really that bad. It got to the point where I had a few full on breakdowns where I thought I was dying, panic and anxiety to the extreme.

I guess it didn't help that I lived in BC where the weed is uber potent. I grew some myself here in Spain and it was mostly fine. Although I had a couple episodes, it wasn't nearly as bad as back home. I find if I only smoke socially after a couple drinks while hanging out with friends it's ok. I start to freak out when I sit down in front of the computer and look at the to do list.
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The 'like a switch in my head' part,

Do you remember if during the months preceding, weeks, or days... you had something boiling up inside of you - but were not for some reason addressing it... you were just letting it sit there. Maybe breaking up with a girl, someone close that died, or maybe something about work that infuriated you and you were just avoiding thinking about it altogether?

Just curious, feel free to PM if it's personal/you don't want to forum post about it.
 
Alcohol is a super saturated sugar. I find it mentally stimulating to a point. Sometimes I'll have a strong beer like " arrogant bastard ale 7.2% 1 pt " and literally set fire to my keyboard, and have a good time doing it.
Crystal Meth would do wonders, but I'd like to keep my teeth.
 
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zimok said:
The 'like a switch in my head' part,

Do you remember if during the months preceding, weeks, or days... you had something boiling up inside of you - but were not for some reason addressing it... you were just letting it sit there. Maybe breaking up with a girl, someone close that died, or maybe something about work that infuriated you and you were just avoiding thinking about it altogether?

Just curious, feel free to PM if it's personal/you don't want to forum post about it.
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Nothing unusual off the top of my head, just the regular stresses of life I think and perhaps lack of physical exercise. I tend to bite off more than I can chew, like working a day job, entrepreneurial stuff plus freelance work to make ends meet, and it's usually manageable, but if I smoke I think I'm completely fucked.
 
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Well, I ended up getting too drunk to do anything productive accept laugh at myself for laughing and yell at the cat for being so fucking sneaky.

I learned my lesson, getting drunk is fun... But, not while working.
 
Fatbat, the exact same thing happened to me. I was a heavy everyday smoker for 5-6 years and then all of a sudden bam, it gave me terrifying panic attacks. Actually made me develop a full blown panic disorder, took a while to get back to normal again. I mean i had some other more serious drug history that may have attributed to it, but still.

Im around weed everyday still, and people smoke it all the time around me, I dont really care, just know I cant smoke it anymore myself.
 
Roundabout said:
What happens, you get panic attacks while stoned? One of my close friends suffers from anxiety and claims when he gets stoned, his anxiety completely goes away.. yet I know a few others who claim that weed brings it on.

I think it might due to the strain of weed you purchase, some people claim one strain calms anxiety, etc. while the other is more volatile.
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Fatbat said:
Yeah, I suspect some strains are worse than others, sativa vs indica and crazy hybrids. Unless your dealer really knows his bud, or you grow it yourself, you never know what you're getting though.

It used to be that I would smoke for focus and to relieve stress but then one day, after smoking pretty much every day for 10 years, something changed (like a switch in my head), and what was meant to relieve stress actually started to amplify it. All of life's problems got a whole lot worse, even though they weren't really that bad. It got to the point where I had a few full on breakdowns where I thought I was dying, panic and anxiety to the extreme.

I guess it didn't help that I lived in BC where the weed is uber potent. I grew some myself here in Spain and it was mostly fine. Although I had a couple episodes, it wasn't nearly as bad as back home. I find if I only smoke socially after a couple drinks while hanging out with friends it's ok. I start to freak out when I sit down in front of the computer and look at the to do list.
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I get all paranoid while smoking weed which is why I rarely smoke it. I found all types of weed i've done had brought on anxiety but some, a lot more than others.

One strain in particular, not sure what is was, but it really fucked me up bad lol
 
Substances are just short term solutions that cause long terms problems. Yet I continue to use them. FML.
 
Fatbat said:
Yeah, I suspect some strains are worse than others, sativa vs indica and crazy hybrids. Unless your dealer really knows his bud, or you grow it yourself, you never know what you're getting though.

It used to be that I would smoke for focus and to relieve stress but then one day, after smoking pretty much every day for 10 years, something changed (like a switch in my head), and what was meant to relieve stress actually started to amplify it. All of life's problems got a whole lot worse, even though they weren't really that bad. It got to the point where I had a few full on breakdowns where I thought I was dying, panic and anxiety to the extreme.

I guess it didn't help that I lived in BC where the weed is uber potent. I grew some myself here in Spain and it was mostly fine. Although I had a couple episodes, it wasn't nearly as bad as back home. I find if I only smoke socially after a couple drinks while hanging out with friends it's ok. I start to freak out when I sit down in front of the computer and look at the to do list.
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This is pretty much exactly what happened to me. My anxiety attacks started while doing far worse drugs, the kind that can actually kill you. But my 10+ year weed habit continues on....

My problem is I can't stop smoking the ganja. About 50% of the time I have a bad high. Paranoia, focusing on death and fears, guilt & regret, guilt about sketchy CPA offers (lol), impending doom, racing heart, odd feelings in my chest. Good times.

I've tried quitting but after so many years I am full on addicted.
 
b_sun said:
This is pretty much exactly what happened to me. My anxiety attacks started while doing far worse drugs, the kind that can actually kill you. But my 10+ year weed habit continues on....

My problem is I can't stop smoking the ganja. About 50% of the time I have a bad high. Paranoia, focusing on death and fears, guilt & regret, guilt about sketchy CPA offers (lol), impending doom, racing heart, odd feelings in my chest. Good times.

I've tried quitting but after so many years I am full on addicted.
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Let me just add my anxiety attack while stoned story here too.

I was a daily smoker for 4ish years. Things in my free wheeling life started to unravel and anxiety set in. One night, I was enjoying some bong hits, when I had my first full blown panic attack. I lost it. I freaked. I thought I was dying. I thought I was literally going crazy. I was having weird thoughts and couldn't focus. I felt like I was mentally unraveling. I woke my roommate up and told him I needed to go to the hospital. He called 911 thinking someone had dosed my weed with dust or something. It was hands down the most horrible experience of my life. I was in the hospital for a few hours, until eventually they told me I was fine, and could go home.

From that day forward, every time I smoked, I felt terrible. I had weird, LOUD, intrusive thoughts about death and dying, about going crazy, panic attacks and so on.

I hadn't smoked in 8 years. But, I smoked a joint about a year ago. Frankly, I miss it some times. I remember the fun it was. Just like before, though, I started getting panicky. I hadn't had a panic attack in a few years, but I could feel one coming on. It was no problem talking myself though it, but that closed the door on ever smoking pot again.

It was kinda like this:

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But a lot less funny.
 
They say weed can summon "the demon" from inside you. It's that feeling where you suddenly realize you're stoned, and your mind begins thinking about a million different things, one after another, and you experience a kind of deja vu where you begin to fear your own thoughts, your heart races, and you no longer want to be stoned for fear of just losing it.

This all stems from CONTROL. Anxiety does as well. Those of us who have these issues have underlying control issues (fear of losing control). That's it in a nutshell, really.

Play out the scene in your head.. worst case is.. I go to the ER. Tell yourself your high will go away. And go slow, there's no need to rip bong hits 10 times in 10 minutes, know what level you're comfortable at and smoke just a hairline above it.

And for God's sake, have a woman beside you when you're smoking. Stoned sex will cure your anxiety nervosa for sure.
 
Just going to drop in here not to do K when ur planning on getting work done, you wont OK

Also I remember after the first time I took acid pot freaked me out for weeks so remember up on that too kids.
 
Roundabout said:
They say weed can summon "the demon" from inside you. It's that feeling where you suddenly realize you're stoned, and your mind begins thinking about a million different things, one after another, and you experience a kind of deja vu where you begin to fear your own thoughts, your heart races, and you no longer want to be stoned for fear of just losing it.

This all stems from CONTROL. Anxiety does as well. Those of us who have these issues have underlying control issues (fear of losing control). That's it in a nutshell, really.

Play out the scene in your head.. worst case is.. I go to the ER. Tell yourself your high will go away. And go slow, there's no need to rip bong hits 10 times in 10 minutes, know what level you're comfortable at and smoke just a hairline above it.

And for God's sake, have a woman beside you when you're smoking. Stoned sex will cure your anxiety nervosa for sure.
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I think you've nailed it. Social smoking is ok because I've got lots to distract me from my thoughts. The last few times I smoked here in Spain (more than a year ago mind you) I did with friends at a BBQ or whatever and it was fine.

Smoking by myself, left alone with my thoughts, especially sat in front of a computer, is bad news. Have to get up, walk away, and talk myself through it staring at the sea and relaxing.

It used to be great to smoke a joint and sit down for 5 hours of grinding away on a project. I wish I knew what the trigger was for what happened to me, because I used to really enjoy it. Where did I lose control?
 
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