Where does WF stand on WikiLeaks?

Are you For or Against WikiLeaks?

  • For WikiLeaks

    Votes: 193 69.2%
  • Against WikiLeaks

    Votes: 50 17.9%
  • NEUTRAL

    Votes: 36 12.9%

  • Total voters
    279
I don't give a shit about Wikileaks or Assange.

This is about freedom of press, which must be held as an absolute. So yes, I do support wikileak's rights.
 


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Haha so true.
 
Personally... I'm against Wikileaks. But you guys can do and read whatever you like.

If there is an official WickedFire position on Wikileaks, its NEUTRAL.
 

I re-read the title spooge:

These documents, which are said to have originated mainly from the Israeli embassies in Tel Aviv and Beirut

Erm... No Israeli embassy IN Tel-Aviv.... Furthermore, Lebanon, like all surrounding Arab countries (minus Egypt) won't even officially acknowledge Israel's statehood. Which is what the Arab neighboring countries used as part of their "reasons" for attacking Israel in 1948 to begin with... soooooo... no embassy. If the locations don't exist, then where the fuck were these "deals" struck?

1948 Arab
 
I re-read the title spooge:



Erm... No Israeli embassy IN Tel-Aviv.... Furthermore, Lebanon, like all surrounding Arab countries (minus Egypt) won't even officially acknowledge Israel's statehood. Which is what the Arab neighboring countries used as part of their "reasons" for attacking Israel in 1948 to begin with... soooooo... no embassy. If the locations don't exist, then where the fuck were these "deals" struck?

1948 Arab
VeteransToday is run by lunatics. Pay them no mind.
 
I couldnt care less about wikileaks, but the DDOS attacks against card companies seems pretty dumb.

So neutral i guess.
 
Part of the order was that the United States should not tell these countries that their locations were vital infastructure. Do you think these countries should have been notified of that so they could allocate the necessary resources to combat terrorist attacks? If so, wouldn't this leak actually make us safer?

The United States has a limited ability to protect entities in other countries if their government isn't informed.

no. If nobody knows its considered "vital infrastructure" by the US, they aren't going to attack it. Publishing this cable was like giving our enemies a menu at a restaurant.
 
Some stuff needs to be exposed. Other stuff that's going to get American's who are serving their country killed shouldn't be exposed and is tantamount to treason.
 
Some would say that the morality of that depends on the information itself, and that thinking otherwise is surrendering your own internal concept of morality to some bureaucrat classifying documents.

Some would say not committing homicide when you might want to would be surrendering your internal concept of morality to some bureaucrat making laws.
 
Disregard media, acquire truth.

Personally this whole charade turns my stomach a bit, not the basis of wikileaks or the documents in question but media frenzy and attention surrounding it.

People might say Assange is an enemy of the state, but he's been preaching of transparency in journalism for twenty years now. He fancies himself an intellectual, has admitted and been convicted of international wire fraud in the past. He alone is not wikileaks, and jailing him or hurting him does nothing to their hamper their cause.

With that said, my opinion Assange is being used as a bit of a puppet to ignore the real issues brought up within this incident. I'm not one who believes that transparency in government is required, mankind is not perfect, war occurs for a number of reasons, and it's our responsibility as a world power to protect the intelligence we gather and the commentary of our elected officials regarding matters of policy.

The real issue to be addressed is how we handle the data we collect, if it was able to get into the hands of such extremists it was probably long available to other world governments by way of intelligence.

The fact that everyone allows themselves to become entirely distracted with this load of bullocks is more a problem than the leaking of the information itself. I haven't sought out to read the documents as they are of no interest to me regardless of content personally.

All of the information released was vetted by main stream media outlets prior to it becoming public. The head official for the Pentagon and every respectable member of office believes the information to be slightly embarrassing at worst and agree it will not adversely effect foreign relationships.

Get over it and get back to refreshing stats...
 
What I have found odd is that I don't know a single person who is against wikileaks but people who are against it are all over the internet. Though to be honest, I don't know many people who even know what wikileaks is.

However, I can't help but notice that all the virtually every argument against them is sensationalist and paranoid.

I also can't see how anyone would not want them to publish the Bank of America cables they are sitting on. Someone needs to stick it to the fucking bastards in the bank industry.
 
Most people who are for wikileaks can't see past their own noses. They are entertained by the stories and want more, but they don't realize how it hurts the functioning of their government.
 
I see it the opposite; his actions and undertones are one that are a strong endorsement of freedom, and the actions of the our country ultimately are expressing a profound hatred of the freedoms we once prided ourselves on.
America ignores most of his leaks about other countries, but that doesn't mean they're not there. Russia is apparently one of the coming attractions as well.


Amen.

I'd buy you a beer if you were giving this rant at a bar. Keep up the good work.