What do you think of Cryonics?

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This topic would not go well in a religious (or even semi-religious) forum, but since WF is exactly the opposite of that, I thought it'd be interesting to discuss... so... what do you think of the idea of freezing off a loved one (or yourself) for $200k, for revival when technology is advanced enough to cure the condition/disease?

Currently, it seems the "freezing off" process is not the issue, it's the unfreezing... Apparently the "warming speed" needs to be very delicately controlled to ensure no cell shatters... which apparently no company has been able to successfully achieve... yet, but specialists think it's only a matter of time. Many believe by 1945 we'll be able to master this thawing process...

inb4 where's the affiliate program

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By 1945? But yeah, I'd love to freeze myself until interstellar space travel is perfected.
 
Fuck, what an awesome business idea. These guys are simply renting freezer space at an insanely high price.
 
Not to mention you can dump the body when the last remaining relative dies and sell it to the next fool.

Not sure about that. There will always be extended family members, descendants and friends ready to sue your ass for millions if you do that.
 
Better idea with less overhead. Start a company that sells contracts for 1,000,000 bitcoins.

Once technology has advanced far enough to have established quantum-travel, the company promises to send a representative through a time-portal with a cure for the disease, so that the customer never needs to be frozen in the first place. Only one disease per contract though. If you get 2 separate kinds of cancer you need to buy 2 contracts.

When the customer sues for fraud, provide evidence that the cure was provided to the parallel equivalent of the customer in another dimension, hereafter referred to as CUSTOMER. Unfortunately, because CUSTOMER is not a citizen of our universe, the laws of our society do not apply to him, so we cannot pursue trans-dimensional legal action against him.
 
Not sure about that. There will always be extended family members, descendants and friends ready to sue your ass for millions if you do that.

You going to remember or even care that your great great grandfather froze his body in a cryonics lab? Is the contract going to become a family heirloom thats passed down from generation to generation? Can you visit the body at the cryonics lab or do they just say "Yep, grandpa is in tube #843 in building 6?" Is anyone going to really give 2 fucks after your kids die? Shit, grand kids barely visit their parents when they're alive.
 
You going to remember or even care that your great great grandfather froze his body in a cryonics lab? Is the contract going to become a family heirloom thats passed down from generation to generation? Can you visit the body at the cryonics lab or do they just say "Yep, grandpa is in tube #843 in building 6?" Is anyone going to really give 2 fucks after your kids die? Shit, grand kids barely visit their parents when they're alive.

so theres this scandal a century from now. cryo Corp throws away 150 year old bodies. Most of their great Grand children certainly don't care.

Guess who cares? lawyers.

Lawyers dig up the list, find the living relatives, agree to take it to court in exchange for percentages. lawsuit.
 
so theres this scandal a century from now. cryo Corp throws away 150 year old bodies. Most of their great Grand children certainly don't care.

Guess who cares? lawyers.

Lawyers dig up the list, find the living relatives, agree to take it to court in exchange for percentages. lawsuit.

Don't bring common sense into the equation, that's just ignorant.
 
so theres this scandal a century from now. cryo Corp throws away 150 year old bodies. Most of their great Grand children certainly don't care.

Guess who cares? lawyers.

Lawyers dig up the list, find the living relatives, agree to take it to court in exchange for percentages. lawsuit.

That's assuming there's some scandal. What if the company goes bankrupt? What if "the laywers" never find out? You assume people in 150 years are going to give a flying fuck about a guy who's been technically dead for 150 years. Does the company even have data storage procedures to keep the contracts for 150 years? How will "the lawyers" even know what was agreed upon 150 years ago? I'm also sure this company has about 1000 outs in their contract as well that give them 1000 reasons to dump your body after no one gives a shit about your carcass anymore.

All I'm saying is unless they start curing some of these peoples diseases within the next generation or two, no one will give a fuck if they dump your icy cold body into a furnace.
 
No they don't have data. They store bodies for cryonic hibernation but they've never heard about the arcane concept bookkeeping.
 
Cryonics is the only hope that most of us have at life extension.. even if that chance is extremely low (0.00001% or whatever). Lot's of things have to go right. But still, better chances than hoping a magical fairy man in outer space cares about you and is going to bring you up to his magical fairy kingdom where you shall live happily ever after for eternity.

I'm for cryonics, but also think the chances are so low that everything goes right that I'm not counting on it.. and probably won't even bother with it.

And don't count on the singularity any time soon - if ever. Futurists are always wrong with dates and, in reality, past progress trends are not a great indicator of future progress trends. Never underestimate how quickly we can go Dark Age again. Most futurists are so optimistic it's sickening.
 
I don't think I'd want to do that, even if I could. Just think, going to sleep in 1920, then waking up in 2014. Do you have any idea how much of a living nightmare that would be? It looks pretty cool in the movies and stuff, but I bet the reality isn't that great.
 
I'm actually frozen and in one of these chambers as we speak. Part of an advanced new program where your brain remains active and can communicate via computer. I'll probably just stay on wickedfire until they unfreeze me.
 
I don't think I'd want to do that, even if I could. Just think, going to sleep in 1920, then waking up in 2014. Do you have any idea how much of a living nightmare that would be? It looks pretty cool in the movies and stuff, but I bet the reality isn't that great.

I was actually thinking about that. The thing is, it would be a nightmare for a few years to adapt and shit, probably have to go back to school, re-learn the new way of life and all kinds of new concepts, but if they were able to successfully revive you, that probably means medical technology is advanced enough to live for centuries, or even forever, so who cares if you have to spend 5, 10 or even 50 years learning stuff ;)