Thankfully we lost the world cup to Qatar



trickykid said:
Ok, I was teasing about the cokes and hotdogs, but you know what? I played Rugby and Football in highschool and I can tell you that I was a lot more fatigued when playing rugby because it was a harder sport to play, however I was a lot more hurt in Football BECAUSE of the equipment.

When you're playing Rugby, and someone tackles you, it's body on body. That's not always the case in Football. You can take a helmet to the knee which HURTS. You can have someone drill you in the lower back where the equipment doesn't cover, etc etc....In my other post, I pretty much said that you cant just take football players and have them play against rugby players because the sports are different, rules are different, etc...

My biggest turn off to the sport of football in general is that the players are for the most part dedicated to one aspect of the game. It's the only sport I can think of (and please enlighten me otherwise) where an Offensive player does not have to play defence and vice versa. The odd exception is during a turnover, where 9/10 times both teams look lost.
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CliffsNotes - You train for a specific sport to be good at that sport...not another. Aka, a football player trains for football...a rugby player trains for rugby. Soccer ain't bad if that's all you can play but there are many other sports in the world that are wayyyyyyy more interesting.

TrickyKid, you are completely correct in saying that a higher level of cardiovascular fitness is required to play rugby than to play football. That is dictated by the way the game has evolved. An NFL o-lineman has been eating, lifting, and training specifically to have an emphasis on size and power rather than mobility and endurance. If that same 28 y/o man had been training to be a forward for the past 14 years of his life he would be a dominant rugby player. Same goes for the top rugby players. It all comes down to the fact that those people have been training for a specific sport which requires a high degree of specialization.
Another major difference between the two sports is that football involves more complex strategy and perfect execution that just about any other sport. When a team lines up they are looking to execute a few variations of a play that is specifically designed to defeat an opposing defense but the quarterback can change that on the fly if they read that the opposing defense is setup to properly defend the play (and vice-versa). In football, players on the field are merely very talented instruments that are executing the decisions of expert talent on the sidelines (coaches...aka, field generals) who are telling their troops what to do.

Lastly, for those of you who say that Americans dont understand the subtleties or intricacies of soccer - bullshit. I, like millions of other kids in the US, grew up playing soccer from the age of 6. By the time I was in highschool I was done with the sport because it was simply less exciting to play than the other sports I was competing in. I was better at soccer and played at a much higher level but the simple fact of the matter is that soccer is not as much fun to play as other sports for a variety of reasons. It is less physical than many American sports, it is less complex, and the best athletes in the US dont play soccer so those of us that had a desire to test our mental and athletic prowess against the best of the best played other games for that reason as well.
The simple fact of the matter is that we have the means to play other sports that are far more interesting. So we do.
 
Rage9 said:
The only reason there is ANY interest in soccer in this country is immigrants. If you where born and raised American, chances are you do not give two flying fucks about it.

Why do they come here? Because their home country sucks dick, just like soccer.
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Dude, you and hellblazer must have attended the same schools because you two share the same mastery of logic and rhetoric.

Roughly 25M people in the US play soccer according to the latest FIFA numbers (which means people who are registered to play). Most of them are young white kids from the 'burbs. I was raised in America, my family has been here for 5 generations, and I grew up playing soccer. Most people I know who played (I played from the age of 6 through 16) had a similar story despite the fact that I grew up in an area with a very large immigrant population.
 
aswinglater said:
CliffsNotes - You train for a specific sport to be good at that sport...not another. Aka, a football player trains for football...a rugby player trains for rugby. Soccer ain't bad if that's all you can play but there are many other sports in the world that are wayyyyyyy more interesting.

TrickyKid, you are completely correct in saying that a higher level of cardiovascular fitness is required to play rugby than to play football. That is dictated by the way the game has evolved. An NFL o-lineman has been eating, lifting, and training specifically to have an emphasis on size and power rather than mobility and endurance. If that same 28 y/o man had been training to be a forward for the past 14 years of his life he would be a dominant rugby player. Same goes for the top rugby players. It all comes down to the fact that those people have been training for a specific sport which requires a high degree of specialization.
Another major difference between the two sports is that football involves more complex strategy and perfect execution that just about any other sport. When a team lines up they are looking to execute a few variations of a play that is specifically designed to defeat an opposing defense but the quarterback can change that on the fly if they read that the opposing defense is setup to properly defend the play (and vice-versa). In football, players on the field are merely very talented instruments that are executing the decisions of expert talent on the sidelines (coaches...aka, field generals) who are telling their troops what to do.

Lastly, for those of you who say that Americans dont understand the subtleties or intricacies of soccer - bullshit. I, like millions of other kids in the US, grew up playing soccer from the age of 6. By the time I was in highschool I was done with the sport because it was simply less exciting to play than the other sports I was competing in. I was better at soccer and played at a much higher level but the simple fact of the matter is that soccer is not as much fun to play as other sports for a variety of reasons. It is less physical than many American sports, it is less complex, and the best athletes in the US dont play soccer so those of us that had a desire to test our mental and athletic prowess against the best of the best played other games for that reason as well.
The simple fact of the matter is that we have the means to play other sports that are far more interesting. So we do.
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yessss. i forgot to mention, lol. it's funny when people try to say that NFL players aren't "in shape". the way you train for football is completely different than you would for soccer/rugby. Football plays last like 15 seconds tops, so the workouts are designed for short term intensity, followed by rest. football players are by no means endurance athletes, so yeah, a football player is probably going to have a soccer player run in circles around him (past 15-30 seconds). but in short term bursts, the football player will obviously win every time.
 
Yeah what ever it may be foot ball is watched by millions round the world..US should not have lose the bid..
 
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