When will we outlaw this fucking retarded, pedophile religion?

And make no mistake, that's ALL white people running around like fucking lunatics. Let's not include the black, chinese and latin american idiots as well.
 


pewep said:
And make no mistake, that's ALL white people running around like fucking lunatics. Let's not include the black, chinese and latin american idiots as well.
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how about the other asian subcultures that make up about 40% of the world?
 
pewep said:
HITLER TOTAL:
  • Courtois: 25,000,000
  • Rummel: 20,946,000 democides
  • Heidenrich, How to Prevent Genocide: 17,000,000 (p.6)
  • Brzezinski: 17,000,000
  • Urlanis: 15-16,000,000 (11-12M civilians + 3.9M POWs)
  • MEDIAN: ca. 15.5M
  • Our Times: 13,000,000 (6M Jews + 7M others)
  • Compton's: 12,000,000
  • Grenville: 10,000,000, including 2M children.
  • NOTE: These numbers only include outright murders, but keep in mind that some 28M civilians and 14M soldiers died in the European War. That's 42,000,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on Hitler to one extent or another.
Meisner, Maurice, Mao's China and After (1977, 1999), doesn't give an overall total either, but he does give estimates for the three principle mass dyings of the Mao years:

  • Terror against the counterrevolutionaries: 2 million people executed during the first three years of the PRC.
  • Great Leap Forward: 15-30 million famine-related deaths.
  • Cultural Revolution: 400,000, citing a 1979 estimate by Agence France Presse.

STALIN:
Although it's too early to be taking sides with absolute certainty, a consensus seems to be forming around a death toll of 20 million. This would adequately account for all documented nastiness without straining credulity:
  • In The Great Terror (1969), Robert Conquest suggested that the overall death toll was 20 million at minimum -- and very likely 50% higher, or 30 million. This would divide roughly as follows: 7M in 1930-36; 3M in 1937-38; 10M in 1939-53. By the time he wrote The Great Terror: A Re-assessment (1992), Conquest was much more confident that 20 million was the likeliest death toll.
  • Britannica, "Stalinism": 20M died in camps, of famine, executions, etc., citing Medvedev
  • Brzezinski: 20-25 million, dividing roughly as follows: 7M destroying the peasantry; 12M in labor camps; 1M excuted during and after WW2.
  • Daniel Chirot:
    • "Lowest credible" estimate: 20M

Total: Low end of 95,000,000
Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls (includes hundreds of sources)
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CHRISTIANITY:

Sanctioned Slavery +
Promotion of colonization +
Crusades +
Inquisition +
"Holy Purging" of barbaric south americans +

There's simply too much shit to copy and paste here but experts put it at roughly 1.5-2 billion.

Christianity and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Colonization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

READ^^ before you open your fucking mouth (I know this will be difficult for some of you).

Why on earth would I believe a religion that directly sanctioned the death of over 1 billion people? Nevermind the indirect violence and social deconstruction that occurred around the globe as a result. And don't tell me "that wasn't christianity, that was blah blah blah" because I could use the exact same argument against hitler, stalin, pol pot, etc...
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Years Hitler was in power = 12
Years Stalin was in power = 12
Years Mao was in power = 31
Total years combined = 55

Years Christianity's been around = 2012

2012/55= 36.6

36.6 * 95m

= 3.477 billion people.
 
I guess "get rid of religion" was the wrong phrase because now I support Stalin and Hitler.

I didn't mean get rid of religious people. I am just saying the world would be a better place if people looked up to Carl Sagan instead of Allah

whatever fuck wickedfire debates...
 
pewep said:
There's simply too much shit to copy and paste here but experts put it at roughly 1.5-2 billion.

Christianity and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Colonization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

READ^^ before you open your fucking mouth (I know this will be difficult for some of you).

Why on earth would I believe a religion that directly sanctioned the death of over 1 billion people? Nevermind the indirect violence and social deconstruction that occurred around the globe as a result. And don't tell me "that wasn't christianity, that was blah blah blah" because I could use the exact same argument against hitler, stalin, pol pot, etc...
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You do realize you pulled that estimate out of your ass right. Give me a credible source. Typical atheist pulling numbers out of his ass. Seriously pubes stop that.

BTW we can also add abortion numbers to your cause. I know atheists dont value human life so lets not count it never mind.
 
TigerUK said:
shit why are there so many gayes these days, reddit is full of them, and now here??

Learn to play by other peoples rules, I'd love to sneak into a lesbain orgy, but if I did I'd be arrested. But I learn to let live, the chruch doesn't want homos, they're a group of private individuals who have their rules and beleifs. If thy want to exclude you, it's their fundamental right.

There is no freedom to be completely accepted by socity, but there is a freedom of religion. If you don't like what christians do, fine create your own religion.

I;m not even christian, I get sick and tired of this bullshit when gay people take things too far. It's not about equality an more it's about forcing others to bend to their will.
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Laws in many countries are based on religious beliefs. When religion impacts on people not involved in that religion, they have a right to protest.
 
This is a retarded argument. Leave it to pewep to go wading waist deep into this shit.

Pewep: Plz do us all a favor and let the christians win. Otherwise it's yet another sin we have committed against their god, and we gotta pay for that shit in their afterlife!

BTW: The one thing you need to prove to win this argument is the same thing that is impossible for any deist to believe: The fact that all religion is just a tool for evil men to gain & hold on to power... This would clearly own the argument, but they can't accept it... So arguing with a brick wall might be more satisfying for you.
 
lukep said:
The fact that all religion is just a tool for evil men to gain & hold on to power...
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What is it that can't be misused by "evil men" to achieve whatever goal?

There may be some parts you hate about certain religions, but if you fail to see the good parts you're just sad

Religion is overall great, but it is subject to interpretation. Evil people will try to interpret it to achieve their goals. It is also like the building block of morality for people

Most of people you hear saying that religion is evil, they are just influenced by media propaganda. You should rather have propaganda to make people believe in a god than making them believe in some other B.S

All things aside, I understand that pewep is just trolling for fun as usual
 
pewep said:
HITLER TOTAL:
  • Courtois: 25,000,000
  • Rummel: 20,946,000 democides
  • Heidenrich, How to Prevent Genocide: 17,000,000 (p.6)
  • Brzezinski: 17,000,000
  • Urlanis: 15-16,000,000 (11-12M civilians + 3.9M POWs)
  • MEDIAN: ca. 15.5M
  • Our Times: 13,000,000 (6M Jews + 7M others)
  • Compton's: 12,000,000
  • Grenville: 10,000,000, including 2M children.
  • NOTE: These numbers only include outright murders, but keep in mind that some 28M civilians and 14M soldiers died in the European War. That's 42,000,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on Hitler to one extent or another.
Meisner, Maurice, Mao's China and After (1977, 1999), doesn't give an overall total either, but he does give estimates for the three principle mass dyings of the Mao years:

  • Terror against the counterrevolutionaries: 2 million people executed during the first three years of the PRC.
  • Great Leap Forward: 15-30 million famine-related deaths.
  • Cultural Revolution: 400,000, citing a 1979 estimate by Agence France Presse.

STALIN:
Although it's too early to be taking sides with absolute certainty, a consensus seems to be forming around a death toll of 20 million. This would adequately account for all documented nastiness without straining credulity:
  • In The Great Terror (1969), Robert Conquest suggested that the overall death toll was 20 million at minimum -- and very likely 50% higher, or 30 million. This would divide roughly as follows: 7M in 1930-36; 3M in 1937-38; 10M in 1939-53. By the time he wrote The Great Terror: A Re-assessment (1992), Conquest was much more confident that 20 million was the likeliest death toll.
  • Britannica, "Stalinism": 20M died in camps, of famine, executions, etc., citing Medvedev
  • Brzezinski: 20-25 million, dividing roughly as follows: 7M destroying the peasantry; 12M in labor camps; 1M excuted during and after WW2.
  • Daniel Chirot:
    • "Lowest credible" estimate: 20M

Total: Low end of 95,000,000
Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls (includes hundreds of sources)
--------
CHRISTIANITY:

Sanctioned Slavery +
Promotion of colonization +
Crusades +
Inquisition +
"Holy Purging" of barbaric south americans +

There's simply too much shit to copy and paste here but experts put it at roughly 1.5-2 billion.

Christianity and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Colonization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

READ^^ before you open your fucking mouth (I know this will be difficult for some of you).

Why on earth would I believe a religion that directly sanctioned the death of over 1 billion people? Nevermind the indirect violence and social deconstruction that occurred around the globe as a result. And don't tell me "that wasn't christianity, that was blah blah blah" because I could use the exact same argument against hitler, stalin, pol pot, etc...
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GODWIN'S LAW STRIKES AGAIN!

Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50r0CnKq7_k]Westboro Baptist Church family disowns daughter[/ame]
 
Dark Ages

Catholic Church and science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.churchinhistory.org/pages/middleages/howthemonkssavedcivilization-ch3.pdf

Role of the Catholic Church in Western civilization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[A]s the Roman Empire fell, as all through Europe matted, unwashed barbarians descended on the Roman cities, looting artifacts and burning books, the Irish, who were just learning to read and write, took up th great labor of copying all western literature - everything they could lay their hands on. These scribes then served as conduits through which the Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian cultures were transmitted to the tribes of Europe, newly settled amid the rubble and ruined vineyards of the civilization they had overwhelmed. Without this Service of the Scribes, everything that happened subsequently would be unthinkable. Without the Mission of the Irish Monks, who single-handedly re-founded European civilization throughout the continent in the bays and valleys of their exile, the world that came after them would have been an entirely different one-a world without books. And our own world would never have come to be.
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TLDR-

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH3yjFFItcY"]Squidbillies: Pointless Banana Orchards - YouTube[/ame]
 
amateursurgeon said:
Gods don't kill people, people do.
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All Gods of monotheistic religions tell you the same thing:
"You'll get the justice after your death with the gift of heaven"

This is the worst level to disregard human life, and this one alone could justify wars fought for god (do you remember the crusades?).

I WANT JUSTICE NOW AND HERE, FUCKING SHIT
 
Flash4Ever said:
All Gods of monotheistic religions tell you the same thing:
"You'll get the justice after your death with the gift of heaven"

This is the worst level to disregard human life, and this one alone could justify wars fought for god (do you remember the crusades?).

I WANT JUSTICE NOW AND HERE, FUCKING SHIT
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What injustice was done to you?
 
jacky8 said:
What is it that can't be misused by "evil men" to achieve whatever goal?
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Not a whole lot... Maybe puppies.

However, making up all-seeing sky fairies that can do incredible things gives them MORE POWER. It's the ultimate scam, and governments themselves are the product of it.


jacky8 said:
There may be some parts you hate about certain religions, but if you fail to see the good parts you're just sad
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I see TONS of good things done by PEOPLE in churches, even in organized religion.

...To credit those good deeds to a sky fairy is really sad and kinda evil to do to those poor people who gave so much of themselves.

-Or were you talking about some "good parts" that an actual sky fairy did without a human accomplice? I'd like to see that.



jacky8 said:
It is also like the building block of morality for people
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This is one of the biggest tools that religious leaders use, period. They make you think that mankind will have no morality without their brand of religion... What a crock of misleading sales copy!

Religion leads people to KILL others in the name of their god... I know, I know, not all religion does that... But when was the last time "The golden Rule" led ppl to kill others?

Morality exists without religion. It's actually just called Logic.


jacky8 said:
Most of people you hear saying that religion is evil, they are just influenced by media propaganda. You should rather have propaganda to make people believe in a god than making them believe in some other B.S
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Well now you have proof that media propaganda is not influencing some to think bad against religion. Know anyone on here that rails against media propaganda more than me?

I came to the conclusion that all religion is horseshit as a child who was forced to go to church and had religious parents. Even when I was 8 I could see that there were too many problems with the official stories and have since run my own tests to see if ANY spirituality/magic/spooky shit was real.

So far, after mankind has been searching for answers for millenia on the subject, there is no conclusive proof of anything supernatural so I'm just not buying it.

...Meanwhile, there's really easy to believe explanations on how all these fake religions would pop up.

Occam's Razor, bro.
 
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pewep said:
HITLER TOTAL:
  • Courtois: 25,000,000
  • Rummel: 20,946,000 democides
  • Heidenrich, How to Prevent Genocide: 17,000,000 (p.6)
  • Brzezinski: 17,000,000
  • Urlanis: 15-16,000,000 (11-12M civilians + 3.9M POWs)
  • MEDIAN: ca. 15.5M
  • Our Times: 13,000,000 (6M Jews + 7M others)
  • Compton's: 12,000,000
  • Grenville: 10,000,000, including 2M children.
  • NOTE: These numbers only include outright murders, but keep in mind that some 28M civilians and 14M soldiers died in the European War. That's 42,000,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on Hitler to one extent or another.
Meisner, Maurice, Mao's China and After (1977, 1999), doesn't give an overall total either, but he does give estimates for the three principle mass dyings of the Mao years:

  • Terror against the counterrevolutionaries: 2 million people executed during the first three years of the PRC.
  • Great Leap Forward: 15-30 million famine-related deaths.
  • Cultural Revolution: 400,000, citing a 1979 estimate by Agence France Presse.

STALIN:
Although it's too early to be taking sides with absolute certainty, a consensus seems to be forming around a death toll of 20 million. This would adequately account for all documented nastiness without straining credulity:
  • In The Great Terror (1969), Robert Conquest suggested that the overall death toll was 20 million at minimum -- and very likely 50% higher, or 30 million. This would divide roughly as follows: 7M in 1930-36; 3M in 1937-38; 10M in 1939-53. By the time he wrote The Great Terror: A Re-assessment (1992), Conquest was much more confident that 20 million was the likeliest death toll.
  • Britannica, "Stalinism": 20M died in camps, of famine, executions, etc., citing Medvedev
  • Brzezinski: 20-25 million, dividing roughly as follows: 7M destroying the peasantry; 12M in labor camps; 1M excuted during and after WW2.
  • Daniel Chirot:
    • "Lowest credible" estimate: 20M

Total: Low end of 95,000,000
Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls (includes hundreds of sources)
--------
CHRISTIANITY:

Sanctioned Slavery +
Promotion of colonization +
Crusades +
Inquisition +
"Holy Purging" of barbaric south americans +

There's simply too much shit to copy and paste here but experts put it at roughly 1.5-2 billion.

Christianity and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Colonization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Crusades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

READ^^ before you open your fucking mouth (I know this will be difficult for some of you).

Why on earth would I believe a religion that directly sanctioned the death of over 1 billion people? Nevermind the indirect violence and social deconstruction that occurred around the globe as a result. And don't tell me "that wasn't christianity, that was blah blah blah" because I could use the exact same argument against hitler, stalin, pol pot, etc...
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Experts estimate you are an idiot.
 
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