War with Iran Begins March 20th



Having read Petrodollar Warfare I think lukep is right on point here. If and when Iran stops using the US dollar as a reserve currency for its oil, there will be increased gas prices, inflation will set in and the US will look to overthrown the Iranian govt most likely through a forced regime change using the auspice of "Nuclear Weapons" as we've heard time and time again.
 
How many people have tried this so far? Gaddafi had his gold dinar for oil plan. Didn't Saddam have a similar plan before that? Who else? Interesting to see them lined up in chrono order next to the US/NATO invasions.
 
Just out of curiosity, LukeP, you've got more than 4000 posts on this forum, have any of your paranoid predictions come true yet?

I miss Hellblazer. That guy was funny.
 
Just out of curiosity, LukeP, you've got more than 4000 posts on this forum, have any of your paranoid predictions come true yet?

I miss Hellblazer. That guy was funny.

one out of those 4000 posts has gotta be right some day. Hes covering all the bases so when one of those predictions just happens to come true he can say "HA HA I TOLD YOU SO, BETTER MOVE TO THAILAND BRO".
 
Putin? a'int? letting?

come on... Putin wishes for Iran & Syria to empty their bunkers and need more Russian missiles and weapons, its not like he really cares for these people, its just the money.

Putin has much work to do at home, many do not approve of how he "wins" elections, and a Muslim "minority" (tens of millions) is slowly moving to remove them old Christians out of power and money in that part of the world.

So what you're saying is he's "wining" elections to try and stop a muslim take over?
 
I wouldn't consider the petrodollar warfare hypothesis paranoid. It's based on history, and we all know what history likes to do..

I'm in the oil business, up in Canada. If the US dollar were to collapse, I would stand to make some fair bit of coin. But...

That's a good link dreamache, but it sorta proves my point. The petrodollar hypothesis/Arabs-gonna-fuck-US currency has been floating around for decades. Go google the "Rollover" the movie starrring Kris Kristofferson (actually here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(film))

Decades. And it hasn't happened yet. So shoot me a PM when it happens. If I'm not dead of old age by then.

Pardon my cynicism but LukeP is just recycling old conspiracy shit that been around for decades. I'm falling asleep here.

Now Hellblazer, that guy was a master. The Chinese are invading Los Angeles? Classic thread. Obama's church is a bastion for gays in the closet. Brilliant delusional paranoia. He should be in Hollywood writing scripts
 
I'm in the oil business, up in Canada. If the US dollar were to collapse, I would stand to make some fair bit of coin. But...

That's a good link dreamache, but it sorta proves my point. The petrodollar hypothesis/Arabs-gonna-fuck-US currency has been floating around for decades. Go google the "Rollover" the movie starrring Kris Kristofferson (actually here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(film))

Decades. And it hasn't happened yet. So shoot me a PM when it happens. If I'm not dead of old age by then.

Pardon my cynicism but LukeP is just recycling old conspiracy shit that been around for decades. I'm falling asleep here.

Now Hellblazer, that guy was a master. The Chinese are invading Los Angeles? Classic thread. Obama's church is a bastion for gays in the closet. Brilliant delusional paranoia. He should be in Hollywood writing scripts

Well, I mean... they haven't stopped trading in the dollar. I don't think anyone has any doubts that it would really hurt the dollar if some of these oil producing countries started trading in another currency. That's more fact than conspiracy. Fortunately for us there aren't a lot of good options out there for them right now.

There's no doubt that these countries like to at least threaten us with the prospect of switching currencies, and I (personally) don't have much doubt that our foreign policy has been effected. The Iraq invasion was probably at least largely tied to re-instating oil trading in the dollar after they switched to Euros. It only took us 3 years to go fix that little problem, and they produce like 2.5% of the worlds oil or something. It would be interesting to see how we reacted to a larger country making the switch.

Ultimately I don't think any country would be dumb enough to move away from the dollar unless we were having extreme economic issues over here to begin with. I think them switching would be part of the fallout from some sort of economic collapse, not the cause of it.
 
All due respect Luke, I am about 100 mi south of Russian border and watch Russian news all the time.

Putin ain't letting the US fuck up Syria OR Iran.

He is all on the TV talking about ramping up missile defenses against the USA and Syria a daily (scratch that, minute-by-minute) conversation on the news. Oh Russia DID ramp up defenses too BTW they got right on that shit.
Sabre-Rattling like that never died out after the cold war. Putin has to keep his appearances up, this much is obvious.

Meanwhile, all it would take is Obomba not sending US troops to enforce a no-fly-zone, but sending NATO troops to enforce a no-fly-zone to circumvent your whole argument. Kinda like Libya again but different allocations.

What's Putin going to do then? Attack all NATO countries?

So would be any kind of attack on Iran, they would kick our asses.
Who? The US? I dunno about that... Our military is a little infamous for being large, and we do have them surrounded with 40 regional bases we've built up in the region since the 1950's.

It would likely involve a Draft though. I certainly wouldn't want it to go any further but this Petrodollar shit is making me lose all hope.

I see the trend of Israel wanting to "go it alone" and attack Iran, I hope to hell they do so Iran can take all their pieces off the Risk gameboard.
You don't seem to understand the will of the american people though. The majority of our Voters are all baby boomers who believe that Israel is where their savior was born. Their pastors, priests and of course Rabbis all tell them that it is IMPERATIVE that we defend the holy land from the rest of their own region.... Obomba, of course, uses this public perception to his advantage and doesn't have much opposition outside of his own party (just us Ron Paul supporters) on attacking Iran then.

Once again, it's religion that's doing the most damage here. Without all of those churches/synagogs brainwashing americans into protecting Israel there'd be no reason for this war that the public could see at all.


Whatever currency to take the place of the dollar as the settlement currency for oil would instantly become much stronger.
Yep, at least somewhat stronger... The article in the OP talks about using Rupees, as India buys the largest % of Iran's oil... But they haven't officially announced if it will be the Rupee or Gold yet, or a combination of both.

This could be seriously bad for the USD as the oil factor was one of the last two only factors preventing total collapse. The other being the US army beating everyone down who disagrees.
Oh that would be bad too... But if the Ron Paul rEVOLution becomes the center of the POTUS's opposition (who else if not Paul?) then the military has already shown that they would stand with Paul. So at least we know the latter factor isn't likely to happen for very long before we have an actual Coup and throw Obomba out on his ass.

This guy is the poster-boy for public education.
Who dat?


That's a good link dreamache, but it sorta proves my point. The petrodollar hypothesis/Arabs-gonna-fuck-US currency has been floating around for decades. Go google the "Rollover" the movie starrring Kris Kristofferson

Decades. And it hasn't happened yet. So shoot me a PM when it happens. If I'm not dead of old age by then.
WTF are you calling "it happening?" The US or at least NATO always intervenes and stops the really stinky shit from hitting the fan... But bad stuff like War "Happens" that way every time.

Did it happen in Iraq? Did it happen in Libya? Did it happen to Dominique Strauss-Kahn? (The fake sex scandal, not a war of course) Well if so it sure as hell "is happening" in Iran soon, bank on it.


"Iran nuclear facilities soon to be immune to strike."

Israel: Iran nuke site soon immune to strike - CBS News
Classic. Next they'll be asking for our Bunker Busters, drawing the US more into it than ever.
 
Sabre-Rattling like that never died out after the cold war. Putin has to keep his appearances up, this much is obvious.


WTF are you calling "it happening?" The US or at least NATO always intervenes and stops the really stinky shit from hitting the fan... But bad stuff like War "Happens" that way every time.

Did it happen in Iraq? Did it happen in Libya? Did it happen to Dominique Strauss-Kahn? (The fake sex scandal, not a war of course) Well if so it sure as hell "is happening" in Iran soon, bank on it.



Classic. Next they'll be asking for our Bunker Busters, drawing the US more into it than ever.

Oh how I beg to differ. The "US or at least NATO" does NOT always intervene in time to stop the stinky shit.

Ask the Tutsis if the US intervened in Rwanda "in time."

How about the little matter of Serbia genocide in Croatia during the 1990s. Let us try to remember what happened there, oh yes NATO intervened to stop the killing of Muslims by Serbians. But too late for many.

Let's go back a little farther. How about the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in 1970s. Oh yes, no US intervention there.

And hey, how about that war that my grandfather fought in? The one where he was a POW for four shitty years in a camp in Eastern Germany. Why don't you ask a Jew with any sense of history whether the US intervened before the "stinky shit" happened.

There are too many threads on the internet started by ignorant people who never bothered to pick up a history book, but nonetheless seem to have an inexhaustible supply of rancid gibberish.

Too many to answer them all. But you caught me on a good day.
 
Oh how I beg to differ. The "US or at least NATO" does NOT always intervene in time to stop the stinky shit.

Ask the Tutsis if the US intervened in Rwanda "in time."

How about the little matter of Serbia genocide in Croatia during the 1990s. Let us try to remember what happened there, oh yes NATO intervened to stop the killing of Muslims by Serbians. But too late for many.

Let's go back a little farther. How about the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in 1970s. Oh yes, no US intervention there.

And hey, how about that war that my grandfather fought in? The one where he was a POW for four shitty years in a camp in Eastern Germany. Why don't you ask a Jew with any sense of history whether the US intervened before the "stinky shit" happened.

There are too many threads on the internet started by ignorant people who never bothered to pick up a history book, but nonetheless seem to have an inexhaustible supply of rancid gibberish.

Too many to answer them all. But you caught me on a good day.

LOL WAT the first 3 you mentioned are countries THAT DONT HAVE ANY OIL. Nobody did shit at first because it didn't affect our economic interests.