Which OS do you work on?
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I use XP the most on my desktop, but my laptop is cursed with Vista. I think, rather than downgrading to XP though, I'm going to just fuck around on Vista until I have it down. This spring I'm thinking of buying another desktop, for the sake of learning Linux, without having to make work inconvenient by learning a new OS.
I think Vista is getting a bad rap. When you compare it to every other major OS when it was new, it stacks up. Sure it takes more resources, because it does more stuff. I'm sure if you ran DOS 6.0 you could accomplish some computational tasks faster, doesn't mean DOS was better. New computers coming out can handle it, and as far as drivers, Vista might not support your old stuff, but it will obviously support any computer it comes stock on. I would never buy a copy of vista to put on an old pc, but I'm definately not buying new PC's for my company and taking XP instead of Vista.
Yesterday I had a meeting with a consulting firm (run of the mill IT/networking mom and pop operation) and the guy was in the meeting telling us that his company was a full fledged microsoft partner, and all microsoft certified. Told us about all the new/inside scoop they get from MS. Then 5 minutes later was telling us about how they don't deal with Vista much, and never recommend it, because they don't see any difference. Then when asked about the prospects of Server 2008, the guy basically said, "It doesn't have anything new, it's just server 2003 with a vista interface." Couldn't be further from the truth and anyone that is really in the know would realize that.
I guess it just boils down to too many people listening to media hype, and not really going after it themselves. Then again I see plenty of people who have Vista and aren't happy, but I wonder if other factors might effect that. For example, I wonder if people are seeing XP outrun Vista on comparable machines, which is probably true, but as I said before, Vista wasn't put out to run on all the machines you bought in the last year or 4, it is designed to go on the machines you will be buying for the next three years. Having 2 gigs of ram a year from now will be pretty standard. Another thing that might be changing the way we see Vista is the aftermarket support. I wonder if the "public opinion" (read - media opinion) has changed the ways other companies are supporting it. Kind of like the Beta/VHS or BluRay/HD-DVD fights where the superior product might not be seen in as good of a light or marketed the right way, and all the aftermarket supports something else. I can see how that would change someone's opinion when companies put less money into producing programs or hardware to utilize the new features in Vista and more money in other "popular" os's. Just wondering about some of these things today, maybe I'll do some reading myself.
Yesterday I had a meeting with a consulting firm (run of the mill IT/networking mom and pop operation) and the guy was in the meeting telling us that his company was a full fledged microsoft partner, and all microsoft certified. Told us about all the new/inside scoop they get from MS. Then 5 minutes later was telling us about how they don't deal with Vista much, and never recommend it, because they don't see any difference. Then when asked about the prospects of Server 2008, the guy basically said, "It doesn't have anything new, it's just server 2003 with a vista interface." Couldn't be further from the truth and anyone that is really in the know would realize that.
I guess it just boils down to too many people listening to media hype, and not really going after it themselves. Then again I see plenty of people who have Vista and aren't happy, but I wonder if other factors might effect that. For example, I wonder if people are seeing XP outrun Vista on comparable machines, which is probably true, but as I said before, Vista wasn't put out to run on all the machines you bought in the last year or 4, it is designed to go on the machines you will be buying for the next three years. Having 2 gigs of ram a year from now will be pretty standard. Another thing that might be changing the way we see Vista is the aftermarket support. I wonder if the "public opinion" (read - media opinion) has changed the ways other companies are supporting it. Kind of like the Beta/VHS or BluRay/HD-DVD fights where the superior product might not be seen in as good of a light or marketed the right way, and all the aftermarket supports something else. I can see how that would change someone's opinion when companies put less money into producing programs or hardware to utilize the new features in Vista and more money in other "popular" os's. Just wondering about some of these things today, maybe I'll do some reading myself.
Used to use vista but nothing used to work with it, so little drivers for it (got it when it first came out). went back to xp, and will probably stick with it for a few years. don't see the point in going with linux, even though there seems to be as many ubuntu fanboys as apple fanboys now 
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might end up with a mac one day. once i've gotten round to trying out a mac. never used one. they look nice though
.might end up with a mac one day. once i've gotten round to trying out a mac. never used one. they look nice though
I'm running Vista when I'm at my day job and when I'm doing my own shit at home I'm running XP.
I just installed Vista Ultimate and realized that they dropped the ability to move toolbars off the taskbar because it was "confusing" to computer retards that do it by accident and can't get it back to "normal". I have had a quicklaunch toolbar running along the right side of my screen for atleast 10 years. I start every program that I commonly use from that quicklaunch bar. I am keeping Vista for now to see if I adjust to it, but I have already considered going back to XP after less than 1 day. 
My old XP desktop with quicklaunch sidebar.....
My old XP desktop with quicklaunch sidebar.....
I use a custom Vista Lite with all sorts of shit stripped from it like the speech engine, windows defender, games. It also has things like windows media player dekernelized and standalone for a more modular application arrangement.
Then of course most of the bloat is destroyed including shit like preinstalled windows themes and wallpaper and ALL that shit. Fucking garbage. Microsoft DESPERATELY needs to allow a custom installation where you can check/uncheck every preinstall.
I was using one of the XP Lite distros but decided to try out Vista Lite last Nov. Not bad.
Then of course most of the bloat is destroyed including shit like preinstalled windows themes and wallpaper and ALL that shit. Fucking garbage. Microsoft DESPERATELY needs to allow a custom installation where you can check/uncheck every preinstall.
I was using one of the XP Lite distros but decided to try out Vista Lite last Nov. Not bad.
I'm on OS X and i'm a complete Noob. I was afraid that I might need to switch to a PC but it looks like I don't have to at all.
Here's a question for other OS X users, are there any hosting companies you can recommend that work better for macs?
Here's a question for other OS X users, are there any hosting companies you can recommend that work better for macs?
it makes little (no) difference what os you are using with regards to your hosting company... or the other way round... 
just get a decent mac ftp program and you should be sorted. if you're getting a bit advanced you will need something like putty for shell access. but i think mac has something like that built in? (should do ... based on unix) and maybe some db interface - but phpmyadmin should work fine (and is browser based) if you use mysql......
just get a decent mac ftp program and you should be sorted. if you're getting a bit advanced you will need something like putty for shell access. but i think mac has something like that built in? (should do ... based on unix) and maybe some db interface - but phpmyadmin should work fine (and is browser based) if you use mysql......
Dual Boot Installation
"Yup it sure does, you just gotta partition properly so you don't fuck up your windows install"
Win 2K on my old laptop. Dual boot Vista and Ubuntu on my new Dell. I followed the advice here (sort of) and it works OK.
How to dual-boot Vista with Linux (Vista installed first) | APC Magazine
Don't know Ubuntu very well yet - installed it because I hate Vista so far and I find that Ubuntu is easier and has less shit in my way that I have to click through.
Art Deco
"Yup it sure does, you just gotta partition properly so you don't fuck up your windows install"
Win 2K on my old laptop. Dual boot Vista and Ubuntu on my new Dell. I followed the advice here (sort of) and it works OK.
How to dual-boot Vista with Linux (Vista installed first) | APC Magazine
Don't know Ubuntu very well yet - installed it because I hate Vista so far and I find that Ubuntu is easier and has less shit in my way that I have to click through.
Art Deco
Classic Windows XP SP2
I cannot manage to live with a MAC only, too less possibilities!
Browsers
Mozilla Firefox and
IE 5.0 (classic)
I don't want to leave right now, no better alternatives (vista sux, and i explained MAC has too little possibilities.
Yes, tasted em'!
I don't like eye candy so i don't buy into vista's crap (undeveloped software).
I cannot manage to live with a MAC only, too less possibilities!
Browsers
Mozilla Firefox and
IE 5.0 (classic)
I don't want to leave right now, no better alternatives (vista sux, and i explained MAC has too little possibilities.
Yes, tasted em'!
I don't like eye candy so i don't buy into vista's crap (undeveloped software).
I love the Macs, if only because I don't have to constantly upgrade to keep up with the software releases. I've had my G4 for about four years now, and now that I'm getting ready to update to CS3 I'm going with a new Mac Pro, which should last me even longer.
The thing I hate about them is the lack of options. The upgrades from their standard sets tend to be ridiculously expensive, so you're pretty much taking what they tell you to take, except maybe adding the $50 WiFi card. Not to mention the, uh, dazzling variety of styles they come in. Hooray for conformity.
The thing I hate about them is the lack of options. The upgrades from their standard sets tend to be ridiculously expensive, so you're pretty much taking what they tell you to take, except maybe adding the $50 WiFi card. Not to mention the, uh, dazzling variety of styles they come in. Hooray for conformity.
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