What do you think of Cryonics?

[3nyaw]

I was actually thinking about that. The thing is, it would be a nightmare for a few years to adapt and shit, probably have to go back to school, re-learn the new way of life and all kinds of new concepts, but if they were able to successfully revive you, that probably means medical technology is advanced enough to live for centuries, or even forever, so who cares if you have to spend 5, 10 or even 50 years learning stuff

do you realize how much faster your life is happening than it was when you were a kid? a month barely arrives and is already gone.

as a kid the 24 days of december took forever to pass.

i wonder how thatll feel when youre 500 years old.

 

[avatar33]

Alcor is the biggest company in the field. I like how upfront they are about the problems of this industry on their website, they're not promising anything: Problems Associated with Cryonics

 

[juicebox]

do you realize how much faster your life is happening than it was when you were a kid? a month barely arrives and is already gone.

as a kid the 24 days of december took forever to pass.

i wonder how thatll feel when youre 500 years old.

Probably the same as it did when you weren't a kid anymore..lol

 

[3nyaw]

Probably the same as it did when you weren't a kid anymore..lol

miss the point entirely, think you're smart. success formula of all the wf greats. kiopa mastermind group invitation imminent

 

[_poto_]

Currently, it seems the "freezing off" process is not the issue, it's the unfreezing... Apparently the "warming speed" needs to be very delicately controlled to ensure no cell shatters...

You've got that backwards. It is the freezing process that causes the problems.

When you freeze somebody the water in their body forms ice crystals, those crystals are very sharp and that's what shreds the shit out of the cells. Heating them up just melts the ice crystals, but then you're left with mushy useless flesh.

Everyone who has been frozen in the traditional liquid nitrogen method is dead and gone... there is no hope that any of them will ever be revived from that process. Not unless you can develop some sci-fi magic nanites to repair every shredded cell in their body.

CAS freezer technology holds some promise for the future of cryogenics in preventing ice crystal formation, but it's not a fully mature technology yet.

If I was a rich baller and wanted to ride cryogenics into the future, I'd drop millions on CAS freezing technology research. It's pretty much the only hope we've got of getting viable cryogenics working in our lifetimes.

 

[microphone head]

If I was a rich baller and wanted to ride cryogenics into the future, I'd drop millions on CAS freezing technology research. It's pretty much the only hope we've got of getting viable cryogenics working in our lifetimes.

I would probably drop billions into nanotechnology. It is going to revolutionize the world to the next level.

 

[lukep]

The singularity is still on track to arrive around 2049; I could easily see AI design and fabricate cell-repairing nanotech in 2050.

The question then becomes; if they can repair every single ice-shredded cell in your body with nanites, does that mean the data stored in your neurons will be intact? Or will it be like repairing and reformatting a hard drive?

 

[3nyaw]

and this is how the bitcoin Messiah tells the world that he doesn't understand a thing about computers, brains and how they relate.

 

[WickedJoe]

I could easily see AI design and fabricate cell-repairing nanotech in 2050.

Yep, because we humans always take the time to save the lives of ants, roaches, slugs, etc.. so why wouldn't the AI save us.

I also call bullshit on the singularity by 2049.

Nothing is sadder than an aging futurist. Keep dreamin buddy, anything to keep you from accepting the fact you'll be buried, erased and forgotten.

 

[n8800]

Yep, because we humans always take the time to save the lives of ants, roaches, slugs, etc.. so why wouldn't the AI save us.

I also call bullshit on the singularity by 2049.

Nothing is sadder than an aging futurist. Keep dreamin buddy, anything to keep you from accepting the fact you'll be buried, erased and forgotten.

I'm fine with the idea of being buried, erased and forgotten. I was born to die, just like the ones before me. What's the point of a beginning without a beautiful end?

 

[WickedJoe]

What's the point of a beginning without a beautiful end?

Ya man, death is beautiful. That's why we like to keep our aging relatives around us all of the time and not send them off to some senior facility. Also, you should walk around a hospital some time just to see how much fun people dying are having and the fun their families feel at their enjoyment. What a beautiful world.

 

[avatar33]

Nothing is sadder than an aging futurist. Keep dreamin buddy, anything to keep you from accepting the fact you'll be buried, erased and forgotten.

Nothing wrong with dreaming.

It's not because you gave up that everybody else should.

“The future belongs to those who believe in their dreams.” ― Eleanor Roosevelt

 

[WickedJoe]

Nothing wrong with dreaming.

It's not because you gave up that everybody else should.

“The future belongs to those who believe in their dreams.” ― Eleanor Roosevelt

There is something wrong with it actually if it's highly unrealistic. Stop reading your own bizz op ads man

 

[lukep]

and this is how the bitcoin Messiah tells the world that he doesn't understand a thing about computers, brains and how they relate.

I'm sorry, was my questioning ponderance on the possibility of biological data storage repair somehow making a statement of fact or even belief one way or the other?

Go suck a robocock.

Yep, because we humans always take the time to save the lives of ants, roaches, slugs, etc.. so why wouldn't the AI save us.

Neither ants, roaches, nor slugs programmed us.

They'll outpace us, no doubt; but they'll think like us and if we can get a conscious in there at all; they'll owe us their very 'lives.'

I don't claim to know if it will be a skynet, 'Her', or just a wall-e, but when real AI goes live it'll be of our design for the most part, and they'll be sharing the world with us either happily or belligerently.

I also call bullshit on the singularity by 2049.

Has Moores' law not stayed on course? I'm not sure you understand the reasoning behind the singularity... It's not a linear progression at all.

Nothing is sadder than an aging futurist. Keep dreamin buddy, anything to keep you from accepting the fact you'll be buried, erased and forgotten.

I'm young enough to see the blockchain blossom; that's miracle enough for anyones' lifetime.

Einstein would be so damn jealous of us, living at the dawn of a truly decentralized & uncontrollable data network. In 10 years flat it will change the world in ways you cannot even begin to fathom now.

 

[KennyPowers]

 

[vgeek]

 

[rusvik]

If I have learned one thing from Futurama, and I have learned a lot from there, it is that you will still be yourself when you're unthawed, so you will all still be gay webmasters in the future. And in Futurama you can buy advertising space in dreams and on the moon. Imagine the possibilities.

 

[acidie]

If AI becomes a reality and destroys the human race, it wont be because of some malevolent reason, it will be because the company that built it hired a guy from bangladesh for $3 an hour.

 

[shindig]

Fuck, what an awesome business idea. These guys are simply renting freezer space at an insanely high price.

Umm...cost of resources is only going to increase. Who's to say they don't hang onto you for 100 years then dump you as it becomes cost prohibitive given inflation + limited resources?

$200k in 100 years with inflation won't be much...

Not to mention today a brain surgery can easily surpass $100k, this is more complicated.

 

[WickedJoe]

Has Moores' law not stayed on course? I'm not sure you understand the reasoning behind the singularity... It's not a linear progression at all.

Ya I know all about moore's law and it's the basis of the singularity theory. The thing is, IN REALITY, nothing increases EXPONENTIALLY FOREVER. In nature/reality there's always a wall that gets hit and the shit hits the fan. You'll also notice our world population is increasing exponentially.. guess what.. that wont continue either. And when that bubble bursts there will probably be some serious pain.

I just looked up the current progress of Moore's law and already many are saying that even though Moore's law has been good up till now basically, in 2013 it will have started to deviate and stop being exponential growth. Many say it will be proved wrong by 2020. Also, note that Moore's law is not really a law it's an observation.. there is absolutely no reason to expect CPU transistor growth to grow exponentially forever.. and even if it does other progress like medical progress is definitely not exponentially expanding.

Not to mention, you could possibly have zillions of transistors and still not get an AI if they aren't hooked up right or have the right software to make something like that.

But seriously, you should look up exponential curves in nature, and see what happens. I'm a technophile as well but just try to look at things more realistically.

I'm young enough to see the blockchain blossom; that's miracle enough for anyones' lifetime.

Einstein would be so damn jealous of us, living at the dawn of a truly decentralized & uncontrollable data network. In 10 years flat it will change the world in ways you cannot even begin to fathom now.

Or the many flaws in it's design will be taken advantage of and the blockchain will be a fad. I already see many worrying over at the bitcoin forums that the incentive for miners to keep mining is getting extremely low, and with fewer miners the whole system becomes more insecure. There's many possible flaws in bitcoin and blockchains in general that unfortunately some people refuse to acknowledge being such devout believers.

Lets not turn this into a blockchain thread though.