WF Winter 2007 Case Study

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chucktown said:
**edit** I just reread your post and saw that you know how to install wordpress. Just go with that on your own domain. I never trust free hosting or free blog networks for anything that I want to put money in my pocket.
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Thanks Chuck. I guess I'm a bit confused about why the blogger account is needed if I am hosting the site myself on my own domain. I was hopping to get some clarification like it's going to be used for something else like promoting your blog, etc.....
 


Sayeed said:
Um..isn't that called building a website? Except you kinda overcomplicated it.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Over complicating things????


<edit> BTW I hope this thread takes off, I might just get involved with this thread, just for the hell of it...</edit>
 
Looks interesting to test out.

Should we look at loading the domain with keywords to help it rank better?

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IMO, here're the pros and cons of the various blogging platforms:

Blogger.com/Blogspot.com
1) free
2) supposedly indexed by google easily
3) didnt support categories the last time i checked.
4) doesnt permit custom permalink structures
5) can mod the templates to some extent
6) domain is owned by google, who can shut you down for violation of ToS, especially if you wander into pills, porn and poker, or spam
7) processing and updating crawls during peak hours.
8) *** Can be hosted on your own domain, which mitigates (7) somewhat.
9) if you're using a (blogname).blogspot.com blog, you'll have a hard time transferring/selling the domain if you ever want to.

Wordpress.com
kinda the same as blogger, cept google doesnt index you as readily,
similar to hosted wordpress, except has a number of limitations from what I've heard (don't use wordpress.com myself)
[can't sell the domain either]

Hosted WordPress
1) comes standard with most hosting accounts out there.
2) installs on your own domain with a single click from cpanel.
3) setup takes about 30 seconds.
4) flexible SEO-friendly permalink structure
5) widgets and plugins give you lots of flexibility for traffic gen/seo/metrics
6) greater visibility with user-customized XML-RPC list.
7) since it's hosted on your domain, you can sell it, monetize it easily.
8) cons: not as idiot-friendly as blogger/wordpress.com, but can be more powerful in terms of functions and traffic reach.

Jon said:
I want to show some of you how easy it is to make money online, especially by season. So let's do a bit of a group project and keep the information up to date, day by day here so others can also learn and benefit.

If you're up for the challenge, I will give everyone up to a week to decide or get ready for this project and then we will begin, step by step, day by day, for approx 1 month to get you on your way to making money online. These are conservative goals and don't be ashamed if you can't meet them, all it takes it drive/effort and time really.
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Reading over the previous responses, here's what it seems to be saying:
1) You need your own domain name
2) You need your own hosting account

A) You will use either a Blogger account where you'll host your blogger blog on your domain and hosting account

OR

B) You will use a hosted wordpress install. (comes standard with your hosting account)

Note: Using a wordpress.com account is not an option.
 
Very good points Andrew.

Blogspot sites seem to get a little favored treatment by Google from what I have seen, but running Wordpress on your own hosting account gives you limitless options for design, seo, etc. Plugins for WP are a very big plus.
 
Brandon said:
Very good points Andrew.

Blogspot sites seem to get a little favored treatment by Google from what I have seen, but running Wordpress on your own hosting account gives you limitless options for design, seo, etc. Plugins for WP are a very big plus.
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ditto that ...... i really dont think id be making half as much as I do now without wordpress. just the SEO factor alone makes it a winner, then the ease of creating custom templates and the shit ton of plugins.....
 
Sayeed said:
I know how to build a site already. But why spend 150 a month though? I spend only 8 a month for hosting and my site gets traffic (although not much).
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the reason must be, that the owner of those sites is a dumbfuck who can't even type his site's url in his signature properly.

if you know all about building websites already, then why the hell don't YOU post something clever and tell US how to make money with it?

ungrateful fuck.
 
I started building a site this week. I am trying out a new niche and it is the first site I am working on to begin breaking into it. Would it be alright if used it in this thread? The niche I am working on is completely new to me also this is the first site i will be building that could be considered a full content based affiliate site, all links out go to something that could possibly convert and instead of selling like Ive been doing with landing pages, Im trying to pre-sell, I have been doing shit loads of reading and research to put out decent content and to come across like I know what the fuck im talking about.

Fuck it ill throw it out there to kick shit off, if it doesnt qualify just delete this post Jon.

Here it is;

Mortgage Refinancing Reviewed
 
Here's a suggestion.

Go reg a domain name, anything will do fine.
If it's related to your niche (eg mortgages) it'll be easier, but it's not mandatory.

The words 'yahoo' and 'google' and 'dell' dont mean anything in the english dictionary, but there've been brands built around those words.

The cost of failure in internet marketing is $8 (for your domain?) and it just costs another $8 to try again.

Coming into internet marketing, you'd ideally want $1,000 - $2,000 to try stuff out, expect to fail at least some of the time and figure out what works.

So part of this thread is also inculcating the mindset that 90% of the stuff you try out as a newbie might crash and burn. But the 10% that succeeds could give you a 900% ROI.

So if you are serious about testing this stuff out, with free instructional guidance from the admins and mods here, then i think you need to scrap a budget together to at least give it a go.

IMO I get a lot of enquiries from people who want to make a million bucks, but they aren't even willing to spend $8 on a domain name. There's a bloody big disconnect there if you ask me.

Anyway, the bottomline is that part of this exercise is being in the right frame of mind starting out. You're learning a system, and there were requirements posted in the first post.

It's as much about (and probably more importantly about) the learning than just the money itself.

If you get that one lesson, you're better than 99% of the people out there already.
 
jerxs said:
I started building a site this week. I am trying out a new niche and it is the first site I am working on to begin breaking into it. Would it be alright if used it in this thread? The niche I am working on is completely new to me also this is the first site i will be building that could be considered a full content based affiliate site, all links out go to something that could possibly convert and instead of selling like Ive been doing with landing pages, Im trying to pre-sell, I have been doing shit loads of reading and research to put out decent content and to come across like I know what the fuck im talking about.

Fuck it ill throw it out there to kick shit off, if it doesnt qualify just delete this post Jon.

Here it is;

Mortgage Refinancing Reviewed
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i will take the whole challenge to push the blog in my sig. this is a fun project for me, not a money maker, because i will get more motivated by doing things from a fun perspective.

i will never become a great writer, especially as english is not my first language, so i am concentrating on the affiliate business to make money.

but a couple more visitors on my blog, a few more players and some more content would be cool :) this funproject is already costing me $200-$300 in prizes per month so a few extra dollars don't matter. it would even be cool, if i could get that site to carry itself by making some income.
 
a.titus1 said:
Any chance of putting this in a custom section? If multiple people are doing this and reporting every day, its gonna get really confusing really fast trying to follow, especially with random comments interjected. Wondering if there's any way to keep things a bit cleaner for better readability for someone reading through for the first time.
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We could have some sort of thread like "follow my Winter 2007..... progress links", each member could post a short discription of their project with a link to their own personal blogs that have a catagory "follow my Winter 2007....progress" and post regularly there. For those who want to, they could post a link to their project also on that thread.

Another option, each person start their own thread for their own project, like "Jan's winter 2007.......project/progress"

Members could show maturity and keep random comments off these educational threads and start new threads for the fun and entertaining stuff we all love about WF.
 
No matter what it is we are doing some fucking people just can't follow along.

Anyhow, I'm game and I have my topic and domain ready for action.
 
If anyone needs some help with custom templates drop me a line, I have a few modified templates with good adsense adplacment on most topics.
 
Alright, yes, I am a total noob...

So I downloaded wordpress and did a test install on a domain of mine. However, when you type the domain into the browser it takes you to a parking site... how can people actually view my blog?

I can access the admin and everything fine, but I jsut can't view it (when I click 'view site' it does the same thing...)
 
Make sure you remove the default parking page index.html

Wordpress will have installed index.php which is the page you want to keep!
 
So another question... how are we going to make money with this blog? I don't see how I can incorporate AdSense ads or anything? Sorry for the lame questions, but this is my first time with any type of blog...
 
i tried this for 6 months on my personal blog, new post almost every day. still don't make anything, so gave that up. adsense sucks. made 10 new splogs (5 posts each for a week, nothing more, not updated since)in 5 minutes and made $30 a month from adbrite for the last 8 months. then i added an adult affiliate and made another $6500 on top of that. w0rd. how can i make more moola please?
 
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