Will going Offline be the next big boom?

I'm relatively neutral when it comes to security. If I really had something to hide from the government, I guess I would be concerned about having complete privacy. But it's not like they'd have any reason to look at me anyway. As such, I can give a fuck.

However, on a purely principle standpoint, I wouldn't want the government to get too much in my shit. Having all your information on public sites, especially Facebook, just allows them to "connect the dots" much easier, if and when they do have a reason to start looking at you.

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This is an interesting idea for a niche. How about calling it Alienation Marketing?

In truth, I don't think it's possible to truly disappear, even if you could theoretically remove yourself from the internet. It's impossible to use a credit card, book an airline ticket or drive a car without being tracked.

When you visit a mall you're being videotaped, when you make a phone call it's recorded by the phone company, license plates are photographed as they enter toll booths and bridges, etc., etc. It's difficult to get through a day without leaving traces of your activities, online and off.

That said, interesting niche.
 
boatBurner said:
The argument against this issue goes much deeper than privacy. I conduct myself online the same way I would offline and purposefully do little to conceal my identity. Like many, I have little to hide but that does not make me okay with the government standing post on every method of digital communication and transaction.

The only difference between this and having to show your identification to an armed guard every time you get in your car to travel, purchase a product from a retailer or engage in a conversation with your neighbor is that this is automated and less apparent.

Most disturbing is that the level of "freedom" my children will grow to know is relative to issues like these. By experience, they don't know differently. Implementing a curfew may seem less significant to them than it would to us. And gradually, the oppression escalates.

I can choose to be an idealist and talk about the flaws in recognizing government at all or show little surprise that this is finally being confirmed, but neither of those do much to address the severe implications of this public acknowledgement.

By the U.S. publicly backing this sort of behavior, this further cripples already oppressed peoples in other countries. Globally, the U.S. has taken a side. Charade or not, that holds weight.

If the U.S. sits by and if the internet outrage isn't enough to curb this kind of public declaration, then we lose our ability to get mad the next time the envelop is pushed just under the bar. Again, charade or not, this holds weight.

And for the same reason the U.S. founders deemed it necessary to provide the 2nd amendment, I would argue that the internet should be regarded similarly.

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That's a lot of what Ifs, I understand the concerns but the outrage should happen when the powers are abused, right now it's being used to track down terrorist attacks and increase the security for all. I think a bigger concern is the IRS looking into tax payers for no other reason then their connection to groups with a certain political leaning.
 
SHGDigitalMedia said:
I understand the concerns but the outrage should happen when the powers are abused, right now it's being used to track down terrorist attacks and increase the security for all.
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So...the government that always denied they were doing this shit gets outed, and now you believe them when they tell you what they're doing with the info.

Are you fucking retarded?
 
BilltheButcher said:
The Internet is just a fad. Offline is the way to go.
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I see the point went right over your head. I am not talking about leaving the internet. What I am talking about is how people may change their online behaviors. It may mean they don't share the way they do today. It may mean they use isolated non internet enabled devices for security.

I honestly have no idea what it will look like in 10 years. But I am certain people are going to start pulling their information back. People are already losing potential employment due to their internet behavior. Relationships have begun and ended because of the internet. How will their behaviors change? Who knows? Either way I am certain privacy is going to be a multi billion dollar business (it probably already is)
 
I think these products would appeal more to a higher-end niche and definitely not the mainstream. The majority of people are just oblivious to everything - they complain about privacy in the case of randoms being able to see their favorite TV show on their Facebook profile, but they don't care about privacy in the case of their home addresses, phone numbers, and so on being available on other sites. If you actually wanted to create a privacy-related product with mainstream appeal, it would have to be some bullshit service (read: "ripoff to smart people") like how to private your Facebook and Twitter profiles and shit like that, because nobody really cares/knows about anything else.

Perfect example is what Will posted. You can look at that site for 5 seconds and tell it has no mainstream appeal and only appeals to a tiny % of people. Not that that's a bad thing, just pointing it out.

Personally I don't think the internet will ever lose traction due to privacy concerns. Face it, if you map out a curve of intelligence, WF is probably the top 1%, and there are probably even people here who don't understand or give a fuck, therefore the other 99% of the population definitely don't.
 
First world problems. You'd be surprised how easy it is to obt41n birth c3rts/id(s) from 3rd world countries and do business incognito. Get burned, toss that shit, rinse & repeat.

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Who they gonna track?
 
anyone else get scared that the interwebs will collapse?

I do.

What then?

We are all out of a job.

What would we all do?

Set up local PC intranets based on local cat 5 systems?

Wait tables?

I'm 100% dependent on online stuff for my monies and would be kinda f'd if anything happened.
 
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