WTF is with all this "Bullying" hype lately?
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lol I wasn't in school/born in 1985 but i remember calling the lunch ladies aids lol. I totally forgot about that, it just sounds funny now that I'm older.
The ragging in India happens in colleges. Students are already in their late teens. The ones you described seems to be happening mostly in the pre-teen or early teen years. I never faced something like this nor heard any friends experiencing anything similar...
just because americans have a problem doesn't mean everyone has the same problem.
i remember having a group of "rejected" kids that were my best buddies in grade school and i was expelled because the administration thought i was a leader of a gang lol
we were just friends who had each others backs but we never went after anyone.
also whats funny is the actual gangs in the school were never punished like that. because they were all native canadian of course. even though they totally thought they were crips, did drugs and had weapons.
Ah, now I pine for the good old days at public school when common decency was unheard of, you just said whatever the fuck you wanted to anyone with no real consequences. I was on both ends of the bullying stick at different points in my life, and I found them both to be pleasant distractions from my sub-par education. The trick is to become the bully if you are being bullied, fight back hard and use those low-blows (verbally and physically). Most antagonistic bullies don't have much prepared after their first couple actions, any relatively smart person can deal with a bully.
Any respectable parent will reward you on your days off from school if you get in any real trouble, and when you come back everyone respects you more.
Nowadays the cops get involved with every little scuffle, especially in small suburban towns like mine. They teach 'em young to let the "upholders of justice" stand up for your rights, that isn't your job. The next generation is doomed to pussydom.
Any respectable parent will reward you on your days off from school if you get in any real trouble, and when you come back everyone respects you more.
Nowadays the cops get involved with every little scuffle, especially in small suburban towns like mine. They teach 'em young to let the "upholders of justice" stand up for your rights, that isn't your job. The next generation is doomed to pussydom.
They're using it to push pro-homosexual/tranny/gender confusion propaganda. Sounds crazy as usual, until you Neanderthals look below the surface. Look what England did under the guise of "anti-bullying" programs, now they keep databases on elementary schoolkids for stating an "incorrect" word.
I was bullied slightly in middle school and the early years in highschools, but fighting back puts a quick stop to it. I was a very small kid before I turned 16; about 5 foot tall @ 105 lbs; so I was an easy target. But whenever I was bullied, I was respond back verbally as well as get in their face. I did take a few slaps and tackles throughout the process but that was as far as it went ~ 1 month ordeal at most and then you're left alone for the remaining school year.
During my years in highschool I ended up transferring to a Catholic private school, and well bullying did not exist there. My graduating class was only 200 students and everyone was cool with each other, even with the oddballs. EIther way by then I ended up getting my growth spurt, and going to the gym so I wasn't an easy target by appearance. I'm in college now and don't see any sort of bullying; it's good to see that people grow up.
But yep, I 100% agree that the only way to stop bullying is by reacting back. Bullies love picking on people that keep to themselves and take the blows without reacting back. Just sucks that the system punishes both students if a fight does come out of it.
During my years in highschool I ended up transferring to a Catholic private school, and well bullying did not exist there. My graduating class was only 200 students and everyone was cool with each other, even with the oddballs. EIther way by then I ended up getting my growth spurt, and going to the gym so I wasn't an easy target by appearance. I'm in college now and don't see any sort of bullying; it's good to see that people grow up.
But yep, I 100% agree that the only way to stop bullying is by reacting back. Bullies love picking on people that keep to themselves and take the blows without reacting back. Just sucks that the system punishes both students if a fight does come out of it.
I too blame the parents and the whole fucked system
My daughter was getting bullied
at junior school in the latter stages, went to school to resolve it , nothing doing, so met/ doorstepped the parent
explained , it stopped,
she then went to senior scoool same year ...started there, again I went and met with the school, another load of hand-wringing wishy washy shit, it got really bad I pulled her out of school-home taught, and then I went like a rabid dog at the authorities....upshot of it is
She is now attending an all girl state school which is one of the top schools in the country...she loves it, and yes there is minor bullying but she is holding her own and getting good marks...never ever give up...and inspire them
My daughter was getting bullied
at junior school in the latter stages, went to school to resolve it , nothing doing, so met/ doorstepped the parent
explained , it stopped,
she then went to senior scoool same year ...started there, again I went and met with the school, another load of hand-wringing wishy washy shit, it got really bad I pulled her out of school-home taught, and then I went like a rabid dog at the authorities....upshot of it is
She is now attending an all girl state school which is one of the top schools in the country...she loves it, and yes there is minor bullying but she is holding her own and getting good marks...never ever give up...and inspire them
My wife was asking me about this very issue this morning, along the lines of "What the hell is up with all this talk about 'bullying' now?"
My response was, "I don't know - but new rules cannot change human nature."
So let's say Great Leader has a nationwide symposium on bullying, and there are new federal mandates against bullying in schools. They declare bullying to be illegal. Will that change the nature of the people who naturally are more "alpha" and aggressive and have no qualms about pushing the smaller kids around? No. That's ridiculous. There's an agenda here, and it has nothing to do with actually stopping bullies - a fool's errand.
It's just like the OWS movement. It's a whiny-baby movement. These kids camp out for a month (I wonder how they can afford that, by the way) and they whine about not having as much as the Wall Street big-wigs. So what? I'm against corruption and I'm anti-fascist, but I'm also an advocate of self-respect and self-reliance. If you don't have something you want, then fucking go get it. Work for it, learn a new skill and get it, whatever - make your own destiny.
If these hipster kids (and yes they look almost all under-30) ever get what they want - Communism, to put a name to it - then I guarantee in a year the same "haves" of today would become the haves of tomorrow. Why? Because their nature is to game the system, extract money from the have-nots and do-nothings, and the profit above all. They do it in our current fascist system, they would do it in a true free market, and they would do it in a commune. Because that's what they know how to do.
Back to bullies: same thing. Even if you made rules, created punishments, and leveled the playing field ("all involved parties in a fight will be equally guilty") it will solve nothing. Bullies will be bullies. The solution is obvious to anyone with a shred of common sense and intelligence (and life experience): kids who are picked on need to stand up to their bully and fight them.
When I was a kid (in first grade) I was bullied. It went on for weeks. Finally my older cousin taught me how to punch, how to put someone in a full nelson, and how to kick someone in the balls. He also told me that there is nothing dishonorable in a fight except being the loser.
I remember the day I was no longer bullied, and it was when the two kids came up to me while I was on the playground at recess. I literally took a flying leap at the leader and then fucking pounded his head to the ground - on the sidewalk. He lay there saying "Ah want mah momma...ah want mah momma...." while his sidekick and I stood there looking at him. The playground monitor casually walked over and looked at him, and asked him if he wanted to see the school nurse. That was in 1984, so things were different.
Another time, a few years later, I had a bully problem. (I was a nice kid, and not a jock or anything so I guess I was looked upon as a possible target.) That bully got hit with a Gremlins lunch box. I didn't know if I should laugh of cry when it was over: I used my favorite lunch box to pummel my tormenter and it was ruined, but it was so satisfying to see him laying on the ground, cradling his knee and crying. [Relevant note to all you 90's kids: this was in the late 1980's so it was a metal lunch box. I still have it by the way.]
(Oh yeah...my cousin who taught me to be ruthless? He had been bullied when he was a kid. My uncle told me that it all ended when he gave my cousin a whoopin' for being beat up when he came home from school. My cousin went to the kids house that night and challenged the bully to a fight. They fought it out right there - with my uncle watching. My cousin won the fight.)
My response was, "I don't know - but new rules cannot change human nature."
So let's say Great Leader has a nationwide symposium on bullying, and there are new federal mandates against bullying in schools. They declare bullying to be illegal. Will that change the nature of the people who naturally are more "alpha" and aggressive and have no qualms about pushing the smaller kids around? No. That's ridiculous. There's an agenda here, and it has nothing to do with actually stopping bullies - a fool's errand.
It's just like the OWS movement. It's a whiny-baby movement. These kids camp out for a month (I wonder how they can afford that, by the way) and they whine about not having as much as the Wall Street big-wigs. So what? I'm against corruption and I'm anti-fascist, but I'm also an advocate of self-respect and self-reliance. If you don't have something you want, then fucking go get it. Work for it, learn a new skill and get it, whatever - make your own destiny.
If these hipster kids (and yes they look almost all under-30) ever get what they want - Communism, to put a name to it - then I guarantee in a year the same "haves" of today would become the haves of tomorrow. Why? Because their nature is to game the system, extract money from the have-nots and do-nothings, and the profit above all. They do it in our current fascist system, they would do it in a true free market, and they would do it in a commune. Because that's what they know how to do.
Back to bullies: same thing. Even if you made rules, created punishments, and leveled the playing field ("all involved parties in a fight will be equally guilty") it will solve nothing. Bullies will be bullies. The solution is obvious to anyone with a shred of common sense and intelligence (and life experience): kids who are picked on need to stand up to their bully and fight them.
When I was a kid (in first grade) I was bullied. It went on for weeks. Finally my older cousin taught me how to punch, how to put someone in a full nelson, and how to kick someone in the balls. He also told me that there is nothing dishonorable in a fight except being the loser.
I remember the day I was no longer bullied, and it was when the two kids came up to me while I was on the playground at recess. I literally took a flying leap at the leader and then fucking pounded his head to the ground - on the sidewalk. He lay there saying "Ah want mah momma...ah want mah momma...." while his sidekick and I stood there looking at him. The playground monitor casually walked over and looked at him, and asked him if he wanted to see the school nurse. That was in 1984, so things were different.
Another time, a few years later, I had a bully problem. (I was a nice kid, and not a jock or anything so I guess I was looked upon as a possible target.) That bully got hit with a Gremlins lunch box. I didn't know if I should laugh of cry when it was over: I used my favorite lunch box to pummel my tormenter and it was ruined, but it was so satisfying to see him laying on the ground, cradling his knee and crying. [Relevant note to all you 90's kids: this was in the late 1980's so it was a metal lunch box. I still have it by the way.]
(Oh yeah...my cousin who taught me to be ruthless? He had been bullied when he was a kid. My uncle told me that it all ended when he gave my cousin a whoopin' for being beat up when he came home from school. My cousin went to the kids house that night and challenged the bully to a fight. They fought it out right there - with my uncle watching. My cousin won the fight.)
Just saw this in today's newpaper. I don't know details. Probably incessant non-stop harrasment by other kids.
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/region_northern_kentucky/covington/Family%3A-Bullying-led-to-teen%27s-suicide_6829568
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/region_northern_kentucky/covington/Family%3A-Bullying-led-to-teen%27s-suicide_6829568
CharisMannequin
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Im a 90's kid. The generations that go after me are well and truly fucked. I'll tell you one thing though - the day I have kids, I'll be one of the few that will teach my kids to defend themselves and if someone hits them or tries to, make damn sure you hit them twice as hard and they'll never fucking try it on again.
I put up with this shit from this one kid in the year below me a few years ago (about 4-5 years ago to be specific). Now, im the last guy to start fights, but when it comes to my friends, im the first one in. This kid kept throwing stones at my friend; I turned around, told him to pack it in.
Needless to say, the fucking moron didn't get it, and so I knocked his fucking lights out. Twice. Then I kicked him in the spine a few times so he got the message.
After that, the shit stopped, and I don't think I was ever bullied again after that - never had any shit throughout my whole educational life since. We had a talk with the school governors (bunch of girl's blouses), I generally ignored what they were saying, and ever since he's made an effort to say hi to me.
The thing that annoyed me was that we fought (well, I battered him) outside of school, so why did the school have to get involved? Stupid systems..
I put up with this shit from this one kid in the year below me a few years ago (about 4-5 years ago to be specific). Now, im the last guy to start fights, but when it comes to my friends, im the first one in. This kid kept throwing stones at my friend; I turned around, told him to pack it in.
Needless to say, the fucking moron didn't get it, and so I knocked his fucking lights out. Twice. Then I kicked him in the spine a few times so he got the message.
After that, the shit stopped, and I don't think I was ever bullied again after that - never had any shit throughout my whole educational life since. We had a talk with the school governors (bunch of girl's blouses), I generally ignored what they were saying, and ever since he's made an effort to say hi to me.
The thing that annoyed me was that we fought (well, I battered him) outside of school, so why did the school have to get involved? Stupid systems..
We used to fight up at the sawdust pile above the school next to the abandoned sawmill during lunchtime.
I remember coming back to school with a big ass shiner and a cut on my lip and telling my 5th period teacher I fell off my bike in the gravel. I don't know if she believed me or not but she certainly didn't give a shit.
#truestory
I remember coming back to school with a big ass shiner and a cut on my lip and telling my 5th period teacher I fell off my bike in the gravel. I don't know if she believed me or not but she certainly didn't give a shit.
#truestory