There may be twice as many free floating planets as there are stars

seiux said:
yo, can someone explain to me what the deal is with the space program? i was under the impression we shut it down, but it looks like it was just privatized/the government is spending no money on it anymore?

anyone have any thoughts on this? think the privatization of space exploration (if thats what is going on) is a good thing?
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We must be honest, the pioneers age (moon exploration) is over. Space programs are too expansive and the outcome is not always worth the price (remember all the missions to mars until the date).
Today the space is mostly short range travels to set up satellites and the programs to study Sun activity (Soho and Stereo A/B).
 


Rusky said:
Waste of time and money my ass. I beat most of the worlds resources are below deck.
Going to the moon was like building pyramids for Egypt. Worthless, Symbolism of power.
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Has someone hacked your PC today, or are you just really, really High?

Nobody said ocean exploration was a waste of time and money... I said it was similar to Land exploration, but more dangerous & costly than space exploration to go to the deepest (most interesting) places down there.

Frankly I'm all for sea exploration but space has taught us so much more about our universe I'm starting to get the idea that you only don't like it simply because space is a logical alternative to the existence to Heaven.
 
Well then dont waste my money on that shit. I got kids to feed; I also like to drink good, eat good, and fuck my wife good. One day I'll die, and say I lived a good life.

Get all the sci fi people together and make them spend billions. Right now I need cheaper gas for my big as SUV to tow my boat. So I can watch the pretty little sparks in the sky when I'm camping by the lake.
 
Rusky said:
Well then dont waste my money on that shit... Get all the sci fi people together and make them spend billions.
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Agreed completely! (For the first time...)

No one, no government should force you to fund something that you don't care about. That's called Theft... But it's the status quo here in civilized society.

So voting Ron Paul is your best chance to not have to fund any such programs... He's anti-theft, pro liberty.

Now back to work, you drunken, god-loving Russian! ;)
 
oceans deserve to be explored more, there WILL be unimaginable stuff in there (think of evolution and where we came from).

and spacex ftw
 
lukep said:
Agreed completely! (For the first time...)

No one, no government should force you to fund something that you don't care about. That's called Theft... But it's the status quo here in civilized society.

So voting Ron Paul is your best chance to not have to fund any such programs... He's anti-theft, pro liberty.

Now back to work, you drunken, god-loving Russian! ;)
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wrong, people are to dumb to know what to spend money on, so your theory is flawed.

we wouldnt have the medical advances we have today for instance.

what you are saying makes sense to me, but it depends on independent intelligence which not many people have. what it comes down to is having a smart government spending money on what is most necessary. Imagine if 50% of DOD resources were spent on technological advance.
 
mattfca said:
wrong, people are to dumb to know what to spend money on, so your theory is flawed.

we wouldnt have the medical advances we have today for instance.

what you are saying makes sense to me, but it depends on independent intelligence which not many people have. what it comes down to is having a smart government spending money on what is most necessary. Imagine if 50% of DOD resources were spent on technological advance.
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Agree
Most materials used in the car industry today come from aerospace research
 
Ah Crap. What have I done?! Libertarian thread #3 coming up... ;)

mattfca said:
wrong, people are to dumb to know what to spend money on, so your theory is flawed.
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We agree that people are too stupid to know what's important to spend money on, but you're dead wrong in suggesting that it requires a thieving government (And what other kind of government is there?) to decide what to spend the populations' surplus money on.

Without an impoverished lower class there could be infinitely more wealth to put into things like the apollo program... But they'd be done Voluntarily, instead of by threat of imprisonment like they all have so far.

mattfca said:
we wouldnt have the medical advances we have today for instance.
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Wrong again. Instead of someone in DC deciding what to do with the money they've already stolen from you, why not go onto a website for a cause you care about, say, a website for finding the cure for cancer, and join in with all others who feel the same way... Imagine all the money it could raise when not being sent to the IRS... And now imagine that no big Pharma will exist anymore to STOP a cure from cancer from appearing because that's unprofitable for them.

Or do you believe that Big pharma should be credited with all of these breakthroughs you speak of in the medical field?

mattfca said:
...what it comes down to is having a smart government spending money on what is most necessary. Imagine if 50% of DOD resources were spent on technological advance.
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The DOD, including DARPA? I hope that wan't your best example... ;)

But how can you even think a "smart government" can spend money on what is "Most necessary?"

What is most necessary for one person is totally not important for another.

If everyone in my family had cancer, the most important thing to me, FAR more important than a space program, is a damn cure for cancer! -It'd be literally a Life-and-death matter for everyone I loved... Yet the government still is going to take cash out of my pockets and put in in NASA's.

Government: Does what OTHER people wants
Your whole family: Dies

Is this better spending? Seriously?

Taking our choice in what to spend all of our money on is always going to be the wrong decision.

Sure, a bunch of lowlifes may squander their cash on unimportant things that help no one but themselves, causing us to reach Mars a few years later than we would have via a government proclaimation, but everyone is happy in the meantime because they are truly free, and no one was thrown in prison when they couldn't pay their taxes!
 
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