Thankfully we lost the world cup to Qatar
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It's been a slow decline, trying to make it a more offensive league. There is this perception that people want to see points and these rule changes will make the league more palatable to a broader audience. I think that's complete bullshit. While I appreciate skill positions and offense in general, smash mouth defense is what makes it really worth watching IMO.
And all the fines this year under the banner of player safety have been ridiculous. Unevenly enforced and a horrible system for handing them out. There needs to be some kind of process that goes into determining the fines, instead of it being on the whim of league dictator Goodell. Like a board of players, coaches, owners or something that make the calls and serve as a conduit for appeals. Right now if a player wants to appeal, they have to take it to Goodell. That's kind of like appealing a speeding ticket to the cop who gave it to you.
A few things:
Whoever said soccer is more technical than american football has no fucking idea what they are talking about. Seriously.
secondly, to brag about how much more intense rugby is and that nfl players wouldn't stand a chance playing it is retarded. Truthfully, you're right. You know why? Because Rugby is a sport for fucking PSYCHOS with no regard for their body. Who the fuck cares if you play with no pads or on offense and defense. Its such a ridiculously unsafe sport I'm fine with accepting that nfl players wouldn't do it. They already have enough issues with pads and injuries, you take the pads away and dudes will die, straight up.
To claim that its more "manly" is blind, fake testosterone bullshit.
On another note; people saying that NFL players diets are coke and hotdogs, cmon. Don't be ridiculous.
Whoever said soccer is more technical than american football has no fucking idea what they are talking about. Seriously.
secondly, to brag about how much more intense rugby is and that nfl players wouldn't stand a chance playing it is retarded. Truthfully, you're right. You know why? Because Rugby is a sport for fucking PSYCHOS with no regard for their body. Who the fuck cares if you play with no pads or on offense and defense. Its such a ridiculously unsafe sport I'm fine with accepting that nfl players wouldn't do it. They already have enough issues with pads and injuries, you take the pads away and dudes will die, straight up.
To claim that its more "manly" is blind, fake testosterone bullshit.
On another note; people saying that NFL players diets are coke and hotdogs, cmon. Don't be ridiculous.
I think Americans would love football if every goal was counted as like 10 points.
Even football fans dont like it when players dive. It's pretty retarded, but it doesn't happen that often. You've probably seen youtube clips of people diving and assume it's every match. But if there is contact and they fall, it's a free kick. That's just tactics. Saying that footballers are pussies because they fall is like calling Roger Federer a cunt bucket because he doesn't throw his racket at Nadal every point.
How would you propose this? NFL players playing rugby with real rugby rules and clothing? Or rugby players playing NFL rules with NFL clothing? Either way, rugby players will come out on top. I can't see NFL players running around for longer than 15 seconds without taking a breather, or playing both offence and defence.
Even football fans dont like it when players dive. It's pretty retarded, but it doesn't happen that often. You've probably seen youtube clips of people diving and assume it's every match. But if there is contact and they fall, it's a free kick. That's just tactics. Saying that footballers are pussies because they fall is like calling Roger Federer a cunt bucket because he doesn't throw his racket at Nadal every point.
jeffrey said:
How would you propose this? NFL players playing rugby with real rugby rules and clothing? Or rugby players playing NFL rules with NFL clothing? Either way, rugby players will come out on top. I can't see NFL players running around for longer than 15 seconds without taking a breather, or playing both offence and defence.
I mean don't get me wrong, I like seeing teams score points and offensive displays but I'd have to agree that smash mouth defense and bruising physical games are the best. Those games are what football was intended for and this pass-happy nfl is beginning to bore me. That's why I love watching the steelers-ravens game. Both teams hate each other, talk shit, and back it up by smashing the opponents face into the ground.
Regardless if I am a Steelers fan you have to admit some of the fines have been absurd. Not to mention the fact that Roethlisberger was intentionally injured by two Bills players. The league's double standard is getting too obvious. If that was Manning, Brady, or Brees, those two Bills Players would've been fined and suspended. It's bullshit nowadays. The No fun league is almost as bad as the NBA.
I agree, it's largely cultural. I grew up with it, as you have with american football.
I am an avid football fan, but I don't desrespect american football. I know the basic rules and some of its concepts and I think I could even and like it and discuss, IF the sport would be broadcasted more openly where I live (south Europe) and talked about (shows about it). Then again, football here is king.
To say that football is boring because a game can end 0-0, it's absurd, but the problem is you don't even realize it (not directed to you).
But I simply can't comprehend how can americans despise a sport they don't know fully. Seriously, there's much more about football than most americans think. The tactical and psychological aspects are very important.
There was an american expert in advertising/branding here talking about football (you call it soccer) and he was AMAZED how we didn't have/needs cheerleaders and singers in major competitions (like the World Cup) like some american sports have. Football, the game itself and how it's played, it's the true show, which I applaud and support.
Ok, I was teasing about the cokes and hotdogs, but you know what? I played Rugby and Football in highschool and I can tell you that I was a lot more fatigued when playing rugby because it was a harder sport to play, however I was a lot more hurt in Football BECAUSE of the equipment.
When you're playing Rugby, and someone tackles you, it's body on body. That's not always the case in Football. You can take a helmet to the knee which HURTS. You can have someone drill you in the lower back where the equipment doesn't cover, etc etc....In my other post, I pretty much said that you cant just take football players and have them play against rugby players because the sports are different, rules are different, etc...
My biggest turn off to the sport of football in general is that the players are for the most part dedicated to one aspect of the game. It's the only sport I can think of (and please enlighten me otherwise) where an Offensive player does not have to play defence and vice versa. The odd exception is during a turnover, where 9/10 times both teams look lost.
I played both rugby and football too and I'd agree with you that rugby was more exhausting but I'd disagree to say that it was because of the equipment. I do understand where you are coming from but I'd be hard pressed to say it's entirely the equipment. Football players are massive now and just about every game I got blasted by a 6'4 280 lb lineman (I played QB).
After a rugby game I just felt tired and needed to rest it off but with football I had to get an ice bath, constantly keep my feet wrapped in an ice pack, and had more cuts and bruises then the body should have.
I guess I did make a bad analogy between rugby and football now that I think about it. I can't say that either is more physical though because they are each more physical then the other in a different way. However, it doesn't take away from the fact that in soccer most of the players are pussies and will fake an injury to get an opponent a yellow or red card.
Dude, it's the equipment. I played against some pretty big guys in rugby as well. Not Football Player big but close...its the fucking helmets and shoulder pads that are hurting you...i was constantly getting cut by the bolts on facemasks...that wouldnt happen in rugby..football is harder hitting for sure, and couple that with an 'Equipped body part hitting a non-equipped body part' makes it even worse. The saving grace is that the whistle blows, play stops, players get swapped in and out, possesion changes hands and a new squad comes in, etc..
In Rugby, the play goes on...you gotta keep going...if you lose position, it doesnt matter if you're banged up...you gotta get the fuck back up and start defending.
I see your point. I'm coming from a different style of football though.If I got hit it kinda felt like rugby cause I had to quick get up, often hobbling, and get the next play going. My high school head coach used to have an assistant use a stopwatch and time in between plays. If the time hit 12 seconds we had to do 10 pushups and if the time hit 20 seconds or more we had to do the amount of seconds in pushups. Those facemasks do fucking hurt though. One gave me a nasty gash across my forearm.
Soccer is popular in other countries because the equipment costs are so low, making it accessible. 22 poor people can pool their money from a week's worth of peddling "rare beads" and buy a soccer ball. Find a big open area and you have a game.
I'd consider giving soccer a chance if they cut the field (sorry, "pitch") size in half. As was mentioned by someone above, there's nothing like watching 22 people run around for an hour and a half to have nothing at all happen.
To those that say Rugby players would kick the shit out of NFL players...
I'd match up any group of NFL wide receivers, that average around 6' 220lbs, to rugby players any day. In college, the people on the rugby team were those that couldn't make the football team.
I'd consider giving soccer a chance if they cut the field (sorry, "pitch") size in half. As was mentioned by someone above, there's nothing like watching 22 people run around for an hour and a half to have nothing at all happen.
To those that say Rugby players would kick the shit out of NFL players...
I'd match up any group of NFL wide receivers, that average around 6' 220lbs, to rugby players any day. In college, the people on the rugby team were those that couldn't make the football team.
Not even need to buy a soccer ball lol... I lived in Africa for a while and kids in poor neighborhoods make up their own balls with a plastic bag stuffed with shit like old newspapers. Soccer is fun because it's the people's game. That's one of the reasons why I love this sport, it's accessible, open and anyone can play. Plus when you see people playing soccer on the streets, they're always smiling and having fun. I don't get that vibe with American sports, where competition sometimes take over the fun.
I do love all sports too though... except fucking baseball that bores me to death.
THIS.
Just a couple random playbooks. The NFL isn't technical at all, lol.
Defense Playbook Example: http://fastandfuriousfootball.com/prodefense/2003_Atlanta_Falcons_Defense.pdf
Offense Playbook Example: http://fastandfuriousfootball.com/prooffense/2000 Rams Offense.pdf
I'm pretty sure they are the lowest ranked team to ever host. I don't see how their tiny country can get much better in 12 years. They'll get knocked the fuck out in the first round.
You guys don't get the point...
The FIFA is trying to promote soccer in countries where it's less popular and where there is potential for growth.
They don't pick a host country based on how good they are on the international level. If that was the case they would have picked up England instead of Russia, and the US instead of Qatar.
They are giving the chance to other less known countries to host it (just like they did this year with South Africa). Qatar happens to have shitloads of money and the middle east has shitloads of soccer fans. I personally think FIFA made a smart move.