Was Osama actually captured alive?

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Obama wasnt in power when Saddam's sons were killed. Thus the correlation is mute.


That doesn't matter. It's still the same United States to everyone else.

And besides - it seemed to have worked great. Not a single conspiracy theory floating around about it.

Believe me, with-holding information is just inviting more conspiracies (which I think is the whole point anyway).
 


Saw this posted in another thread, I've been sending it to any conspiracy loon friends that post stupid anti-american statuses.

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They're prob having the same conversation in China right now...


No wait a minute..................
 
Could the fallout between the ISI and CIA have anything to do with this?

Federal officials acknowledged Saturday that David Coleman Headley, the U.S. businessman who confessed to being a terrorist scout in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, was working as a Drug Enforcement Administration informant while training with terrorists in Pakistan.
 
Saw this posted in another thread, I've been sending it to any conspiracy loon friends that post stupid anti-american statuses.


When has wanting more info become "anti-american" lol - That's rich!

Anyway, I have no theory yet for a conspiracy to be based on. I'm just looking for the truth. And believable truth in a situation like this can only be attained by an unbiased witness - and the most unbiased witness in this case happens to be the cameras in the room.

Because right now there are 3 or 4 (at least) completely different stories of how the whole thing went down.

And would have been fine with that, until they announced that they dumped the body into the ocean. You can't dump a body into the ocean and then be scrambling to get the story right, and not expect people to wonder what went on in there. And releasing video and pictures would clear up any speculations of shenanigans. Unless of course....
 

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I try to be on the fence with most topics until I get solid evidence leaning either way, I think it is just as crazy not to believe in some 'conspiracies' as it is to believe.
 
I try to be on the fence with most topics until I get solid evidence leaning either way, I think it is just as crazy not to believe in some 'conspiracies' as it is to believe.

This. You know why no conspiracy theories are true? Because once they are proved true they stop being theories... Watergate, etc.

But I'm not commenting on this specific issue when I say that.

I find it hard to believe, though, that a thin unarmed and old man couldn't be restrained without being killed - I have just accepted that the US probably killed him because that's what they decided was, for whatever reasons, the best course of action.
 
I find it hard to believe, though, that a thin unarmed and old man couldn't be restrained without being killed - I have just accepted that the US probably killed him because that's what they decided was, for whatever reasons, the best course of action.


I have a feeling a discussion occurred long ago involving these questions. Sometime during that discussion, someone (Gates? Clinton? Biden?) said, "Screw that. Kill order."
 
This. You know why no conspiracy theories are true? Because once they are proved true they stop being theories... Watergate, etc.

But I'm not commenting on this specific issue when I say that.

I find it hard to believe, though, that a thin unarmed and old man couldn't be restrained without being killed - I have just accepted that the US probably killed him because that's what they decided was, for whatever reasons, the best course of action.

He was better dead than alive and in custody where Muslims around the world would protest and kill Americans until he was released.

I'm willing to bet that the CIA director didn't even want Obama to release the fact that we killed the son of a bitch.

If I was CIA director I would rather keep ALL clandestine operations secret - no matter the size and ramifications of an operation's success.''

As for these conspiracy theorists: I agree w/ Supernova's image.
 
As Jon Stewart stated,

No amount of evidence will ever be enough for conspiracy theorists, so why are we even bothering continuing to try?

We have videos, pictures, proof, oodles of evidence about landing on the moon...yet that still hasnt been remotely close to enough.

It's a lost cause. Those that want to believe, will. Those that don't, won't.

80 percent of Americans believed in a cover-up surrounding JFK, back around the time Oliver Stone's movie came out. 6 percent of Americans doubt the moon landing. These numbers show how silly it can be to use a broad brush to lump skeptical people into one group.

An act of congress in the 1990s made it so 90-something percent of the documents related to JFK's assassination could be released. The general public reaction was "good, we want the info", not "how dare they waste time on these conspiracy people."

Imagine a historian that is not at all concerned with conspiracy theories. Should it have to take an act of congress 30 years from now for them to find out the who, where and when of Osama's DNA tests, for example?
 
Saw this posted in another thread, I've been sending it to any conspiracy loon friends that post stupid anti-american statuses.
I stopped taking you seriously the moment you said "anti-american".

But, in response to that cartoon:

Majority of people who believe in at least one "cospiracy theory" (that's an accurate description of what it is, but the name's been used so much in such a defamatory way, I dislike using the term) only believe in one or two, and are open to intelligent debate about it, can accept the fact that there's the possibility of it having happened, but also the possibility of it having not happened. Contrary to popular belief, not all people who believe in some conspiracy theories also believe that the moon landing was faked.

On the other hand, people who refer to anyone who thinks a particular conspiracy theory is true as a "conspiracy loon" is the true loon.

It represents not being able to judge things from afar, and refusing to believe any conspiracy theory, on the grounds of insecurity, thinking people might class them the same way they class others. So instead, they play it safe, follow whatever they are told (unless others start calling the things telling them this loony - in which case they rapidly switch. [Fox news?])

Anything that falls into sounding like a conspiracy theory to them, will, in order to sound normal, and because it's easiest, will instantly be denounced as anti-american, and loony.
 
It's not a conspiracy theory to consider the current, former, and the few dozen before that full of total shit.

Ask yourself one question before you try to degrade anyone questioning things:

Do you TRUST EVERYTHING that the government tells you?

If the answer is no - then be quiet and allow those who are standing up (even if it's only words) and helping to defend your freedoms. It doesn't matter if you think every person questioning it is bat shit crazy - it's not like the media is going to do their jobs anymore. It's up to the crazies to do it for them.

We think you are just as nuts for believing what ever you are told.
 

Just because you believe that the government does and will mislead the public doesn't mean that you're a deranged conspiracy theorist.

The OP's story almost certainly didn't happen, and Osama was probably killed pretty recently, but that doesn't mean that you can take those facts for granted simply because the government says so.