Where can I find a good developer?

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Where can I find a good all round developer (i.e. good programming skills, moderate design skills).

I need a good handyman type who will be around on skype often and can work on 10 hour + jobs every now and again.

I used to have a few good guys like this but they've all fell off the map.

Tried elance but Indians are braindead... They have zero common sense. It's easier to do a job myself than explain to an indian how to do it.
 


All depends, what kind of rate are you willing to pay?

You mentioned you previously tried Indians, so I'm guessing they were around $8/hour?
 
I am with Kiopa. If the rate is low, you will get lack of communication and common sense. There are some good developers on Odesk for those that are willing to pay them right.
 
DREMDesigns said:
I am with Kiopa. If the rate is low, you will get lack of communication and common sense. There are some good developers on Odesk for those that are willing to pay them right.
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What do you consider a fair hourly rate for odd jobs here and there? First job I have is 10 to 15 hours, thereafter it might total 4 to 6 hours per week.

Edit: For an american, canadian, brit, aussie etc.
 
I pretty much stopped taking dev jobs unless it's exactly the kind of work I want to do and it pays at least $50/hour. The biggest issue is that dealing with programming clients is a pain because they rarely know exactly what the job involves, unless they are very technical themselves.

There are plenty of developers out there. If I were hiring, I'd look at places specific to what I need. So, I'd look for forums about Magento or whatever vs. trying to find a general purpose coder. At least start by narrowing it down by language. You could convince me to work on a Flask app or a bot in Python much more easily than a PHP site that some $10/hour guy just fucked up, i.e. find coders that WANT to work on the kind of stuff you need.
 
pinchyfingers said:
I pretty much stopped taking dev jobs unless it's exactly the kind of work I want to do and it pays at least $50/hour. The biggest issue is that dealing with programming clients is a pain because they rarely know exactly what the job involves, unless they are very technical themselves.

There are plenty of developers out there. If I were hiring, I'd look at places specific to what I need. So, I'd look for forums about Magento or whatever vs. trying to find a general purpose coder. At least start by narrowing it down by language. You could convince me to work on a Flask app or a bot in Python much more easily than a PHP site that some $10/hour guy just fucked up, i.e. find coders that WANT to work on the kind of stuff you need.
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This...some guys hate working in certain languages...but if you find out what they like to do...chances are they are really good at it.
 
stockfire said:
What do you consider a fair hourly rate for odd jobs here and there? First job I have is 10 to 15 hours, thereafter it might total 4 to 6 hours per week.

Edit: For an american, canadian, brit, aussie etc.
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Sounds like it's just a WP plugin here and there, tweaking some existing code, maybe some scraping, and shit like that, no? If so, $30 - $40/hour should net you a decent intermediate developer than can handle what you need.
 
pinchyfingers said:
I pretty much stopped taking dev jobs unless it's exactly the kind of work I want to do and it pays at least $50/hour. The biggest issue is that dealing with programming clients is a pain because they rarely know exactly what the job involves, unless they are very technical themselves.

There are plenty of developers out there. If I were hiring, I'd look at places specific to what I need. So, I'd look for forums about Magento or whatever vs. trying to find a general purpose coder. At least start by narrowing it down by language. You could convince me to work on a Flask app or a bot in Python much more easily than a PHP site that some $10/hour guy just fucked up, i.e. find coders that WANT to work on the kind of stuff you need.
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It's funny when some clients say "This should be a really simple job" even know they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They try and use keywords like that to expect the price to be lowered or something.
 
dchuk said:
It's not easy to find someone who is both a good developer and good designer. You're better off finding one of each.
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One thing I recently had to learn the hard way. A lot of designers will just lie and outsource the actual development anyways so it's definitely a good idea to have 2 separate people who can just send things to each other once their part of the job is done.
 
mpbiz said:
One thing I recently had to learn the hard way. A lot of designers will just lie and outsource the actual development anyways so it's definitely a good idea to have 2 separate people who can just send things to each other once their part of the job is done.
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LOL I used to work for a legit designer who starts out in the mid 4 figures for a design. He ALWAYS outsourced his development to India for a few hundred. Everything from Wordpress themes to Magento themes.

Biggest Lol ever
 
SirKonstantine said:
LOL I used to work for a legit designer who starts out in the mid 4 figures for a design. He ALWAYS outsourced his development to India for a few hundred. Everything from Wordpress themes to Magento themes.

Biggest Lol ever
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I wouldn't say lol. I'd say smart.
 
You can go to Freelance, Odesk, Elance, have them meet you on skype if you like how they look (profile), then have a pre-set set of questions that will weed out bad the bad english, slow, weak, and poor additude canidates. Then give them a 2 hour assignment and see how they do.
 
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