Who here could handle a "real" job nowadays?

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Was reading the thread at: http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/106030-30k-year-60k-year-rant-poll.html

Got me thinking. Who here could actually handle a real, 9-5 job nowadays? Wake up every morning to your alarm clock at 7am, shower, shave, get dressed, then rush to office. Have a boss who explains what you'll be doing that day (in order to make him money), you get 1 hour for lunch starting at 12 noon, then get to leave the office at 5pm, etc. Then you have to plan your traveling around the 4 - 6 weeks of vacation time you have a year, you'll be lucky to get a 4% raise per-year, you have to be polite to other people in the office even though you don't like them, etc.

Fuck me, after 11 years of doing this, there's simply no way I could handle a conventional job anymore. I would probably just laugh at my boss, and quit the first day. Unless it was some extraordinary opportunity, which would drastically change my life for the better, can't see myself doing it.

How about you? Could you handle a "real job" again?
 


I have never had a traditional office job. Why start now? I think only equity could make me do it. (HI Tom ;))
 
I really don't see the point in working a 9-5 job if you're not involved with the company. I never saw the point really, I have done it in the past, and I felt like I was making some guy at the top rich, and he getting all the fruits of my labor and I'm stuck on a plane.
 
Haha right now I work a 9-5 as a in-house Seo guy. A 9-5 has certain perks to it. Not many but a few lol.
 
flaw3d said:
Haha right now I work a 9-5 as a in-house Seo guy. A 9-5 has certain perks to it. Not many but a few lol.
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You're right you'll never hear a slave complain about a lack of job security.

OP: I'd have to get offered wall street money in order to work for someone else.
 
I can tell you this, depending on what your doing there is benefit to it.

Being able to be employed and "outsource" your job to someone else is a for sure plus. I can see this working in Internet marketing, but not most other jobs. I once had a job before years ago where I was hired as the Internet marketing guy where 90% of my job was SEO. My employer didn't know this, but I just ended up hiring out odd jobs to people on Wickedfire and also got a VA for $300 a month who I made do most of the SEO shit.

From time to time I would need to send out an email or do some PPC shit, but other then that, about 18 days out of a 20 day work month I spent playing poker online, building up MFA sites, and learning about affiliate marketing while pulling in a $90k a salary from my employer. What I did was no different then how a lot of guys here arbitrage PPC, CPA , or service offers, I just did with my job.

Spend $400-$500 a month on a PPC campaign, make $2000 back ( but face getting banned, doing cloaking, shaving, scrubbing, etc on affiliate offers, hosting going down, etc ) OR spend $400-$500 a month and make $5000 a month in salary ( but have to deal with driving to work, listening to a boss yap his jaws, 1 hour lunch, etc ). With some of these jobs at least you count on pretty much making your salary for months ( unless your a fuck up and get fired ).

I see no difference in this then having:
a client
a steady ppc/cpa campaign

If your doing some other jobs though where you cant do the above.. then FUCK NO, I WOULD NOT GO BACK TO ONE.
 
danke said:
You're right you'll never hear a slave complain about a lack of job security.
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You thought he was inferring to job security? I just assumed he was inferring to banging the secretary. :)

So flaw3d, what's up? What perks are we missing out on?
 
^^ this. but I assumed off the bat the OP meant the "traditonal" accepted idea of one where you have a slave driver ( boss or wife ) ;)
 
The only advantage to a "real" 9-5 job is you can learn while getting paid vs paying to learn (college). Of course you have to get your foot in the door 1st but it can be a good way to get the skills to venture out on your own.

With that being said, I think once you have been successful on your own it is very difficult if not impossible to go back to being a 9-5 drone.

Same as being poor while it sucks, it sucks less than being former baller who is now poor. Point of reference is the key.
 
I have a real job.

But the owner is kinda like Kruger from Seinfeld.

Actually its the best job I evah had -- he's not a ballbuster in any way.

I basically run shit like it's my own business and he never questions any decision I make.

Having said that I am working to get out.
 
I left my real job 2 months ago because it was so depressing. When you are your own boss for a long time and then you have to take orders from some incompetent fool and act fake all the time to your co workers, I just didn't see the point. I think only certain people are cut out to be lemmings like that.
 
I'd rather not not, now that I know what it feels like to go to bed / wake up at whatever time I want, wherever in the world I want.

I denied a permanent position at the United Nations to do this shit. That job included a highly competitive tax-free salary, 6 weeks paid vacation per year, a diplomatic passport + a kaleidoscope of benefits you couldn't even imagine.

This will either be the best or dumbest decision I ever made. I'll tell you in a year or 2. For now I have no regrets... except perhaps my social life that isn't as vibrant as it used to be. But that's up to me to put more efforts into hanging out with people.
 
avatar33 said:
I denied a permanent position at the United Nations to do this shit. That job included a highly competitive tax-free salary, 6 weeks paid vacation per year, a diplomatic passport + a kaleidoscope of benefits you couldn't even imagine.
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Ohhh... now here's exactly what I meant in my OP about an extraordinary opportunity. Depending on the job details, and required contract length, that's something I would have possibly went for.
 
I have a job. All I have to do is turn up by around 9am and not fuck up and they pay me $1100 for the day. Yes that money is only 5 days per week (rather than 7) and I have all the bullshit you detailed above, but the job is flexible enough that I can take 2hr lunches and work on IM shit during the day and nobody bats an eyelid so long as my work gets done. It's a large company so my boss is a middle manager who is in the same boat as me, so he gives a little more of a fuck but not by much.

The issue I have is getting enough motivation to work on IM in the evenings after I get home from work, but I know I'm building a long term future so I do it. I have a fair way to go before I match my daytime salary with a long term profitible IM business but it's slowly getting there.
 
DreamMachine said:
I have a job. All I have to do is turn up by around 9am and not fuck up and they pay me $1100 for the day. Yes that money is only 5 days per week (rather than 7) and I have all the bullshit you detailed above, but the job is flexible enough that I can take 2hr lunches and work on IM shit during the day and nobody bats an eyelid so long as my work gets done. It's a large company so my boss is a middle manager who is in the same boat as me, so he gives a little more of a fuck but not by much.

The issue I have is getting enough motivation to work on IM in the evenings after I get home from work, but I know I'm building a long term future so I do it. I have a fair way to go before I match my daytime salary with a long term profitible IM business but it's slowly getting there.
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if they are paying you $1100 for the day, why would you work for yourself?

Thats like $22,000 a month right?
 
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