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Ask Jon about that one, Chuck.


Too bad his stuff's not still around or you'd see what true forum raping and blatent self promotion really looks like.

Paul


Don't need to ask, Paul. What Jon did in the past is his business.

The fact remains: You lurked here and decided to come onto WickedFire with guns a' blazin' and now you're backing out on his invite to come on the radio show. You've also said twice that you were leaving.

Which is it, Guru? You're looking over your taxes and making millions and I'm trying to get some work done so neither of us really have time to get into a stupid argument, I'm sure.

Now either put up or shut up. Accept his invitation or go back to Warrior Forum with your tail between your legs.
 


Ask Jon about that one, Chuck.


Too bad his stuff's not still around or you'd see what true forum raping and blatent self promotion really looks like.

Paul

Are you shitting me?

Someone using my name (Jon sounds unique, I know, but apparently it's a pretty popular name that lots of people have) or their own name went to your forum and promoted WickedFire. Big fucking woop. Did they use an @wickedfire.com email address, or was it something free perhaps? It's not like someone has to go through any sort of extensive security screening process to make a username pretending to be someone else or promote another forum as it's owner.

Wake up already. You keep making yourself look more and more like the ebook idiot guru that we know you are. Try and convince us otherwise already!
 
$1200 a year... thanks, but I'll keep my PR5 blog ad free.

By the way, Adbrite works just like Adsense, its not hard link sales based on Pagerank like TLA. You may actually make less with Adbrite, typically sites with adult content use them as an Adsense alternative.
 
Well, that's what I'm getting at Mr Guru.. The fact that it sounds simple, and great on paper, but in reality it doesn't work. You're claiming someone go this route and they'll make $1200/yr instantly just because of the PageRank? As if that is the only deciding factor that advertisers look at? Get off of your guru crackpipe and look at it from a realistic point of view..

A site with a PR4. Great.

How old is the site?

Old enough to get a PR4, which is usualy a minimum of 3 months and most likely, for the average webmaster who doesn't concentrate on SEO, 6-12 months.

What niche is it in?

You know yourself that that varies.

What type of traffic is it generating a day?

See answer to the previous question

Is it making more than $1200/yr with Adsense?

Obviously not, cause in my example, it was making $24 a year from the same space

There are lots of different variables for a site, and every site is different..

Obviously...

unless you're just referring to the cookie cutter sites you guys sell in 5000 packs for $50. Then maybe I'm wrong because they are all the same damn thing in different colors.

I've never sold cookie cutter sites of ANY kind, so why do you keep grouping me in that category?

But in reality, if a webmaster takes their PR4 site, pulls off their Adsense ads, and replaces it with AdBrite or TLA because they ARE NOT making more than $1200/YEAR from their site/blog, then what do you think the chances are of them selling out their entire inventory at their asking price when no one is going to be impressed with the site?

How do you know that no one is going to be impressed with the site? What's that based on... your assumptions, like the assumptions you have about the warrior forum?

If the site were popular, it would be making more than $1200 a year, and wouldn't need your tips.

I talked about a 120X600px or 160X600 px area of their site, not the whole site. There's still room for more ads, aff links, etc. What are you talking about?

But let's be fair and say alright, the site is popular, a PR4 and they sellout the inventory for TLA at $1200/yr, and tack on Adbrite. My opinion is that they would be losing revenue, not making more.

That's an opinion, not fact.

Adbrite is great and all, but generally speaking, Adsense pays out a hell of a lot more per click than Adbrite does.

I found the same on *some* of my sites, but on others it was a good source of revenue, more than AdSense.

Adding TLA is fine for any site to add extra income, but why would you replace something that has a pretty good reputation for making more than their competitors? If anything, replace Adsense with YPN. But then, it would be going against what you are saying..

You see, that's one of the reasons why I suggested to readers of the post to ask me questions, because if every variable were discussed, I'd need to write an ebook on the subject, which is, well...

So no.. your theory is not realistic for the avg webmaster.

It's an option. It's something to try.

Where did I say that it was the ONLY way?

Sorry. Again, sounds easy as all hell, not time consuming, and simple, but try it on a regular PR4 site, without milking any of your friends or connections to help you, and you'll know what all of the regular people reading your bullshit ebooks go through.

What else do you have for me? Because I can go all night.


Should I put on a pot of coffee?

BTW, where are my ebooks - you know, the ones that warrent me being placed in the group of people you so hate?

Paul
 
Should I put on a pot of coffee?

BTW, where are my ebooks - you know, the ones that warrent me being placed in the group of people you so hate?

Paul

And what is it that you do to make your millions and help out as an admin over at Warrior Forum? If you don't make your own ebook scams, are you one of those douches who make the "review sites" for them as an affiliate and collect the 75% commission? Because that's just as bad as being the author..
 
Andrew, AdBrite doesn't work just like AdSense.

Keep your blog ad free. You'll notice that my post wasn't the ultimate or THE way to do anything. It was an option - something to TRY. The disclaimers should have alerted you to that.

Jeez, this is getting tiring.

And I have no ebook link in my sig to take advantage of all this traffic!

I'm not a very good warrior, am I?

Paul

$1200 a year... thanks, but I'll keep my PR5 blog ad free.

By the way, Adbrite works just like Adsense, its not hard link sales based on Pagerank like TLA. You may actually make less with Adbrite, typically sites with adult content use them as an Adsense alternative.
 
And what is it that you do to make your millions and help out as an admin over at Warrior Forum? If you don't make your own ebook scams, are you one of those douches who make the "review sites" for them as an affiliate and collect the 75% commission? Because that's just as bad as being the author..

Is that the best you can do?

First of all, I'm a moderator. Not the Admin at the WF.

I don't make review sites for aff. commissions and never have.

EDIT: and I don't make millions. Wish I did. But a lot of doctors would be envious...

Paul
 
Paul, I assume you're this guy.
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Can you give example of using Adbrite, TLA to bring in $1200/yr from a PR4 site? I'm trying a less confrontational approach here but your sites are pr3 or pr4 and none of them use the method you describe.
 
Is that the best you can do?

First of all, I'm a moderator. Not the Admin at the WF.

I don't make review sites for aff. commissions and never have.

EDIT: and I don't make millions. Wish I did. But a lot of doctors would be envious...

Paul

Perhaps you should read this awesome new ebook called Day Job Killer. You can use that link and download it for free too. Now you too can make as much as a doctor!

I went over to Warrior Forum a few mins ago, and to my absolute amazement, there was the author of this revolutionary new ebook packed with super secret information posting over there, and guess what else, the members there were going nuts about it and sucking up to him and to his amazing new product at the same time!

What a lovely forum it is by the way.. packed with so much good information. You guys cover topics like... how to make an ebook and get everyone else on the forum to market it and buy into it as well. But then there are other articles and tools (that you have to pay for, but turn out to be other ebooks that the admins at Warrior Forum swear is legitimate) for those that have failed, and "helps" (for the fee of yet another ebook) with some puff piece "report" or article. The circle never ends over there.

So really, what do you do over at Warrior Forum?
 
Yes, dekalog6. Congrats on being the first to google me and post something concrete!

I currently have a couple of PR6, a few PR5 and several PR4's and 3's. I have some new ones that are PR0 as well. You won't find them all listed at the company site or even on that server. I have 3 servers at different hosts.

I won't list sites here because I don't want to be accused of self promotion, but the reason I don't have adbrite or TLA on the sites you see is because of the "better yet" part in my sillyassed post where I talk about selling the text links yourself to bypass the broker fees.

I looked at TLA and adbrite and sold the links myself instead. That's a choice, but from the interactions I've had with both companies and reviews I've read, they may be great options for others. A lot of respected bloggers and IM people use them whom I respect and I'd personally recommend both.

Paul

Paul, I assume you're this guy.
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Can you give example of using Adbrite, TLA to bring in $1200/yr from a PR4 site? I'm trying a less confrontational approach here but your sites are pr3 or pr4 and none of them use the method you describe.
 
Paul, I assume you're this guy.
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Can you give example of using Adbrite, TLA to bring in $1200/yr from a PR4 site? I'm trying a less confrontational approach here but your sites are pr3 or pr4 and none of them use the method you describe.

This is probably my favorite of his sites.

Digital Camera News & Reviews | Digitalcameraspy.com

Only three posts on a WP blog with a crappy theme, with the "Hello World! post" not only still up, but still on the home page!

Now I realize that everyone has projects in the works, but why would you link to something so unfinished from your "company"'s site?

Niiiiiiiice, Paul. Can you teach us how to do that too?
 
Well well..

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Paul started out online in 1996 publishing a motivational and self-help email newsletter.

So you didn't make an ebook, but you did make a motivational and self-help email newsletter. What did you upsell on those newsletters? Ebooks to teach people how to make billions when you yourself had just got started on the internets?

Did the whole motivational/self-help crap help you land a gig as a moderator at Warrior Forum?

Being a moderator there, you must have to sift through a ton of ebook shit, since that seems to be the topic of conversation there 98% of the time. Do you feel left out that you haven't made an ebook or a limited copies ebook yet? Are you working on that now?

Why don't the sites in your network use the methods you just said you use or give advice to others swearing it works? I mean, have you tried them even? Or are you just playing Guru man now and trying to put us in our place by giving out advice about things you seem to have zero experience in. You should write an ebook on that post you made, I bet you can make it into 50 pages with lots of examples and screen shots from other people's ClickBank affiliate revenue reports. Especially using the "I'm a Mod at Warrior Forum" -- it can explode your sales. Why? Because people know, that Warrior Forum = ebook author haven of "gurus". It builds that instant, quick trust you need for them to buy it.
 
Jon, I'm one of many moderators there. I don't pass opinions on the books or whatever...

I just try to help keep the place somewhat clean and be as objective as possible.

Another EDIT: BTW, no matter your opinions of a product or whether the page is in google or not, it's kind of scummy to link to it.

Shows a little about your character...

Paul

Perhaps you should read this awesome new ebook called Day Job Killer. You can use that link and download it for free too. Now you too can make as much as a doctor!

I went over to Warrior Forum a few mins ago, and to my absolute amazement, there was the author of this revolutionary new ebook packed with super secret information posting over there, and guess what else, the members there were going nuts about it and sucking up to him and to his amazing new product at the same time!

What a lovely forum it is by the way.. packed with so much good information. You guys cover topics like... how to make an ebook and get everyone else on the forum to market it and buy into it as well. But then there are other articles and tools (that you have to pay for, but turn out to be other ebooks that the admins at Warrior Forum swear is legitimate) for those that have failed, and "helps" (for the fee of yet another ebook) with some puff piece "report" or article. The circle never ends over there.

So really, what do you do over at Warrior Forum?
 
Yes, dekalog6. Congrats on being the first to google me and post something concrete!

I currently have a couple of PR6, a few PR5 and several PR4's and 3's. I have some new ones that are PR0 as well. You won't find them all listed at the company site or even on that server. I have 3 servers at different hosts.

I won't list sites here because I don't want to be accused of self promotion, but the reason I don't have adbrite or TLA on the sites you see is because of the "better yet" part in my sillyassed post where I talk about selling the text links yourself to bypass the broker fees.

Paul

Oh don't worry about self promotion, post what you have. As an Admin here I am giving you full diplomatic immunity, so back up your claims so we can move on to all of the other goodies of having a mod from the Warrior Forum here to grace us with his guru presence.
 
I've never claimed to be a guru. To be honest, I don't like the word.

Someone in this thread called me that and apparently, it stuck.

Paul

Oh don't worry about self promotion, post what you have. As an Admin here I am giving you full diplomatic immunity, so back up your claims so we can move on to all of the other goodies of having a mod from the Warrior Forum here to grace us with his guru presence.
 
I've never claimed to be a guru. To be honest, I don't like the word.

Someone in this thread called me that and apparently, it stuck.

Paul

Here's one of your sites that you are selling advertising on..

gadgetizer.com/advertise/

The site itself is a WP RSS fed content site, kinda like the one my partner made over at ucrave.com.

Those are some pretty impressive ad rates you are charging.. but wait, what's that on the side.. no, it couldn't be.. IT IS!!

Google Adsense banner right on the side. Wait a minute Paul! Where are those Adbrite ads and the TLA links you swore could make a lot more than just sticking with Adsense?! I mean, a tech/gadget site is a pretty popular niche, surely you should have no trouble selling lots of links and your own advertising on such a huge PR5 site. It's not like you have to focus your time and energy on writing the content since it's all RSS'ed in and updated automatically for you.

Care to explain now?

Perhaps you should get that pot of coffee going.. This may be a while.
 
No, that site is not RSS fed. There is no feeder software associated with that site at all, at least up to the point where I sold it. See here --> Gadgetizer.com Acquired by Bloggy Network

Keep digging, Jon.

BTW, feel free to edit or delete this crap at any time to make yourslef look good.

Paul

Here's one of your sites that you are selling advertising on..

gadgetizer.com/advertise/

The site itself is a WP RSS fed content site, kinda like the one my partner made over at ucrave.com.

Those are some pretty impressive ad rates you are charging.. but wait, what's that on the side.. no, it couldn't be.. IT IS!!

Google Adsense banner right on the side. Wait a minute Paul! Where are those Adbrite ads and the TLA links you swore could make a lot more than just sticking with Adsense?! I mean, a tech/gadget site is a pretty popular niche, surely you should have no trouble selling lots of links and your own advertising on such a huge PR5 site. It's not like you have to focus your time and energy on writing the content since it's all RSS'ed in and updated automatically for you.

Care to explain now?

Perhaps you should get that pot of coffee going.. This may be a while.
 
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Jon, I'm one of many moderators there. I don't pass opinions on the books or whatever...

I just try to help keep the place somewhat clean and be as objective as possible.

Another EDIT: BTW, no matter your opinions of a product or whether the page is in google or not, it's kind of scummy to link to it.

Shows a little about your character...

Paul

So you're going to argue the ethics of that ebook now?

I guess what you're saying is that it's not scummy to charge $97 for something that is just a copy of everything on real forums (Warrior Forum is not a REAL webmaster forum, it's a festering sore that makes internet marketing look scammy), but that it IS scummy to show people how full of shit ebooks like this are? Yes, I understand your logic perfectly. Makes complete sense. Thank you for opening my eyes and allowing me to see the light.

I have to say you sure do make Warrior Forum look great! Not that they need your help to look like a bunch of scammers or anything, but I sure am glad you found us to help clear up some of these "myths" and "rumors" we had about you guys.
 
No, that site is not RSS fed. A guy named Tiago Gaspar writes there. There is no feeder software associated with that site at all, at least up to the point where I sold it. See here --> Gadgetizer.com Acquired by Bloggy Network

Keep digging, Jon.

BTW, feel free to edit or delete this crap at any time to make yourslef look good.

Paul

If it was sold, and I am such a fool for not knowing that, then why not remove it from your MAIN site?

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I think it's time for an update Mr Short, what do you think?
 
You know those AdSense ads you place in the sidebar of your blogs, the 120X600 or 160X600 ones?

Yeah, those.

Your blog has a Google PR4+ and that 160X600 space makes you an average of $2 a month or $24 a year.

Why the F* would you settle for that?

Paul

Holy SHIT, this little bit of information has just proved to me that you are a complete fucking newbie when it comes to making money while blogging, I mean seriously I feel sorry for all the people using Warrior forums, because if your a moderator you must know what your talking about right.

Oh my god $24 dollars a year, thats top dollar why would we settle for that, now you've fucking pissed me off, you have got to be the biggest dumbass if you can only make $24 dollars a year with a blog, look at these current stats of one of my newest blogs.

1) Been online for 2 weeks.
2) Earns $5 bucks per day, everyday, 7 days a week.
3) PR0............YUP PAGE RANK OF 0

hmm lets see 2 + 2 = 4 so if I earn $5 bucks per day 7 days a week, there are 365 days in a year, so 5 x 365 = $1825 per year.

Oh gosh I'm going to be so rich off my newest venture that I haven't even begun to do anything with.

Guess what that's my current adsence revenue, it took me a whole hour to set it up and it takes me a whole 5 minutes per day to update.

So do I need to get rid of my adsence so I can make $1200 per year with something else, oh thats right I already make $1825 per year and its only been online for 2 weeks.

I'm not saying these stats are great and I'm not saying I'm going to make millions but I am saying that if you can only make $24 bucks per year with adsence on a blog or website then your fucked.

Seriously I'll buy you the gun and bullets to shoot yourself with now because my five year old cousin can make more then that per year. Where the fuck do you pull these stats from buddy?
 
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