I think either way.. the site will get analyzed to death. Just not questioned because he didnt make any outrageous claims. All he said was.. he took 10 min to set it up. and did nothing else with it.. and got some traffic.
The site Jon mentioned on WMR
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I didn't even make it.. my partner did. But used our custom script. Goodluck trying to figure things out though. As far as I know we are the only ones in the world with these custom additions.
You can't just give a shitty site, he should give a site like that is slow as, but with a crapload of pages, then just say it makes him $10k/month, off adsense and affiliates.juniodude said:
Shoemoney and him should partner up and release the shitties site ever, they would make a crapload off that, because everyone would want to visit it
Website Scraping - How much is legal?
Jon,
How much of the content on this site is simply pulled from the feeds? All of it?
If so, how can this be achieved legally? Surely you're not meant to simply copy content from other sites - even if you do provide a backlink.
Do some sites allow this? Can anyone do the same thing, or do you need permission first?
I would really appreciate and advice you can offer the users of this forum on this subject Jon,
Thanks, VC
Jon,
How much of the content on this site is simply pulled from the feeds? All of it?
If so, how can this be achieved legally? Surely you're not meant to simply copy content from other sites - even if you do provide a backlink.
Do some sites allow this? Can anyone do the same thing, or do you need permission first?
I would really appreciate and advice you can offer the users of this forum on this subject Jon,
Thanks, VC
In that case I'll go and completely copy all of Aojon.com into a blog of my own. In fact I might also add some stuff from Shoemoneys blog and Johnchows blog. I reckon I will be making a mint in no time...
Sorry, for a minute there I thought you were telling me I could use any content on the web on my own site as long as it's part of an RSS feed!
And I thought the point of RSS was so I could read all my favourite blogs in my RSS reader.
Sorry for the sarcasm, but surely you can't simply pull content from a feed and post it to your own site without permission. Can anyone else verify this?
Thanks guys, VC
PS. Ataraxy, thanks for the reply. I'm just playing!!!
Ataraxy, thanks again for replying. So what your telling me is that I can pull content from any website and post it on my own website. And this is completely legit as long as I link back to the original source?
If this is the case, how much content are you allowed to 'scrape'? Can you take full blog posts, as long as the backlin is there?
Thanks again, VC
Who cares if you can pull that shit? Your not gonna make money on duplicate content. Well you could, only if you don't show the scraped content word for word. Because of getting hit with supplemental in Google I've gone to other sources for content.
Figure it out.
Figure it out.
I thought Jon's site was taking content directly from the RSS feeds of other sites??? And he might not be making much money, but like he said on the show, all you need is a dollar a day profit from every site. If you have a million sites....
If you are taking content from an RSS feed, how can it not be word for word?
Also, I'm trying to "Figure it out" with a little bit of help from people in the know!
Thanks for your reply. Please follow up with something more solid, such as how to pull content from an RSS feed, but not word for word.
Thanks, VC
One content source I have is my repository of over 10k ebooks, all of them converted to html. I use a custom markov script to grab 2 paragraphs from each, jumbling them ( Do you now see what I mean not word for word?? ) and adding my own keywords to create completely unique content. I then have a custom script posting to over 500+ different domains at intervals all this fresh, unique content. Unique content is where the money is.
I don't give a shit if it's copyrighted, if you got a hold of one my of sites (you won't) you won't be even be able to tell what book I grabbed the certain page from, etc.
Why don't you try what Jon was trying? It's amazingly easy to pull content from an RSS feed to a wordpress blog. Simply use the FeedWordpress plugin. Grab a few RSS feeds and there you go. Oh wait, good luck in fiding RSS sources that give you full content and not 1 or 2 sentences.
Or maybe you can ask Jon? Since he has a "custom, only one in the world" script ;-)))))
I have a similar strategy, but I scrape sites related to the niche I'm working on which, for me, leads to better, keyword-targetted markov content. Also, all the markov stuff is cloaked (doorways).
Interestingly, I'm working on a Java script that conceals the markov content if someone attempt to view it via a SE's cache. I'm also using cloaked sitemaps which are producing great results in terms of pages indexed and more traffic.
My blogs' sidebar sitemaps display any 80 random links to the markov pages. But, the last thing I want is human visitors trying to click the links, so I cloak them. The results so far have been dramatic in terms of getting hundreds/thousands of pages indexed quickly and increased uniques.
I got the idea from Quad's blog (Click Distance Matters). I'd noticed many times that pages with direct sidebar links pickup more PR than those without sidebar links, so I tested it and was quite amazed by the results.
Are you using Adsense/YPN on the pages or redirecting to merchants?
Also, are you using XSS exploits with tinyurls? A novel twist on this which I'm currently testing involves using a fake blog front-end with some content, and back-end is a tinyurl script that's cloaked.
So, for example, I drop the following links on high PR blogs:
www.someblog.com/a
www.someblog.com/b
www.someblog.com/c
www.someblog.com/d
...
If a human visitor clicks the links they redirected to: www.someblog.com
However, if a spider follows the links they 301 redirected to the relevant XSS-exploited site - where each letter following the domain represents a XSS-exploited site. So you can create thousands from a single site, also, the links are re-usable because you can redirect to anywhere at anytime.
But I'm still testing the idea.
So, for example, I drop the following links on high PR blogs:
www.someblog.com/a
www.someblog.com/b
www.someblog.com/c
www.someblog.com/d
...
If a human visitor clicks the links they redirected to: www.someblog.com
However, if a spider follows the links they 301 redirected to the relevant XSS-exploited site - where each letter following the domain represents a XSS-exploited site. So you can create thousands from a single site, also, the links are re-usable because you can redirect to anywhere at anytime.
But I'm still testing the idea.
theres worse thing seos (bh) are doing than xss that they have not been caught for
Sitemaker, thanks for the reply. Yes, this is more "solid" info. LOL
The reason I am asking so many questions is because I am currently experimenting with auto updating sites with RSS and using screen scraping. I was just concerned about the legalities of this.
I can see your point with the unique content approach. Any chance you can share a couple of tips on this type of script - how could I find out more about content jumbling?
I don't expect you to post any secrets here, but a push in the right direction would be very helpful.
Thanks again Sitemaker, VC
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